Menopause Matters Forum
Menopause Discussion => Personal Experiences => Topic started by: MIS71MUM on June 03, 2016, 03:27:28 PM
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Hello
I hope you don't mind me venting but all alone and having an awful day.
Been crying since I woke up at 8 and still at it. Over the last week I changed the time I take my AD's to evening instead of am. I was noticing some numbness so wanted this to happen while I was asleep. Now I've decided to change to morning again so didn't take it last night and was hoping to take this morning. Anyway last night I had some horrible nightmares which scared me so came downstairs and took my AD at 3.15 am. When I was alone this morning, I scared myself thinking that the AD's were ruining my life and I'd never be off them.
So all day been very down and worried that I will never come out of the other side of this. I can't help thinking that this time last year I was anxious and depressed but I was coping and I had energy. I feel like life is passing me by at 44! What's not helping is that now I have increased my AD's, I feel like a spider trapped in a glass...like life's going on but I'm not experiencing it.
So my thoughts are; are my AD's making me worse? is this peri? Or am I depressed?
I have everything I want in life....it's not perfect don't have a lot of money but have been blessed with 2 lovely children and a good husbsnd. I did tell my husband to leave me earlier and find himself a decent wife.
Maybe I need to work on my acceptance of this peri. But also can't help but thinking the side effects of the AD's make me flat and down.
Sorry to offload.
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Oh Mis71Mum! You poor thing! I hate that feeling. I don't really have experience with AD, but it certainly sounds like peri/depression. I'm not sure there's any way or reason to differentiate between peri and depression. I was certainly anxious and depressed, and fortunately for me, apparently treating my low hormones was the trick. So that leaves you with how to treat yourself. Were your AD working until you played with the time of dosing? If so, then I'd guess that's the ticket. If not, then you probably need to ask about changing the dose or medication of your AD. Then of course there's the hormones. I can't remember if you're doing hrt. I guess the question is what's changed?
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Mis71 mum , I know we. Have messaged /posted. Before, but I want to say again for many you and I included the peri/menopause can be a horrible all encompassing experience physically and mentally. I hate. Saying it but my lifes in pieces since this started. 6 years ago. Aged 44 .i love the positive posts the ladies give each other via hrt and ad s but I have to admit its not been my personal experience. And I'm sure I'm not the only one. I mean this in a positive way in that when hrt /ad dont help everyone with low mood etc you really do need to push your gp fotr talking therapies etc . I'm sure many ladies will r will reply and disagree with me but I'm.speaking from 6 years of trying this that and other and I'm no further on !I mean this I really mean this in a positive way sorry if its confused all I.mean id from my experience. Even though people don't want to hear nit hrt and ad dont cure meno issues for everyone
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Sorry stellajane I just meant I have had a hideous tome and i still am , tjis forum.has kept me going 100 per cent id be dead without it . All I meant ll. Was Drs offer hrt and ad as the answer and its not always the case I wish it were I really do xx
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Very true, walking the dog! I rambled too much, but that was my point in saying there's no way or reason to differentiate. It may be peri causing it, or maybe not. And maybe hrt or adjusting hrt would help. Or maybe adjusting or changing AD, or as you suggested counseling. I got lucky in that the hormones have made a difference, but it doesn't really matter if the cause is peri, depression, or AD side effects when you need relief from the misery of it all.
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Hello
Got my in laws to come round to keep me company. The thing is there is a pattern, usually a few days around 20th, then a few round 2/3rd of the month. But what do I do about it? My HRT regime is evorel sequi 50 but gone from oestrogel as per my new ladies instructions. I sort of feel that I won't get relief until I override my own cycle...or is that my anxiety.
Jan, Feb and March this year were grest but I had 2 periods then too!
I haven't helped matters by increasing, changing times of my AD's.
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If it's cycling like that then it sounds as if it's peri & linked to your hormonal cycle, such as it is. Did you used to get down/tearful at any point in your cycle before peri started? I've found that symptoms I used to get at set points in my cycle now pop up all over the place!
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Hi its horrible feeling like that isnt it :hug:
For the time being can you just try to leave what your taking alone for a couple of weeks. As you say you've just had a change of hrt,you changed the time of your AD ,your body wont be able to settle so you wont know whats what . I know its easier said than done believe me ,been there,but try to persevere for a bit longer at least one whole cycle on your new regime. ;)
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At the moment, mine seems cyclical too. Five days into the progesterone and then the 4th day after finishing the progesterone, I think. I'm great today but kind of expect to be a blubbering mess tomorrow. All I can say is perhaps be glad you know when it's going to hit? I feel like if my dips remain cyclical, at least I know what's coming and can work on finding ways to cope those couple of bad days.
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I suspect it's peri-menopause. Particularly if you can see a 'pattern' of mood changes.
If I miss my AD then I feel a bit weird the next day ::) i.e. muggy headed, but it does help my bowel if it's been a bit slow. I've been on them since the 1980s though.
How are you this evening?
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My in-laws have gone now.
I'm okay and hope that tomorrow's better. When you're in it, it's really hard to see the other side of it. Really considering asking my GP for another AD though, as this doesn't seem to be doing much other than making me feel very flat.
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Its like reading my own feelings mis71mum my heart goes out to you cx
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Sometimes AD dose has to be hiked ::). It isn't a cure. There are various types that ease various symptoms so worth discussing with your GP or a Pharmacist ;)
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Thanks ladies - you really have been there for me tonight and I appreciate that.
Fingers crossed tomorrow will be better x
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Let us know how you get on!
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I have everything I want in life....it's not perfect don't have a lot of money but have been blessed with 2 lovely children and a good husbsnd. I did tell my husband to leave me earlier and find himself a decent wife.
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hello I am late into your thread but I just want to respond to your original comment. depression is to do with chemical or hormonal changes in your brain, and does not always have a bearing on your life or home situation.
There is reactive depression which is connected to an event or a trauma but this is different. I also have a good life, wonderful husband, lovely children and grandchildren but I still need the support of a low dose AD to stabilise my thoughts and feelings. Try not to look at it as an enemy, more as something that is part of you and find the best way to live alongside it for you, which will not be the same as for someone else.
what was your husband's reply?
Keep talking, keep posting.
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Great post BJ, totally agree I am the same - I need my AD to cope with life it seems.
Reading through and having been here on the forum sometime now, one thing I have learnt is how different we all are. What works for some of us will not for others.
For me its the AD, and diet - I now eat very healthy (aside from the day off I had yesterday, but no guilt for that)I love researching what is good food and love to cook it, my kitchen is being re-arranged now to store my new foods and gadgets. I have enjoyed this so much my next plan is to do some nutritionist training, just need to raise the money to do it. I know for me, and the DH an improved diet has proved very helpful.. but I would not dream of suggesting this would be a fix for everyone.
Hope today is a better one for you Mis71Mum.
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Good morning
Slept better last night and feel foggy headed this morning and having crazy hot sweats again but am freezing cold. Still feel full of cold, etc so that's not helping.
I have booked an appointment for Wednesday to discuss either coming off or swapping my AD.
I'm hoping that I am doing the right thing.
Hopefully won't cry today either.
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Forgot to mention, in the last 10 days whilst being on the patches, my BP has gone from 155/100 to 132/90.
My Mum also reminded me that the gyny I saw said I could be like this for 2 years, is that in addition to the 2 I've already been like this?
Babyjane - my husband said "don't be daft". He did go out last night with his mates...so he has got some space from me as I wouldn't want to live with me right now.
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I hope this link might help if you read the perimenopause part http://www.womens-health-advice.com/estrogen.html
Things will get better but I agree with someone on the thread about plotting your cycle and symptoms so you know what to expect. There's nothing worse than feeling ok and then suddenly being thrown into hormonal chaos again!
Peri is a very tricky time for many women due to the brain's response to falling oestrogen (as explained in the link) and ADs may help keep your mood stable but like all of these things it's trial and error finding the right one.
You are (all) handling a really tough time physically and it will all calm down eventually so it's really about managing this crisis time for some of us.
Each day you get through you should give yourself a big pat on the back knowing you're getting closer to things settling.
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My husband is still here, bless him. He deserves a :medal: He is so patient, he just switches off, best thing really. Things are getting a lot better this year, much more stable.
Hang in there all you lovely ladies and your menfolk :hug: