Menopause Matters Forum
Menopause Discussion => All things menopause => Topic started by: GypsyRoseLee on August 27, 2015, 09:16:29 AM
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I have been doing really well on the BCP for the last week or so. Felt more stable and contented than I have done in months and months.
Then out of the blue yesterday I got two nasty adrenaline surges in quick succession, and I have felt on edge and anxious since.
But thinking back to yesterday I missed breakfast, only had a very small sandwich for lunch but did have a bug packet of Skittles! And it was less than 2 hours later that I had the two nasty adrenaline surges.
Wondering if there's a connection? Only had a small portion of lasagne for dinner then a thin slice of cake, which I didn't fancy at all but my daughter had baked it.
Woke twice in the night feeling anxious and in edge but got back to sleep quickly. Then woke about 6ish feeling really quite jittery.
Felt better once I got up. Missed breakfast again and I don't seem to have much appetite (unlike when I was on HRT and I could have eaten the house).
I have also lost 4lbs this last week.
Presumably (it's been 20 days on it now) the Pill has now shut down my ovaries so this can't still be hormonal surges or fluctuations can it?
So wondering if yesterday was caused by just not havjng enough to eat and too much sugar from the Skittles?
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Hi GRL
I've felt exactly the same this week but not changed any meds or anything. It's awfull to feel like this and yes I think there is a link with not eating properly and adrenaline surges. What do you do though when you have no appetite? I'm struggling at the moment and everything I try to eat just upsets me and makes me nauseous.
Big Hugs
Shellb
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Hi both,
When I am feeling sickly hungry but have no appetite I drink a protein drink. If you keep them in the fridge they're quite nice to drink and have different flavours. Great for keeping up your vitamins too and staves off those weird surges. Most supermarkets sell them now.
Jedigirl xxx
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Eat little and often it really does help ,I know it's hard to when you really don't feel like it but it's very important to eat breakfast even if it's a banana,or porridge,even a couple of biscuits.
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Every time I eat just lately I feel sick, in fact I was yesterday, just bile. Having the anxious stomach all the time doesn't help. I'm always bloated and full of wind but since I was sick I'm worrying about being sick! How silly is that? I have started back on the macrobiotic today to see if that helps.
Does anyone Else ever this?
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Hi Shellb,
I have come back on the forum today as I am not feeling physically well atm - horrid taste in my mouth again, constant heady feeling and feel sick when I eat. Loads of wind and stomach is bloated again...don't know what I'm doing to cause it but I wish I knew how to make it go away. So tired again too, though I am carrying on as normal but for a snooze here and there if I can.
I hope it's hormonal fluctuations as at least it might settle down again automatically, when the hormones do.
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I am a firm believer in eating regularly, and sleeping if possible (I do the first one). My daughter who is going through pre-natal depression will NOT eat regularly or properly and I can see what that does, My son-in-law who is also going through some form of mental illness is up all night and also does not eat as he should.
I have porridge for breakfast, a banana and nuts mid morning, lunch, mid afternoon snack or shake, dinner and something before bed.. yes, there is a chance I will put on more weight, but I havent so far as I walk many hours in the day and do yoga. This is new this week for the afternoon one, as I was finding tea time to be a rough time for me and wondered if it was a drop.
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I'm so full of wind and bloated, I just don't know what to eat, any suggestions? I need something gentle on my tummy xXx
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When I drop weight for whatever reason I do not do as well. My body knows what weight is best for me and I am much better and nicer to live with if I eat properly and stay at the correct weight for me.
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I'm so full of wind and bloated, I just don't know what to eat, any suggestions? I need something gentle on my tummy xXx
I get diverticulitis (inflamed/infected colon) from time to time and know that porridge (as it has soluble fibre as opposed to insoluble) and Live Bio yoghurts are my safe soothing foods
Pollie
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Yogurts used to be good for me too but recently they have made me vomit so I'm looking for something else. xXx
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Yes!
Exactly the same thing happened to me on Saturday. I have had no appetite lately and ate an ice cream, which I didn't really want, and within an hour had a massive adrenaline rush. Jittery feeling stayed until Sunday night. Makes me all jerky and trembly. Horrible.
I try and eat every 3 hours even if I don't fancy it. Protein and slow release foods good. Think it has something to do with insulin!
Hope this helps. Hope your jittery feeling soon passes.
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too much refined sugar does it to me too :spin:
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I agree with Pollie about porridge (assuming it means oatmeal). I really should be eating that every single morning because I notice a BIG difference in how my stomach acts if I have "cheated" and had bread instead. Not to forget that oats are great for the heart and blood pressure :) !
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Sadlynda, that is the way I am eating, don't care about putting on weight as I am more active......suits me much better when I eat well and snack.....even eat through the night if I wake up, just a biscuit or something not sugary and drink water....it helps me with palps x
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Heavens GypsyRoseLee - no wonder you felt weird! No breakfast? Skittles?! I agree with the others - the first thing you have to do at this time in your life is eat a good healthy diet, little or no refined sugar - except for little treats now and again) and eat slow release foods regularly.
Too much sugar will stimulate insulin production (which takes it out of the blood and stores it in the liver as glycogen and ultimately as fat). If you keep on eating too much sugar in large quantities you can go on to develop insulin resistance ( it no longer works properly to take the sugar out of the blood) and you then can develop Type 2 diabetes. This appears to be increasingly risky for women of our age/stage. It also has the immediate effect of giving you the shakes if you start to eat such large amounts of pure sugar every day - because large amounts of insulin are produced which take it out of the blood very quickly. If there is nothing there then you get low blood sugar symptoms very quickly.
I am very sensitive to blood sugar changes and even before I was peri-menopausal (ie regular periods still) I started getting really bad symptoms pre-menstrually - either due to the progesterone (my own) or the sudden fall - so had to change my breakfast diet from ordinary cereal (which would give me the shakes by mid moring ie not enough) to muesli, porridge or cooked breakfast.
You must eat reguarly and slow release foods as the others have suggested - so at least you won't have these symptoms to contend with. The advantage actually is that you will end up eating less as you won't get so hungry!
Hurdity x
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Thank you for everyone replies. It's interesting to see what an effect food and blood sugar has on our system.
Hurdity, I didn't realise that about insulin? I have to confess my diet is very far from good. In fact it's rubbish. I still eat like a teenager. Far too much sweet stuff and empty carbs and nowhere near enough protein or fruit and veg.
I really need to get a grip and start eating like a proper grown up. Obviously I have eaten badly and abused my system for too long. And now going into my mid 40s obviously I can't handle it anymore.
If there's a definite link between my poor diet and these nasty adrenaline surges, or feelings of anxiety/jitteriness then I am more than prepared to eat much more healthily and regularly. I really am.
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Yep!
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Hi again GypsyRoseLee
It's not the complete answer - but at least if you eat a proper diet and cut down the sugar spikes you will eliminate any problems due to this - adrenalin surges are still part of menopause (so I gather) but hopefully you will not feel quite so bad if your blood sugar and insulin levels are better regulated!
Yes to lots of protein and fruit and veg - must have 5-7 a day - also protective against cancers... :)
Hurdity x
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Thanks Hurdity
I think it was an adrenaline surge I experienced. Like a very sharp flash of anxiety/panic in my brain that only lasted a second. Does that sound right? No physical symptoms though.
Last night I had a piece of wholemeal bread before going to bed abd when I woke in the night I didn't feel normal, but didn't have any nasty anxiety prickles.
I had a slice of wholemeal toast and butter for breakfast. So have started the day quite well.
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well done on the new diet regime GLR - sounds good so far.
had to be very careful today as last nights dinner upset my stomach big time, not a well bunny at all this morning. But got brave and had my porridge with water to drink, went out doing the dog walking (very brave of me) apart from the pangs all was well, so had my banana and apple mid morning and also stuck with water. Feeling better now so going to brave lunch, which is wholemeal toast with raw honey..............and the rest of my eclair from yesterday LOL.. well it was a bad day yesterday, and yes most likely my crisps too. But, I will behave better after that. My yoga experts is always banging on about diet and is horrified by the idea of red meat, so I got ostrich steaks for tonight, no collestrol? so must be okay right ;D Also got a lot of green veg in to have with it.
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Ostrich steaks? :o - do you have to catch it ? ;D is the oven large enough to get a whole leg in :D
What's wrong with chicken :-\. Or fish …….
Eating little and often, even through the night can ease adrenaline surges. NAPS advised me to eat 3 hourly, so when I had to let the puppy out to pee I had a biscuit before going back to sleep: didn't take her many nights to realise that there were *biscuits* ……… ;D
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I feel so very much better when I eliminate sugar and cut down on wheat but, as an emotional eater who was once a borderline bulimic, I can go off beam quite quickly. I definitely notice the connection between days of poor eating patterns, bingeing and being more symptomatic.
Since my husband retired I am much better as I cook proper meals and am not very often totally on my own.
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Colpermin peppermint capsules, swallowed within an hour of eating the main meals, eases upper gut wind which stops nausea. Add to that Motillium-type medication swallowed at the same time - this regime saved my Life!
Once the gut settles get into a habit of eating little and often.