Menopause Matters Forum
Menopause Discussion => Personal Experiences => Topic started by: Cwtch on September 13, 2015, 10:23:09 AM
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Since last posting I have yet again been back to the G.P. Have never been to the surgery so often in my life ! The doctor has now prescribed beta-blockers to use as needed if I have a bad anxiety attack. I am yet undecided as to whether to try them and yet to pick up the prescription. Has anyone had positive results from using them? The G.P. also suggested A.D.'s and said because I seem to be having a bad week every month I could just take them for the week when needed. This is a first for me as I thought once on them you had to take them continually ? I have decided against taking A.D.'s at the moment. Is it common on sequi-HRT to have monthly dips in mood like PMT ? Or can you also have the same experience with continuous HRT ? I had a bad week around the time of the monthly bleed and have thankfully felt OK since but I am assuming the same is going to happen every month - and I am already dreading it ! Any comments and advice appreciated !
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Hi....sorry I can't help from my experience as not taking anything ATM apart from supplements vits etc but sure ladies with experience will be along to help.....can only sympathise....sending hugs x
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Hi I use ADS,not for depression but for anxiety,palps,etc. Have never heard of using them one week here and there I must say ! Quite a few on here use beta blockers though this way successfully I believe,hopefully they will be along to tell you of their experiences. I know Iam much better with my medication alongside my hrt,however I'm starting to taper off my hrt with a view to stopping it entirely. Hope you get some relief soon.
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Hi Cwtch
I think the BB's seem to work differently with each of us. I tried a few to see how I got on, they did calm me down a bit, but only the physical symptoms which is what they are for. Wonder if your GP is wanting to give you diazepan if its just for as and when? They seem to help many too.
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I've never heard of prescribing anti depressants in an on/off way either. Diazepam is a tranquiliser not an anti depressant though. Which type have you been prescribed Cwtch?
Taz x
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I was prescribed Propranolol in 2002 - 80mg at night for 3 weeks dropped down to 40mg - in order to control the morning anxiety surges. In May this year I dropped the dose to 40mg due to dull headaches which lasted all day. However: background anxiety began then panic attacks, silly me; didn't associate it with the drop of dose as there was a lot going on through the months which I could blame for the anxiety.
I have taken antidepressant medication since 1988 and have NEVER heard of ADs being used 'as necessary'. All those I have been prescribed have needed to be taken daily in order to build up support for the brain.
Valium, Ativan etc. can be taken 'as necessary' as prescribed. Not to be relied upon for long-term use.
Have you thought of Rescue Remedy, it has worked for me. Silly me [again], I forgot this year to use it :-\ - found some today and have put it where I can see it! in case.
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The latest research on severe PMS/PMDD is that taking an AD for 7-10 days prior to your period is just as effective as taming it every day, all month.
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Oh do post the Research GRL - from long-term experience of ADs (1988) it is worth while knowing of updates in case I need something different in future as the brain can 'poop out' once it gets used to a particular drug ::)
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Many thanks for all your replies . Have yet to get the tablets but will prob get them and if I have a bad blip will give them a go and report back. So far this month I have been feeling well but will be interested to see how I feel in the week when 'period' is due. I'm still hoping the HRT has kicked in and I don't get severe monthly PMT symptoms including the dreaded anxiety!!!
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Forgot to say yes I love the rescue remedies - no idea if they really make a difference but its good to feel like your taking something. I also take kalms when I'm having a bad run of anxiety. Just bought night time kalms to try due to waking in the wee small hours.
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Do you keep a note of your ups and downs?
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I have started marking anxiety attacks on calendar - basically seem to be happening 7-10 days around the monthly 'period' (due to being on sequi HRT). It is a bit like PMT (I think as I have not really suffered bad PMT before !). I don't know if going on to conti HRT would solve the problem or even whether it would just happen monthly regardless of being on HRT ? At least I have 2-3 weeks feeling OK (apart from the 7-10 day blip).
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I have been on AD's for many years, I have never heard it suggested that they be taken just a week a month. I thought they had to be taken daily and take a good 5 or 6 weeks to kick in.
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Good idea to keep a note - when my anxiety begins I have a score rating of 1-5: 5 being when I have to take emergency medication.
If you find that the anxiety is 'monthly' could you cope?
GRL - could you point us in the direction of the 'research' that you mentioned? 'calls for papers', 'abstracts', 'authors' etc.; I am intrigued as to any new suggestions in case I need to change my current AD in future.
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I've found this one CLKD - third paragraph http://www.psychiatrictimes.com/articles/comparing-full-and-half-cycle-treatment-serotonergic-antidepressants-severe-pms This is from 1999 so not new research it seems.
Taz x
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Hi, thanks Taz, for posting that link. I have just read it as that is of great interest to me due to suffering severe perimenopausal pms which is making my life (& the rest of the househo!d's lives) a misery. What LeeJane has mentioned is a good point, though, because what happens when you stop taking the AD's for the 'good' time during the cycle? Do you get withdrawal symptoms? Also, when I first go on AD's, I get INCREASED anxiety for the first week. I wou!d definitely take them if I didn't get the horrib!e side effects - I seem to have become very sensitive to a lot of meds recently. Has anyone out there tried this method & had success with it? X
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I am trying to get by without taking anything other than the HRT & kalms as it does seem to be a monthly experience. I think your mantra 'it will pass' definitely helps ! I think it is a case of coming to terms with the different emotions - it is definitely a transition ! I am also making the most of the ups rather than focusing on the downs.
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1999 isn't recent though ……… and GRL seems to think there is latest research :-\
Ah well ……. I know that it isn't usually suggested to mess with ADs because the brain requires a regular supply to enable the sufferer to cope …….