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Menopause Discussion => Other Health Discussion => Topic started by: Limpy on November 19, 2015, 06:59:23 PM

Title: Antibiotic Resistance - Seems a step closer
Post by: Limpy on November 19, 2015, 06:59:23 PM
In China a strain of bacteria have been identified which are resistant to the drug of last resort.
Ladies - this ain't good.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-34857015

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/antibiotic-resistant-superbugs-pose-a-global-threat-after-breaking-through-last-line-of-defence-a6740166.html



 
Title: Re: Antibiotic Resistance - Seems a step closer
Post by: CLKD on November 19, 2015, 07:04:56 PM
There was an article yesterday about how pets are passing on AB-resistant illnesses to their owners ……. we I never caught anything from mine  ::)

It's laziness on the part of patients very often, who want a quick fix  >:(
Title: Re: Antibiotic Resistance - Seems a step closer
Post by: Limpy on November 19, 2015, 07:28:19 PM
There was an article yesterday about how pets are passing on AB-resistant illnesses to their owners ……. we I never caught anything from mine  ::)

It's laziness on the part of patients very often, who want a quick fix  >:(

Sadly - This is a bit more than that.
It' has actually happened in China, people and livestock can't get rid of the bacteria, some reports of it being found in Malysia as well.

Apparently the big pharma company making the drug may have sold it to agriculturalists for profit.
 "It is likely resistance emerged after colistin was overused in farm animals"
Title: Re: Antibiotic Resistance - Seems a step closer
Post by: CLKD on November 19, 2015, 07:40:56 PM
I could never understand why Vets used ABs so readily ……….. farm animals usually heal themselves  ::)
Title: Re: Antibiotic Resistance - Seems a step closer
Post by: Limpy on November 19, 2015, 07:46:44 PM
I could never understand why Vets used ABs so readily ……….. farm animals usually heal themselves  ::)

Think the ABs are used to plump the animals up rather than heal or cure  ::)
Title: Re: Antibiotic Resistance - Seems a step closer
Post by: CLKD on November 19, 2015, 07:56:53 PM
That was water in chickens ………. injected under the skin at the time of slaughter  :-\
Title: Re: Antibiotic Resistance - Seems a step closer
Post by: Limpy on November 19, 2015, 08:02:08 PM
That was water in chickens ………. injected under the skin at the time of slaughter  :-\

I'm sure that's true CLKD.
But I think ABs are also used to boost the body condition and fertility of sheep and cattle.
Title: Re: Antibiotic Resistance - Seems a step closer
Post by: countrybumpkin on November 19, 2015, 08:07:33 PM
I have read that they give antibiotics as routine to help them grow and keep them disease free in intensive farming otherwise they would all die because of the intensive conditions.  Chickens and pigs are good examples.

If you eat meat/dairy you eat the antibiotic residue.

Water was injected into chicken meat after slaughter to plump up the meat so it looked better.

I'm not going to research the finer details of this as its so upsetting to see and read about conditions. 

Many years ago when Russia was still Soviet Union they were using macrophages to combat disease rather than anti biotics but when communism collpased all the research and labs went as well. Maybe they were on the right lines??
Title: Re: Antibiotic Resistance - Seems a step closer
Post by: Joyce on November 19, 2015, 10:29:01 PM
I avoid them like the plague, especially after having so many when I had pneumonia several years ago. I'm sure that's where all my problems with them stemmed from.
Title: Re: Antibiotic Resistance - Seems a step closer
Post by: SadLynda on November 20, 2015, 11:20:57 AM
At last, the only good thing that came of AB's giving me thrush - I avoided them like the plague and GP visits.  I can count on one hand how many times I had AB's in my life.

Agreed CKLD about vets, I often refused them for my dogs as it was their answer to every complaint, and always 'take these too, just in case' for everything.