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Menopause Discussion => Other Health Discussion => Topic started by: CLKD on May 22, 2016, 08:50:12 PM

Title: BCG Jab
Post by: CLKD on May 22, 2016, 08:50:12 PM
Does anyone remember having this?  I was 13 …… can't remember what for though  :-\
Title: Re: BCG Jab
Post by: kew on May 22, 2016, 09:42:10 PM
I remember having it - was it for Measles?
Title: Re: BCG Jab
Post by: breeze on May 22, 2016, 09:53:07 PM
BCG was for TB.  I don't think they do it now.
Title: Re: BCG Jab
Post by: Claireylou on May 22, 2016, 09:53:31 PM
I'm sure it was for TB. Blooming hurt too  :o
Title: Re: BCG Jab
Post by: coldethyl on May 22, 2016, 09:57:55 PM
It's for TB. I had it at 18 months as uncle had shadow on lung and then again at 13 at school. It's only routinely offered now to children in high risk areas and communities. Also I think those embarking on certain careers such as nursing, doctors and I imagine vets are innoculated.
Title: Re: BCG Jab
Post by: Taz2 on May 22, 2016, 11:42:32 PM
Yes it was for TB. The new guidelines are here as to who should have it and why teenagers are not routinely inoculated http://www.nhs.uk/conditions/vaccinations/pages/bcg-tb-vaccine-questions-answers.aspx  I paid privately for two of my sons to have it though.

Taz x
Title: Re: BCG Jab
Post by: Ju Ju on May 23, 2016, 02:53:44 AM
I remember you were tested first for whether you had antibodies, which I did, so didn't have the injection.
Title: Re: BCG Jab
Post by: Joyce on May 23, 2016, 11:40:20 AM
I had to get test redone around age 16 as lad in one of my classes contracted TB. I was fine as was he.
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Post by: Scampi on May 23, 2016, 11:46:31 AM
Having seen a BCG given during my days as a student nurse, I'm not surprised it hurt  :o 

I remember so well the weeks (months!!) of having to have my nightie bathed off my arm every morning where my BCG site had wept horrible gunge during the night and got stuck.  Gave up with the 'keep it dry' mantra when on holiday in the August (having had the jab in the May/June!) and got in the swimming pool ... it had healed fully within a week after that!
Title: Re: BCG Jab
Post by: CLKD on May 23, 2016, 12:02:06 PM
I remember the small dot of rings that was put onto the inner arm.  I don't remember why I needed the jab though other than it was related to TB.  I don't remember it hurting but I do remember several friends fainted  :o

Next question: 3 days B4 I get a cold the area where the jab went in itches like FURY  >:(
Title: Re: BCG Jab
Post by: Scampi on May 23, 2016, 12:21:55 PM
BCG immunisation for TB was routine up until 2005.  The 'ring of dots' (often called the 'six needles) is called the Heaf test, and it's very similar to skin sensitively tests for allergies.  The six needles introduce a tiny amount of the TB antigen into the skin and the site is examined a week later to assess the reaction - if you are already immune to TB the site will show marked inflammation, if you're not it will hardly react at all (in some cases it's hard to find the test site).  My Heaf test at school reacted well - so well that the doctor was 50/50 whether to give me the jab - reading up on BCG now, it seems giving the jab to 'strong reactors' often leads to inflammation and scarring at the injection site ... explains a lot!!  When I was tested again when I started nursing, and I had a VERY definite reaction - I still have a scar from those six needles!
Title: Re: BCG Jab
Post by: Ju Ju on May 23, 2016, 12:59:56 PM
I must of had a strong reaction then. In the 80s we were in close contact with my uncle who had a reoccurance of TB and all had chest X-rays. My children had to have the injections in the 90s.
Title: Re: BCG Jab
Post by: Taz2 on May 23, 2016, 01:02:29 PM
One of mine had it routinely at the age of 13 in 1994 but I paid for the other two to have it done as it had been discontinued by then (1998 and 2001)

Taz x
Title: Re: BCG Jab
Post by: Joyce on May 23, 2016, 01:23:31 PM
My daughter had it done just after birth, a fact which I forgot & she got it again at 13.
Title: Re: BCG Jab
Post by: Taz2 on May 23, 2016, 02:13:04 PM
Thirteen year olds are protected for fifteen years. It's never given to adults as it isn't effective. I didn't know that! From NetDoctor:

"The BCG test is thought to be about 80 per cent effective and when given to children around the age of 13 years the immunity lasts around 15 years. Normally a reaction occurs at the site of immunisation and this can vary from quite mild swelling over a very small area to a large area of inflammation and ulceration"

Taz x
Title: Re: BCG Jab
Post by: CLKD on May 23, 2016, 02:48:38 PM
 :thankyou:  Scampi.  I had a slight reaction on the under-side of the arm. 

I didn't ask the question then did I  ::) - does anyone else have a very itchy arm where the jab was given B4 a cold starts?

When I left working in the Hospital in the 1980s TB was 'common' due to the number of foreign students, particularly those from Malaysia ………..
Title: Re: BCG Jab
Post by: breeze on May 23, 2016, 03:09:14 PM
I have a scar from a smallpox jab, when I was 7.  We were due to go on a family holiday to France and there was an out break there at the time, hence the whole family had the injection.

I had a very bad reaction and was ill for 2 weeks.  Doc said it meant I would very likely have  succumbed to smallpox, if I had caught it.

We don't realise how lucky we are these days.  All those diseases that used to be common such as TB, smallpox, polio, diphtheria etc.,
Title: Re: BCG Jab
Post by: CLKD on May 23, 2016, 03:34:41 PM
Some countries insist on those being given B4 allowing entry to visitors.
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Post by: countrybumpkin on May 23, 2016, 09:12:51 PM
Ohh memory lane!  I remember the heaf test and not reacting at all and having to have the BCG injection. My arm was an awful mess and I still have a hole in it to this day.  As an adult I reacted very badly to tetanus vaccine so me and vaccines are not a good mix, I am too allergic ::)

My son fainted when he had his :)
Title: Re: BCG Jab
Post by: CLKD on May 23, 2016, 09:24:04 PM
R U allergic to eggs Countrybumpkin?
Title: Re: BCG Jab
Post by: Joyce on May 23, 2016, 09:41:50 PM
My son fainted after one of his injections at about 14. Can't remember which one. Went back to his class, felt unwell & teacher told him to go & get some air at which point he collapsed hitting his nose off a desk. Blood everywhere. Ended up going to hospital in an ambulance. He wasn't the only one that year, kids were flaking out all over the place.
Title: Re: BCG Jab
Post by: Cazikins on May 23, 2016, 11:14:23 PM
I was given the big one when I was a baby because my Uncle got TB, so Mum asked the doc to do it.

He did it on my thigh as I had a big strawberry birthmark there, he thought it would cover it up a bit............no it didn't, it's still there. ::)

At 13 years of age I had the six round needle tester & hey ho, I was still immune, oh how glad I was about that.

Cazi xx
Title: Re: BCG Jab
Post by: CLKD on May 24, 2016, 01:14:10 PM
Himself remembers the '6 in 1' but didn't need the injection.  :-\

Does anyone's arm itch at the injection site prior to a cold?
Title: Re: BCG Jab
Post by: Taz2 on May 24, 2016, 06:23:42 PM
I always thought that it gave you protection for life but it only lasts fifteen years.

Taz x
Title: Re: BCG Jab
Post by: CLKD on May 24, 2016, 06:24:57 PM
Isn't that why inoculations on the whole have to be repeated if a person travels to 'certain' countries where the diseases are rife? 
Title: Re: BCG Jab
Post by: Taz2 on May 24, 2016, 06:35:02 PM
Yes I guess so. It's the same as the Polio one I suppose.

Taz x
Title: Re: BCG Jab
Post by: CLKD on May 24, 2016, 06:59:34 PM
Diptheria.  Polio.  Yellow fever.  Thyphoid.  (though I know someone who caught it but had never left England  :o).  Different countries require different jabs …….. another reason not to fly  :D