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General Discussion => This 'n' That => Topic started by: toffeecushion on January 02, 2016, 07:30:53 AM
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I'm starting Weight Watchers today, want to leave 5 stone. Anyone else starting a diet and wants support?
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Good luck toffeecushion. I lost 1.5 stones with WeightWatchers. I used the recipe book for tasty meals for the whole family. I used to print it out, stick it in a Jamie Oliver cook book and my family came to their own conclusions as to what they were eating for tea ;)
I'll be back on the plan as if Monday, to get rid of the Christmas pounds.
I'll keep you company with your eating/exercise plan :)
Galadriel x
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I used the recipe book for tasty meals for the whole family. I used to print it out, stick it in a Jamie Oliver cook book and my family came to their own conclusions as to what they were eating for tea ;)
What a good idea.
I've started well. Didn't realise how big a portion of muesli I was having every morning until I weighed it this morning. Even been for a 3 mile walk this morning :). Have a good day
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I used the recipe book for tasty meals for the whole family. I used to print it out, stick it in a Jamie Oliver cook book and my family came to their own conclusions as to what they were eating for tea ;)
Good idea! Wonder if that would work with my Mum? Really struggling to get her to eat healthy meals. She refuses a lot of stuff which means I am also eating less healthily than I would like as I can't cook two separate meals per day.
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Really struggling to get her to eat healthy meals. She refuses a lot of stuff which means I am also eating less healthily than I would like as I can't cook two separate meals per day.
It must be difficult Dorothy, I know it sounds harsh but why not just provide healthy stuff. Don't give her the option of non healthy things. Perhaps, she refuses it now because she knows she'll get her own way, you will cook her what she wants. I don't envy you, it can't be easy.
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Good luck toffee cushion. I need to do something too. I lost nearly 2 stones with slimming world a couple of years ago but it took forever and progress was painfully slow. It's all back on now plus some. :'(
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Dorothy, it's hard but I'm with Limpy. Oh and you could try my trick at the same time ;)
I was amazed too, when I poured out my usual bowl of cereal and then weighed it! Almost a double portion. Now I weigh my pasta and potato portions. I have a set of scales that makes it easy to weigh each food as it goes on my plate.
Well done on the good start. Are you going to meetings or doing it on line?
Galadriel x
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Really struggling to get her to eat healthy meals. She refuses a lot of stuff which means I am also eating less healthily than I would like as I can't cook two separate meals per day.
It must be difficult Dorothy, I know it sounds harsh but why not just provide healthy stuff. Don't give her the option of non healthy things. Perhaps, she refuses it now because she knows she'll get her own way, you will cook her what she wants. I don't envy you, it can't be easy.
It's difficult because I'm living in her house. If she doesn't get what she wants she becomes very aggressive, screaming and shouting and slamming doors, so mostly I just give in. I grate a lot of vegetables into sauces, so she is getting a little veg that way but if a meal looks too 'healthy' she won't eat it and fills up on crisps and chocolate instead!
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I'm doing it online. Think the time is right for me, I feel strangely positive about it.
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My M in L weighed her daily allowance onto saucers each evening for the following day. Once each saucer was empty that was it for the day! She kept the weight off too.
As for your Mum Dorothy - are there other 'problems' ……… would she cook with you?
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I did it on line too Toffeecushion. I stuck to my daily allowance through the week and used the extras at the weekend. If I needed more points, I earned them with more exercise.
Omg Dorothy :o You have your work cut out for you :hug:
Galadriel x
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As for your Mum Dorothy - are there other 'problems' ……… would she cook with you?
Nope! Have tried this. If I am ever too ill to cook, she snacks on junk food while I starve until I'm fit enough to get back in the kitchen!
I did get away tonight with reducing the amount of butter in a very rich dish and then swapping part of it with a low-fat substitute. I'll keep experimenting until I find the maximum I can reduce it by without her finding out!
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I started WW in November which was a totally stupid time to start with Christmas and all, but I have managed to lose about 3kg (not sure what that is in pounds/stones). It's been a bit up and down lately with all the socialising I've been doing, but I'm trying to get back on the straight and narrow now. I've even started doing 2 x 30 minute walks most days, instead of just one. How dedicated am I ...lol... Hopefully I'll reach my first goal of 10kg off by mid year.
Just a heads up - WW is changing their whole program. They are going from "Pro-Points" to "Smart-Points" and the point values for some foods have changed. They brought the change in for existing members a month ago and will be doing a public campaign this month some time.
The reason for the change is that they are concentrating more on "sugars" as opposed to general carbs, and "saturated fat" as opposed to general fats. That's why some of the point values have changed. They say they haven't made the change just for the sake of it because it costs them so much to make these changes. It seems to be a better way of doing things.
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Dorothy - how old is your Mum, does she have health problems, maybe it's loss of control over what she would like to eat and what she knows she ought to be eating ::)
I was thinking as I went to bed - mine is 89 and eats well. She has a milky coffee at 6.30 a.m. then begins with a good breakfast of fresh orange juice, an actimel-type drink, flakes/bran. She apparently eats her main meal at 12.30 which is a Wiltshire Farm take-it-from-the-freezer and microwave it. She does prefer 'sweets' though and at her age, whose to argue.
On C.mas night after a very good lunch, around 6.30 she had: a plate of cold meat, a slab of cold bread sauce :sick02:, cold sprouts followed by a slab of C.mas pudding: then a 'Go' …………. by which time my tummy was rebelling but she did survive!
We've found that current 'Go' products hit the spot. They do various types including fruity ones would it be worth a try ?
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Mum is 74, but she has had issues for years - it wasn't so bad when my Dad was alive, as she respected him so didn't mess him around the way she does me, but she doesn't see why she should listen to a daughter. I think she has a mental illness of some kind, but it has never been diagnosed. She claims to have a lot of illnesses, but they are all ones that don't present visible symptoms so could be faked (NB: I am not saying the illnesses are not real, only that it is quite easy to pretend you have them when you don't) - ME, IBS, allergies... I am sceptical since they only appear when she is trying to get her own way. So she will talk in a really croaky voice to prove she is 'allergic' to broccoli, and as soon as I agree that broccoli is off the menu, her voice goes back to normal. Likewise the ME 'exhaustion' can come and go in minutes depending on whether or not she has what she wants!
I've tried to reduce the amount of crisps, chocolate, cheddar etc that she eats or replace cakes and biscuits with healthier snacks but she won't accept them. Or if she does, she eats them AS WELL AS the unhealthy options, so she just ends up eating more! My only option is to try making the main meal as healthy as I can, but it's an uphill battle. Currently, she is arguing for me to put more salt in when I'm cooking - I point out that the food is already as salty as I can bear to eat and she can always add more to her own serving. But apparently, that's not good enough, as the salt doesn't go all the way through then, as it does with cooking... ::)
I made a chocolate cake a while back that has kidney beans in it. She absolutely loved it until she found out it had kidney beans in it; then she wouldn't eat any more because she said it had a 'nasty texture'. >:(
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She's running you around by the sound of things. How is she should you 'agree' with letting her eat exactly as she wants to? She has lost her sparring partner i.e. your Dad; so now you are in the firing line.
Have you talked with a dietician to see what exactly is 'bad' for your Mum? At 74 is it worth the hassle for you?
As for more salt in the cooking, then it's 2 pots - 1 with your greens in with the salt you like and a 2nd pot that your Mum can salt herself ;-). what happens to your Mum over-all if she eats 'crap'? OH! a spider has run across the floor it's alright, I'm OK ;D ……….
Let us know what she will eat ………… good or bad ;-)
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Before I moved in, she was living on cheese, crisps, sweets, chocolate, biscuits, cakes, icecream & pizza! With an occasional ready meal (the really cheap kind where all the salt, sugar and fat traffic lights are red) So I don't feel I need to see a dietician to discuss whether or not her preferred diet is 'healthy' or not!!! Oh, and she would have 6 'medicinal' sprouts once a week, so she could tell people she ate 'lots' of greens ::) She had a heart attack a number of years ago, so is supposed to watch fatty food etc, but wont do it.
In one way it's not worth the hassle. In another way, I know if I leave her to her own culinary devices, she will be dead within a year... So not bothering would feel a bit like signing her death warrant!
She is obsessive about the amount of kitchen equipment used, so cooking two lots of anything is not on - also obsessive about water use - I know it sounds crazy, but you have no idea of the level of control she likes...I even have to hang the mugs on the mug hooks in the right order, and it's like WW3 has started if I get them in the wrong order :o .
As to what happens if she eats junk food, she feels really ill, but never admits that is the cause - e.g. after eating 2 enormous bowls of clotted cream ice cream, she feels 'really sick', but does she put it down to greed? Oh no, she is suffering from an 'allergic reaction to something she ate' ::) Usually, she decides the reaction was due to the healthiest part of the main meal eaten just before the icecream...
On the plus side, I cooked a potato gratin last night using semi-skimmed milk instead of cream and only 3/4 the amount of cheese and she didn't notice the difference! Downside is that it is meant to serve 4 but it went in the one meal...
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Hard work then! I know how mothers can throw tantrums >:( and in our house everything had to be hung the 'right' way, or else :( ……… I note that since Dad died in 2006 Mum now hangs the loo rolls as she likes ::) rather than with the edge of the roll hanging outwards.
Is she naracisstic type? or OCD ……… the former more like with her 'allergic reaction' mind-set ::). How do you cope!
Would your Mum go to a dining club - mine goes every 2 weeks so mixes with others and they get their meal cooked.
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Before I moved in, she was living on cheese, crisps, sweets, chocolate, biscuits, cakes, icecream & pizza! With an occasional ready meal (the really cheap kind where all the salt, sugar and fat traffic lights are red) So I don't feel I need to see a dietician to discuss whether or not her preferred diet is 'healthy' or not!!! Oh, and she would have 6 'medicinal' sprouts once a week, so she could tell people she ate 'lots' of greens ::) She had a heart attack a number of years ago, so is supposed to watch fatty food etc, but wont do it.
In one way it's not worth the hassle. In another way, I know if I leave her to her own culinary devices, she will be dead within a year... So not bothering would feel a bit like signing her death warrant!
She is obsessive about the amount of kitchen equipment used, so cooking two lots of anything is not on - also obsessive about water use - I know it sounds crazy, but you have no idea of the level of control she likes...I even have to hang the mugs on the mug hooks in the right order, and it's like WW3 has started if I get them in the wrong order :o .
As to what happens if she eats junk food, she feels really ill, but never admits that is the cause - e.g. after eating 2 enormous bowls of clotted cream ice cream, she feels 'really sick', but does she put it down to greed? Oh no, she is suffering from an 'allergic reaction to something she ate' ::) Usually, she decides the reaction was due to the healthiest part of the main meal eaten just before the icecream...
On the plus side, I cooked a potato gratin last night using semi-skimmed milk instead of cream and only 3/4 the amount of cheese and she didn't notice the difference! Downside is that it is meant to serve 4 but it went in the one meal...
that last para made me laugh ..... She's a good eater then!! ;D
My Mum eats loads of sweet stuff ......cakes, biscuits, creamy yogurts, mousses, sweets etc and she also gets through loads of salty stuff like Pringles and Ritz crackers. however she eats proper food at mine most weekends and she eats at her little club twice a week and that's all home cooked food. She gets an odd day when she's got extra energy and she will make a batch of homemade soup using all fresh stuff or maybe some shepherds pies to freeze.
She'll be 92 this year so I don't worry any more. ;)
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Well done Dorothy!
How about sneaking in low calorie cheese?
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My OH cut out all sugar and cut back on potatoes, pasta, carbs and has lost over 8kgs in 3 mths..... :)
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That's good! How's his mood?
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Was a nightmare in the beginning but much better now, he did cheat over Xmas though, who can resist trifle :) think he misses the odd beer as well but when he has seen the scale and had so many compliments, mostly from ladies mind you....he is adamant its his new life style....
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Toffeecusion.....first week on sw and ive lost 3lb :) How are you doing with ww??
Clio
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Ooh, well done, Clio!
I've decided there's no point getting too serious about dieting until the Christmas cake has gone...only 3 slices left!
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Well done Clio, I only lost 2lb, but I am enjoying it.
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Dorothy.....we ate what was opened like mince pies and christmas cake etc however we have loads of unopened stuff like choc biscuits, boxes of chocolates...yum, ive checked the dates and put them away.....out of sight out of mind.
Toffeecusion.....2lbs is still alot when you think how heavy 2lb actually is! When i started sw last year I was losing roughly 1lb a week, I know it will take a while for me to get back into my 12s clothes but I dont feel hungry or restricted. I got in my head its not a diet just a change of eating habits. If we go out for the day and eat out i'll have what I want off the menu, I just stick to sw when at home. I know that week I probably wont lose anything but I know from past experiences I will fall of the wagon if I dont give my self a break once in a while and not beat myself up. I use to have a naughty day then think......right i'll stuff my face and start again Monday. This is why I found it hard to lose the weight, so I suppose its whats works best for you.
Clio
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Mince pies went long ago - I'm the only person who really likes them so I didn't want to make too many in case I ended up eating them all! I'm just eating the last slice of Christmas cake so back to one piece of cake a week after this. Annoyingly, our next door neighbour has just brought round a whole uneaten stolen (which I love) as 'she doesn't want to get fat eating it'!!! Well, neither do I!
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2nd weigh in - lost 3lbs this week. How is everyone else doing?
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Ooh, well done!
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Well done. My future DIL is doing well on her diet. Half a stone since just before Christmas. She put on over the holidays, but is doing well. I started before Christmas, lost 3lbs, then put it back on. :-\ So started in earnest again this week, so too early to tell. Want to lose about a stone by November, earlier if I can.
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There's a large box of chocolates on the sofa next to me. And it's open. And the chocolates are calling to me. I can hear them! They're saying: :foryou:, even though I've already had four. Help!
(Bit later) - I managed to get them to go and sit on the table. Now they're behaving themselves.
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Toffeecushion....what your update with your diet?? Ive just weighed myself....in total ive lost 5lb in January. Im pleased with that as although im following a eating plan there have been days when i have gone over my daily syns and last week we went to the theatre and had a small box of chocolates, ice cream on top of a pre show meal out which included a very naughty pudding. SW really does suit me wished I had tried this years ago.
Clio
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I've lost 11lb in January. I'm still enjoying it, finding it very easy.
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After a good start in January ive got stuck and dropped anymore weight :(
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I'm stuck too Clio. Annoying isn't it. :(
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More exercise? Do some body conditioning/strength training so you can eat more without putting on weight - (or else lose a bit more) because muscle burns more calories at rest than fat).
Maybe have a few days off the diet to challenge your system and then start again - this way your metabolism won't adapt to lower intake - not sure how scientific that is but starvation mode is definitely a recognised phenomenon.
Hurdity x