Menopause Matters Forum
Menopause Discussion => Other Health Discussion => Topic started by: Limpy on October 17, 2015, 02:16:40 PM
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OH saw something in the New Scientist which suggested that modern bread, made using using fast fermenting techniques may aggravate IBS. Apparently something to do with not all of the
yeast sugars being successfully fermented. Traditional Sourdough bread was mentioned as an alternative along with traditional French bread made using French flour.
OH was very taken with the article as he loves bread but it kicks off his IBS. I couldn't find a link to anything online directly discussing the link to IBS but I did find a couple of things talking about the health benefits of Sourdough bread in general
http://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2014/aug/12/rise-sourdough-bread-slow-fermented-health-benefits
http://www.sourdough.co.uk/why-is-it-that-i-can-digest-sourdough-bread-and-not-commercial-bread/
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He is offering to experiment Limpy - let us know so that we can follow the smell of baking bread to your kitchen ;)
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He is offering to experiment Limpy - let us know so that we can follow the smell of baking bread to your kitchen ;)
Er No ;D
He has baked bread in the past (14 years ago) but that was using a new fangled Panasonic bread maker with speedy type yeast.
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My DH has always made bread and after a recent cottage holiday in Wales where we had a home made sourdough loaf he decided to try one himself. We got a starter from the local farm shop and away he went. It really is nice bread with no fat or sugar in. You use the same starter , keeping it in the fridge and feeding it with flour when you want to make a loaf- we call our starter 'Sid. There are lots of u tube videos about how to do it and Paul Hollywood has recipes. I can see that absence of sugar or added preservative might help with ibs, it's a lovely light loaf with a crunchy crust,toasts well too. It's not a speedy loaf to make ,it has to be proved overnight but it smells lovely when it's cooking.
Thorntrees
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Just had a chat with OH.
Apparently it's the unfermented sugars, rather than yeast, which disrupt the gut.
Whatever, if it works.........
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Galadriel started her own starter.....I remember I'm sure. I like making bread but generally use a bread maker. I would like to have a starter for sour dough.
I actually don't eat that much bread as I feel bloated afterwards. I do have toast on occasions but that's about it.
I have cereal for breakfast so no bread then. Occasionally bread for lunch, so I wonder if it's worth while.
Honeybun
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I actually don't eat that much bread as I feel bloated afterwards. I do have toast on occasions but that's about it.
OH gets bloated too.
Hence him getting so pleased to see the New Scientist article.
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Hopefully GD can tell us her SD starter recipe. Maybe that can cut down on the time it takes to get it right and then we will be churning out loaves. It's a bit of an art I think.
I find bread making...on the rare occasions I do it by hand....very therapeutic.
Honeybun
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Sounds a bit like the 'friendship cake' - 1 keeps a yeast mix and when it is required, it is 'fed'. 1 then halves the mix and passes it to a friend ::). Chain letter gone mad in my opinion ;D
Live yeast bothers me a bit ........... :-\ :-X
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Whooops - I felt guilty not feeding the yeast starter but we didn't want any more cake. It was *yeast* for goodness sake ::) but I still felt guilty :D
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Sooty to take ages to reply... Been off lounge for a bit.
The sourdough starter is a doddle to make... quite fun too watching it come to life.
I've used this recipe and a big kilner jar and it works well - http://paulhollywood.com/recipes/sourdough-starter/
I've also made one with organic wholemeal flour and water. There should be enough naturally occurring yeasts in the flour. It takes a bit longer but you don't have bits of fruit in the starter. I will try to find e recipe for this one - from a breadmaking class I went to. It's in a safe place ::)
My gut is way better with traditional baguette, German Ryebread and spelt loaves.
Note to self - ditch the modern loaf!!!
Galadriel x
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:thankyou: Galadriel
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Sooty, have you been partaking of the grape tonight ;D And as for being off lounge.....ooo ;D ;D
Is it the starter that causes such...umm jolliness.
I'm going to get making PDQ ;D
Thanks GD.
Honeyb
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Initiative test ? ………
It's the G&t talking ;)
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She is probably sparko on the sofa now ;D
Wish I was...got to get that starter going if that's what it does for you. ;D
Honeybun
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:lol:
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We cheated and bought a starter but are now quite the converts to sourdough bread, it is a slow process to get a good end result and while it's proving not a lot to do except....... sorry too much Sauvignon!! One of the perks of being retired and not having to get up on a Monday.. Hubby found an article about sourdough and its benefits to the digestive system - all good and so much better than modern bread.
Thorntrees
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This thread made me hungry earlier so DH sliced and toasted a round of his home made loaf and put locally made marmalade and ginger on top :-*
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A good sourdough bread is so tasty and no sugar - it takes longer to toast because of this. You can look online if you dont want to make it as a bakery in Wiltshire posts them out and they freeze really well. The ones in supermarkets arent as good .
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Thanks Winterose - off to Google.....