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Title: upset stomach again!
Post by: robotwars on May 03, 2016, 03:16:06 PM
getting very fed up now! I have taken today off work but I cant keep doing this
seems to be happening every month, I go to bed, cant sleep, stomach starts rumbling and feeling awful, 2am diarrhoea again!
I feel so drained as I have been flooding since Friday due to my period...... now I just feel like I need to go to number 2's but nothing happens....... just feel awful..... such a heavy feeling in the bottom of my stomach.
I have a doctors appointment in 2 weeks but don't know if its worth going or not, last time they said it was due to acid, so to take galvescon advance, I have been taking it now for 2 months but im still suffering,
I'm also on the femseven sequi patches, just feel like im getting nowhere.... patches were suppose to help control periods etc, but still flooding every month...... Aaghhhhh!!!!
sorry just felt like a moan.....
Title: Re: upset stomach again!
Post by: Joyce on May 03, 2016, 03:36:09 PM
I'd still go to GP. You can't go on like that. It may well be hormonal as I've known some ladies who have had diarrhoea problems when their period was due/arrived. My daughter gets occasionally. If it is hormonal that would maybe explain why gaviscon isn't working. 

On the other hand could it be food related. I'm now lactose intolerant. I can get horrid feelings in tummy, can't sleep, restless until the inevitable happens. Once it's passed I'm exhausted, but stomach is settled.
Title: Re: upset stomach again!
Post by: Kathleen on May 03, 2016, 05:57:18 PM
Hello robotwars.

Sorry you are suffering. I am one of those women who had diarrhoea at the beginning of my periods so I wonder if your hormones are causing the sleeplessness and tummy troubles?

I would definitely keep the doctors appointment!

Take care.

K.
Title: Re: upset stomach again!
Post by: CLKD on May 03, 2016, 06:34:18 PM
HORMONES  :beat: :beat: :beat: bugga.  I doubt if it is acid related at all although the gut can be affected!

I remember the feeling that I wanted to pooh because the whole area down there felt swollen and heavy.  But once the runs was over which would begin 10 mins. B4 a bleed, my bowel still seemed to be full.

Your GP should be able to give you something to ease the heavy bleeding.  Tran??? acid?  Do you keep a diary at all?  Might help with something to hand to your GP.  I would send an e-mail B4 the appt., or get an appt. while you are bleeding so that you GP can actually see how you are. Unless, like I was, you can't leave the loo for 2-3 days  :-[.  Certainly a blood test to make sure that you aren't anaemic should be taken. 
Title: Re: upset stomach again!
Post by: robotwars on May 10, 2016, 07:29:23 PM
well my appointment is now on Thursday, today has been a horrible day, stomach felt rough at work so I have been taking Imodium just to get me through! im so fed up with feeling like this, all the Ibs symptoms, heavy feeling in the bottom of my stomach, the nausea that comes over me in waves, reminds me of when I was pregnant, getting up in the night to spend a penny, cant remember the last time I slept all night, dry mouth, night time cough, feeling tired especially late afternoon, aching legs,..... coming on every month, really heavy, the stomach cramps..... are all these symptoms related to peri-menopause? Im already on HRT patches, so surely this should be helping, if it is related to peri-menopause does that mean the patches aren't working or do I need stronger ones, im so confused this is my third visit about this to my Gp and im getting nowhere, last time I was told to take galvescon, as it was all related to access acid, im not sure what to ask for on Thursday but do want to get some answers and try and sort my life out.
Title: Re: upset stomach again!
Post by: CLKD on May 10, 2016, 07:54:21 PM
Could it be that your hormones are over-riding the HRT?

All these symptoms sound similar to what I had pre-menstrually.  HORMONES  >:(. 
Title: Re: upset stomach again!
Post by: Elizabethrose on May 10, 2016, 09:35:11 PM
Hello robotwars

I have always had diarrhoea or a generally upset tummy with my periods, my daughter does to. A GP I once saw had a specialism in hormones and told me that a lot of people are affected in this way by a drop in progesterone. Equally, throughout the luteal phase when progesterone is usually high, I have difficulty going. Pregnancy was a nightmare in that respect and I had to drink the dreaded Fybogel which made me wretch!

Since I've been in late stage peri, and anovulatory much of the time, my bowel habits have changed and my tummy is upset very frequently. I feel sure a lack of progesterone is causing this. I noticed you're on HRT so this may not be relevant to you but I thought i'd mention it just in case.

Hope you feel better soon.
Title: Re: upset stomach again!
Post by: Machair on May 11, 2016, 07:42:26 AM
I have always had bowel symptoms related to hormones. I am also having anovulatory cycles now and have noticed vast differences - some days bowels are calm, and if anything more constipated, then on other days it is the reverse with churning and loose motions. I think it is the dramatic swings in hormones- one day lots of oestrogen, the next a fall, and remember too that falls in oestrogen trigger adrenaline and hot flushes so these events can also trigger more rapid transit times in the gut.
Title: Re: upset stomach again!
Post by: CLKD on May 11, 2016, 09:48:37 AM
Crikey Girls  ;D :   "anovulatory " - that's a very long word for so early in the day  :D
Title: Re: upset stomach again!
Post by: robotwars on May 12, 2016, 05:55:43 PM
Hi Sparkle, yes I have been...... don't seem to get very far, I wrote down all my symptoms so I didn't miss anything, gave him the list and he things I need a different HRT, so he has prescribed me femoston 2/10...... im not sure what to thing as im on femseven patches at the moment.....didn't even come near me, sat his side of the desk and just wrote a prescription.... told me to come again in 6 weeks....
Title: Re: upset stomach again!
Post by: robotwars on May 12, 2016, 08:16:54 PM
I know, my stomach hasn't been great, been taking Imodium to help me get through work! im now worried if I take them it will upset my stomach more, just don't know what to do now or where to turn, as not getting much help from GP, did ask about changing to a new practice but was told at other practice they are not allowed to take patients from our surgery!
Title: Re: upset stomach again!
Post by: dangermouse on May 15, 2016, 08:32:49 AM
It sounds like too much oestrogen so you may need more progesterone in your HRT to compensate or a stronger synthetic oestrogen (like in birth control pills) to take more control of your own oestrogen.

Too much oestrogen causes over stimulation so can make the bowel muscles go into overdrive, the stomach to churn, the eyes to experience travel sickness, ears vertigo etc.

Too high progesterone tends to cause the opposite, slow transit and constipation and some women jump between the two extremes with the fluctuations, especially in perimenopause.
Title: Re: upset stomach again!
Post by: robotwars on May 15, 2016, 03:55:22 PM
Thanks Dangermouse! having a rubbish day today.... on patch 2 of the femseven patches and just feel like im going to have upset stomach but nothing happening, feels awful, plus pains in bottom of stomach, drinking peppermint tea, had galvescon, just taken some paracetomal to see if it helps the pain...... just not sure what to do...... im wondering whether it might be an idea to stop HRT and see how my stomach is or do I take the femoston, trouble is its stronger oestrogen, so if im having too much now its going to get worse isn't it????? Aarghhhhhh so confused...... wish their was a walk in clinic where you could go for help that specialise in this...
Title: Re: upset stomach again!
Post by: robotwars on May 18, 2016, 05:02:31 PM
OMG! What is going on with my stomach! went to bed at 10pm woke up at 12.30 with terrible stomach cramps and feeling very hot, then 2 hours later had diarrhoea, so took some Imodium, then freezing cold, had no sleep had to go to work as I have already had time off 2 weeks ago for my stomach, then at 10.30am the stomach cramps start at the top of my stomach, could nt even stand up straight, they eventually passed then decided I should eat something and now stomach cramps are back, so fed up with this...................does anyone know if I wanted a private referral for this, who I would ask for, as I have been to my GP 3 times now and he just says its peri-menopause...... just feel like screaming, I have had no tests or investigations, hasn't even felt my stomach...........
Title: Re: upset stomach again!
Post by: robotwars on May 18, 2016, 06:28:22 PM
Hi Sparkle, I used to get the odd bout, once every 6 months or so, but over the last few months its got worse, I have had 3 attacks in the last 2 weeks!! I have been trying different HRT's for a year and a half now!! Im wondering about writing to my GP as I cant get another appointment for 6 weeks!!!!!!!!!!!!! the other doctor I saw said it was access acid!!!!!!!!!! I have tried keeping a food diary but im now just avoiding so many foods, for example cheese, apples, skins on vegetables, wholemeal bread, anything spicy, no greasy food, but im running out of foods that don't cause me any problems, now wondering if it is the food!!
Title: Re: upset stomach again!
Post by: Evelyn63 on May 22, 2016, 07:59:06 PM
Robot wars sounds like it could be gall bladder related, have you tried Buscopan for the cramps? Its an anti spasmodic and works on relaxing the smooth muscle of the bowel. I suffer from IBS and its the one medication that seems to help.  You can get it in any pharmacy, there are two different ones, make sure you get the one specifically for cramps and see if there is any improvement.  I think it might be worth looking at some of the private clinics in your area, and check out the gastroenterologists . You can then email the clinic and request an appointment.  It could also be a virus you have picked up, which needs eliminated from your system before you start to feel better.  This means no immodium as that prevents the bug being expelled and it just builds up in your system .  I sincerely hope you start to feel better soon, its so debilitating.
Title: Re: upset stomach again!
Post by: Taz2 on May 23, 2016, 09:18:23 AM
I agree with Evelyn Robotwars that immodium is not always good as a first response. If there is a bug somewhere in your system then it prevents the body from expelling it and causes more problems. I use Buscopan at the first sign of the bowel getting "grumbly" and it does work fairly well.

I know how you feel though. Just want to say that being woken for a bowel movement is not considered typical of IBS but more of a food intolerance or a bug. This is the one symptom that defines the difference between IBS and other bowel conditions such as intolerance, allergy and IBD. I have had IBS symptoms for fifty years (started when I was twelve) but mine changed to night time problems and this is why I kept a food diary for a while to try to find the trigger. Peas is a big one! Also, anything with soya in it. Soya is a known allergen. You would be surprised at how many things contain soya from bread to gravy granules. Ice-cream is also a no-no nowadays but that's only been since I had a long course of antibiotics.

Have you mentioned to the doc that you are being woken by the need to empty your bowels? You should really be listened to on this one.

Taz x
Title: Re: upset stomach again!
Post by: robotwars on May 23, 2016, 08:55:09 PM
Thanks for your replies...... I have mentioned it to the doctors twice now, first time lady doctor said it was access acid, 2nd time a male doctor said he thinks I need to change my HRT, he thinks I need to change to a stronger one, so wants me to change from my patches to pill form, which im not sure about as I like the patches as it doesn't go through your liver, which I thought was better for the stomach! my husband thinks I should stop HRT for a few months and see if stomach settles... im just confused.
I don't think its a bug as its been going on for months now, and seems to be happening at the same time each month, it always happens during the 2 weeks of the oestrogen patches, my best week of the month is when I put the first progesterone patch on... not sure if its a coincidence or not!

I have been and bought some buscopan so will try that.
I have private health care with my hubbys' work, he thinks I should get a referral just not sure where too and whether it would do any good........
I have been watching my diet, just having plain food, nothing spicy or fatty, living on plain cod loins, plain coucous etc, keeping it simple.....
Title: Re: upset stomach again!
Post by: robotwars on May 25, 2016, 05:15:16 PM
I'm not sure, stomach hasn't been rumbling as much and no bowel problems.... but im on my first progesterone patch and that usually a good week......
Title: Re: upset stomach again!
Post by: dangermouse on May 27, 2016, 04:04:41 PM
Can you not have a lower oestrogen patch or continuous progesterone?
Title: Re: upset stomach again!
Post by: robotwars on May 30, 2016, 08:51:52 AM
well just for a quick update, I have stuck to a plain diet for two weeks, been on the progesterone patches and also stopped my multi vitamin pills and galvescon and so far stomach has not been too bad, a few rumblings but no stomach cramps or diarohea. should have came on on Friday but still nothing.
Dancing girl - The doctor wants me to start femoston 2/10 now I have finished the month but so unsure if I want to take pills again, i like the patches as it doesn't go through your liver..... I asked about higher patches but he wants me to try this first.... he thinks I need more oestrogen.... so confused.........