Menopause Matters Forum
Menopause Discussion => All things menopause => Topic started by: Dandelion on September 19, 2015, 12:12:23 AM
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When I am in the utrogestan part of my cycle I am careful what I drink before going to bed, so that I can insert the urtogestan vaginally, in the hope of not needing to go for a wee after I have inserted the utro.
Anyway, no matter what, there are some times i still do need a wee especially if I am laid awake a long time in between putting in the utro and falling asleep.
I am concerned that if the utro has only been in my vagina 20mins that it will fall out when i go for a wee, so when I come back from my wee, I put another 100mg capsule in there, to make up for any that might have come out with my weee. My dose is 200mg
is this ok
thanks
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Hi Dandelion,
I think I would see in the the toilet if it had fallen out. I dont think I would add in another capsule "just in case " unless I could see one in the toilet pan. Are you inserting the capsule high into the vagina? I go for a wee in the night and have never had one fall out. Sometimes in the morning there is a little bit of semi dissolved capsule in the pan after a wee, but I see this as a good thing.
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I agree with hayjude. If you put it in as far as possible then it will be out of the way or your urethra so it shouldn't fall out in the urine stream.
Taz x
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Hi girls :)
thanks. I have just been putting it about an inch but maybe I should put it higher.
I don't like touching my vagina, even though I insert applicator tampons at period time. I use a wet wipe to wipe my hand after inserting the capsule. I know I sound like a right weirdo. hahha
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I think it needs to go as far as you can Dandelion. Of course you should always wash your hands thoroughly after inserting tampons even with an applicator - you don't sound like a weirdo - it's good hygiene practice!!
Taz x
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I think it needs to go as far as you can Dandelion. Of course you should always wash your hands thoroughly after inserting tampons even with an applicator - you don't sound like a weirdo - it's good hygiene practice!!
Taz x
Hi Taz, I will insert it as high as it can go.
I wonder, you know those applicators you get with pessaries, I wonder if you can get one of those and use it to insert the capsule?
thanks
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I have just been putting it about an inch but maybe I should put it higher.
An inch doesn't sound nearly enough.
I think Taz is correct, put it as far as it will go.
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My utrogeston comes with applicators . But I'm sure any pessary one would do maybe ask the pharmacy.
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My utrogeston comes with applicators . But I'm sure any pessary one would do maybe ask the pharmacy.
Thanks I will go in and ask today.
No wonder I hadn't been getting proper periods, if I wasn't shoving it up high enough.
If they can't provide me with an applicator, I will just shove them up as high as they can go.
Sometimes I have trouble finding the hole and I end up, rolling the capsule around my inner labia, but i get there eventually, lol.
Hahhahah the things us ladies have to do, but it's much easier than oral, because I always find that in the four hours after eating, before I take the capsule, I ended up getting hungry and cheating.
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step 1 - Lay down on the bed
step 2 - put a mirror so that you can see your Personal Places
step 3 - open outer lips gently
step 4 - insert utrogestan as high up as is possible - 1" isn't enough!
step 5 - relax and breath
step 6 - lay quietly
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;D
Sorry CLKD.
You will be drawing us a map next.
Honeybun
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;D …… even this MacBookPro isn't that clever ;)
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:rofl:
Oh go on , give it a go...
Sorry ;)
Honeybun
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Not enough ladies look apparently ::) …. so are un-familiarir with the layout - it's probably a hark-back to the Victorians >:(
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I'm not sure why you have to "lie quietly" or how long for...
Taz x :veil:
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As long as one wants to ;) - to allow absorption, some 'me' time, reading Very Good Book
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You crack me up CLKD!!
Taz x :rofl:
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Cheap at half the price ;)
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Depends on how you pass the time I guess....a good book....a short episode of Emmerdale.....a song.
How long is a bit of string ;D
Honeybun
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I just had visions of women all over the country, their hands pressed to their brow, lying back and reading a book while the absorption takes place. What about if they had to go to work straight after! Thanks for the giggle!
Taz x
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:rofl:
Now there is a mental picture.
Maybe we are doing it all wrong. I prefer CLKDs version....minus the mirror ;)
Honeybun
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Surely 1 uses the preparation that Dandelion has been prescribed at night :-\ - that's when I apply my Ovestin1g ……… therefore, after my bath I get into my bed and hey presto! ……. ;)
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With the mirror ;D
Honeybun
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No - I don't need a mirror.
Dandelion - how's 2-day been?
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:rofl:
Utrogestan is licensed to be used vaginally as part of a fertility programme though and has to be used morning and night. I only know that as the woman I worked with was undergoing fertility treatment so had to use it before coming into work. Maybe we should have provided her with a sofa to recline on when she got in!
Taz x :yes:
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So how was it ever absorbed? Did your colleague get up really, really, early :-\ because what goes up, has to ……. + to that, gravity ……..
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How do tampons stay in when you stand up?
Taz x :lol:
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If you pushing up far enough CLKD it doesn't budge, it just dissolves with the heat of the body.
It's like a tampon....your muscles....if you have them ::)....keep things in place.
Honeybun
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My vagina is too short to have used tampons ;) ………. that's something that Dandelion might consider too if she has problems with insertion.
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I have to ask... does Himself have a shorter than a tampon you-know-what?
Taz x :whist:
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They really aren't that long CLKD and I'm not sure I understand how you came to that conclusion.
Oh heck I was going to ask that but restrained myself ;D
Honeybun
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During a gynaecological examination - simples ……...
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So how do you manage ...err emmm....you know.
Honeybun
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:-X :P - we practice ;) : simples …….
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;D
Honeybun
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Hmm - Not sure any amount of practice is going to help if you're that small ;D
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Apparently if you can't insert a tampon it's down to the angle - so maybe it's the angle of the dangle?
Taz x ;D
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Poor Dandelion will wonder what's happened to her topic...it's gone mental....what are we like.
Think walnut whip Limpy ;D
Honeybun
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:P ……. I was well married by the time this particular examination took place ;)
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Don't think that counts CLKD. ;D
Honeybun
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Poor Dandelion will wonder what's happened to her topic...it's gone mental....what are we like.
Think walnut whip Limpy ;D
Ah - Now I understand ;)
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Heee hee....you got there.
Now who started the walnut whip topic....never quite looked at one of those the same again.....still force myself though ::)
Honeybun
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Hahahahhh at this thread.
I just got back about half an hour ago, and just online now, after putting a late night casserole in the oven.
Im glad that if I insert the utro high enough, it won't fall out due to gravity.
As for tampons, I use them, but the lilets fall out, even if I put them up high enough.
Sometimes, if I cannot sleep, I am up wandering around, even if my bladder is empty, and I always wonder at 'utro time' will gravity do it's stuff?
I dunno, I just find it hard to stay laid down in bed, anyway :) I will shove it up higher, then if I need a wee, or if I wanna go walkies I know I will be ok.
I didn't get to boots, cos I bumped into some friends and my plans went meh!
hahhahahh
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Heee hee....you got there.
Now who started the walnut whip topic....never quite looked at one of those the same again.....still force myself though ::)
Honeybun
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And there was me thinking I quite fancied a walnut whip ::)
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Possibly not then ;D
Honeybun
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Possibly - But you can't rush these things, must make sure ;D
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So pleased we made you giggle ;). A nice time with friends can boost how we feel!
[walnut whip :-\ ]
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Mental image CLKD.....what does it look like ;)
Honeybun
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:)
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Blimey!!!!!
Well in terms of gravity - a tampon will stay in because it's horrible rough cotton wool stuff so friction as well as muscles keep it in. I understand the concerns about utrogestan because it is a tiny smooth capsule and designed so the outer coating dissovles and all the goo comes out and diffuses through the cervix into the uterus. Well if I went to an execrise class after inserting mine in the morning (never insert mine then) it would defo come out! In fact the Gynest (local oestrogen) pessaries would come out if I got out of bed after inserting them at night! Mind you l've had 4 children so everything's a bit lax down there ;D.
Yes Dandelion - the further up the better - as near to the cervix as you can get it!
Anyway more is absorbed vaginally (than orally) and you are using the same dose, so hopefully enough stuff will find its way to the uterus to keep the lining thin. This is important in your case Dandelion as you ae on a 100 mcg patch which is higher dose oestrogen!
Hurdity x
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Sorry to drench this thread up again, but last night I was ready for bed, and been to the loo, and put my utro in, as high as it would go.
I was laid in bed a while, tossing and turning, and l needed a wee.
I noticed bits of the white capsule in the water, so I put a 100mg one in
I did this before I realised that the capsule is full of fluid and its the fluid that our vaginas need adn it doesn't matter if the outer capsule gets weed out. ?
thanks