Menopause Matters Forum
General Discussion => This 'n' That => Topic started by: hanging.on.in.there on July 17, 2015, 01:06:24 PM
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Arrghh all this talk about restricting our sugar intake in the news is making me want more !
I have a healthy balanced diet, am not overweight and have days when no sugar passes my lips, but when I want cake, then only cake will do !
Same for sweets- I can't imagine a life without sugar !
Yes moderation is the key, but god the Nanny state is taking the fun out of life ! Go away ! !
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oh how I agree. My husband is driving me up the wall watching all the 'superfood' warning programmes and news reports.
All we need is common sense not this constant confusion. And yes, I have just made my usual batch of cakes for the weekend . :)
'All things in moderation' and 'a little of what you fancy does you good' ::)
Just to add to the Nanny State - my grandmothers were both over 90 when they died and my paternal grandmother and my parents had all their own teeth and none of them were overweight, so there :P
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Whereas - a lot of my family put on weight from age about 40 :o but didn't seem to recognise why ……. do-nuts anyone :-X
It's hidden sugars that are the danger: in soups, prepared meals, jams, chutneys …….. so starting to cook from scratch can ease those out of our diets. A different buying mentality so that the stock cupboard is never empty, basics so that a meal can be thrown together …… remember left over meals? Roast on Sunday followed by cold with salad or beans/mash, bubble and squeak ……. and puddings that really did fill the stomach, with custard or golden syrup :-* :-*
My Gran always put sugar on her lettuce ::) and she lived until she was 80+ …….. but as a child she walked 4 miles to school and 4 miles back with a slab of bread and dripping for lunch. It's lack of exercise in our Life-style that doesn't help.
I have found that chocolate tastes awful these days and makes my body feel sluggish. I don't have much in the way of soups unless I'm suddenly hungry …….. my weakness currently is 'mousse' with chocolate flavouring ::) :-* …..
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Having suffered with what my nan used to call 'tummy troubles' for the last month, with no apparent cause for it, I have begun a gluten and dairy free regime which does seem to have fixed, or at least alleviated, the problem. However, I am bu**ered if I am going to cut out sweet stuff too :D
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My Gran always put sugar on her lettuce ::) and she lived until she was 80+ ……..
so did mine CLKD. She's sprinkle it on bread and butter too. :)
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HORMONES >:( ::) …….. trying something 'new' can ease symptoms, even a day without eating too much gives the gut a break. I find if I don't take my evening meds it helps my bowels the next day. Sorry I digress :D
Trying to think what has sugar in: I have granola and milk with a black cuppa + 2 sugars for brekkies: another cuppa mid morning: sometimes shop bought biscuits to go with the cuppa; I don't avoid buns if my body needs them but if not I can walk by the cake shop. Little chocolate. Cuppas in the afternoon as well as my choc milkshake in the evenings which will have sugar in. I do lots of gardening, some walking, a little housework, I push a trolley round the store (does that count?). Bananas = natural sugars plus being slow release ………
I think it's OK for Governments/GPs to remind it's populace to eat healthy and exercise well. Also our dentists can have an impact ……. but I can't be bothered to read labels on yoghurts etc.!
Oh yes - sugar sandwich :-*
I like's HP sauce on hot toast ;-)
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there was always mashed banana sprinkled with brown sugar when we went to my Nanna's :) No one even thought about it but, as you say, everything was made from scratch and controlled, not hidden sugars to make bland processed stuff taste nice so we eat more of it :(
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I think that food was 'filling' until the 1980s when ready meals came to the shelves. Also we didn't eat between meals, if the Ice cream van arrived it was a treat!
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that's true, there was no snacking, or 'grazing'.
Anyone remember Vesta meals? I reckon that's where it all started........
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Heck CLKD, that's a lot of sugar every day.
The trouble with sugar is its empty calories, doesn't fill you up at all.
I don't take sugar in or on anything. Obviously I get it in cakes and biscuits but as I don't eat them either hardly, I don't think it amounts to much. My weakness is a bit of chocolate or a jelly bean. I have two squares usually or four beans. I have been on the low sugar thing so long I get queasy if I eat too much sweet stuff.
Honeyb
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It's teaspoons though, not shovel fulls ;D
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I buy a 500g bag of caster sugar and it will last at least a month, sometimes more. I need it in the house for visitors who like it in their tea or on their cornflakes. I occasionally bake if people are coming but that's all it is used for.
I used to have my grandmother's sweet tooth but now I dislike sweet stuff.
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That's what I used to do though and the sugar mounts up during the day in cups of tea.
I cut it out purely for weight reasons. I think I bought a bag of sugar last year and it's still in the back of the cupboard ::) I don't miss it at all as your taste buds alter.
I do bake though occasionally for the family and use sugar then.
Honeyb
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We buy 24 bags at a time from the bulk-buy warehouse ;) …….. can't not have sugar in my tea :o
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Well yes you can but you chose to ;D
Within a week I was used to it. Tea is naturally sweet but you don't notice it when you mask the flavour with sugar.
Honeyb
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My tea isn't naturally sweet :-\ needs help. DH stopped eating sugar many years ago when 1 had to spend a fiver in order to qualify for a bag of sugar due to a 'shortage'. Anyone remember that ………… >duck<. Even T-bags in the same box do vary in how much tannin they contain ………..
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CLKD. I have sugar in tea and coffee but sugar in chocolate milkshake? :sick02:
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It's in the mix ;)
It's on the News right now! but they are showing pre-canned food stuffs rather than what is in home cooked food ::)
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My Gran always put sugar on her lettuce ::) and she lived until she was 80+ ……..
so did mine CLKD. She's sprinkle it on bread and butter too. :)
I used to put sugar (brown sugar, note!) on bread and butter, too! That was then - now I'm a savouries person. (Polishes halo.........)
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:ange: this one then?
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Absolutely!
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you need to watch the salt too in savoury things.
It's silly isn't it - a pound of sugar is fat and salt free; a pound of butter is sugar free and a pound of salt is sugar and fat free We are advised to cut down on fat, salt and sugar - go figure (and I am rambling again)
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If you have six cups of tea in a day with two teaspoonfuls of sugar in each then thats twelve in total.
Get a saucer out and spoon that amount onto it and you would be shocked. It's far too much and not needed. Add that to every other hidden sugar and suddenly you are consuming an awful lot.
Every kind of cereal, cereal bar, biscuits and sweets.
Yes our grannies may have put sugar on lettuce but that was about it.
As you can tell I'm not a fan of sugar. ::)
Honeyb
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My grandparents used to eat lots of cake and biscuits, but it was all homemade and had less sugar in it than shop bought cake does today. Also, I notice that modern cake and jam recipes have a LOT more sugar in them than my old 1950 recipe books. I guess if we are used to eating bought cake loaded with sugar, then we will want more in our cake when we make it ourselves.
And we never had ready meals, sugary cereals or all the other foods that have hidden sugar in them. I've noticed that modern savoury recipes often advise adding sugar to a lasagne, shepherds pie or chicken casserole - YUK! But if you are used to sugar-laden ready meals, you will miss the sugar when you cook your own.
I was in a café this afternoon and chose the plain scone with no jam as it was the lowest-sugar thing on the menu - it was so sweet that I couldn't finish it. I'm finding it a real problem whenever I eat out as food tastes so sweet I have great difficulty eating it. I tend to avoid eating cake in restaurants now, but it's difficult when you are at a birthday celebration to sit there with just a drink while everyone else eats cake!
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My daughter has that problem with salt. She never uses any, neither when cooking or adding when eating a meal. She finds things overly seasoned. She likes her chilli and garlic just not salt.
It's a healthy choice, but for her it's a matter of taste.
Honeyb
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I stopped having sugar in drinks (tea,coffee) when I was 16. there's no way i'd have it now, can't stand the the taste of it.
Same sort of thing with salt, I've not cut it out to the same extent, I just don't like it much.
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I do keep salt to an absolute minimum. When I think back to what my mum told me. A dessertspoon of salt when cooking tatties. I just add a sprinkling nowadays. Hate overly salted food. Anything overly sweet gets me too. I do add it to bring out flavours though.
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I was reading this thread last night whilst tucking into a big bag of chocolate buttons. ::)
I don't add salt to anything but I do like it on chicken, tomatoes and celery.
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Strangely my mum always added sugar to tomatoes, not salt.
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I do think some people can become addicted to sugar. I am sure my mother is addicted. The other day she had an enormous slice of roulade for her afternoon tea, a huge slice of pavlova for dessert after her dinner just a couple of hours later, and immediately after dinner, I found her in the kitchen eating handfuls of sugary breakfast cereal straight out of the packet. And she had a bar of chocolate later that night. Today she has eaten 3 apple pies and 2 packets of crisps for lunch...before going out for afternoon tea with her sister, when I know she will eat cake.
I've tried encouraging her to cut down, but she denies she has a problem. What I see her eat is only a small fraction of what she probably puts away - she will stuff herself in private and hide the sweet wrappers. Last week she went into the kitchen to 'make some tea' and when I came out a few minutes later, she was stuffing an entire mars bar into her mouth in one go, and another empty wrapper on the counter, so it was obviously the second one. Really hard to know what to do, as I am cooking her healthy meals, but she eats those and then goes overboard on the junk afterward.
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Sounds like there is something wrong: either she doesn't like being 'told' or her body is lacking 'something'?
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When my hubby was developing Type 1 diabetes he went from not having a sweet tooth at all to not being able to eat enough sweet stuff.
Is your mum overweight. My hubby wasn't, in fact while this was going on he was loosing a lot of weight. He became very ill over a period of a few months.
Maybe get her glucose levels tested.....some pharmacies will do it for you.
Now he hardly eats any sweet stuff at all....a few squares of very dark chocolate is his limit now.
Honeyb
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Unfortunately, she won't listen to me. I've tried again and again to get her to see her GP about this but she won't. She is seriously overweight. Not sure how much longer her heart will stand the abuse she is giving it!
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Does she go for check ups. Get them to check then. Could be type 2 diabetes. Good luck with trying to get her to listen.
My mother never does ::)
Honeyb
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Problem is the GP won't listen to me due to patient confidentiality, and Mum won't allow me to be involved so I am dependent on her telling them about her issues...which she won't do. She's very good at putting on a 'normal' act in public... ::)
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Problem is the GP won't listen to me due to patient confidentiality
Dorothy - The GP can't talk to you about your Mum but surely he must be able to listen to you? :-\
Ok, you won't know if he's acted but at least then you know you've flagged the issue.
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as someone else said, the issue is also the 'hidden' sugar, not just in ready meals but in things like bread (and wine ::)). I can't just live on meat, fish and fresh veggies, I do need some bread.
Don't take sugar in my tea and have stopped drinking any canned fizzy drinks, but I do like my few squares of dark chocolate daily and life's too short and difficult to forego all sugar.
First it was no eggs, then no fat, then suddenly it's all no sugar. Moderation in anything except cigarettes?
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Since peri kicked in, I have an awful sweet tooth :P In fact I think I'm addicted because I do crave something sweet frequently. No, I'm not overweight or thirsty, just love sweets, chocolate, biscuits etc ::)
Libby
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Most of the time I try and eat healthily. I don't have sugar in my drinks but love chocolate, cakes etc.
I can go a long while without eating them,but when I do, I have a binge and eat loads at one time.
I think the more sugar you have the more you want.
I watched a programme that said if you can stay off it then you won't want it but as soon as I start on chocolate or cake I can't stop :o.
Then I feel guilty and go back to eating healthily again.
I sometimes wonder if I have some sort of eating disorder as I have done this binging since childhood. :-\
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If you go along to the GP Surgery and ask to speak with the Practice Nurse or your Mum's GP, you are able to put your point over. Tell who ever you speak with that you would like it 'recognised that Mum is ……. ' . In case she asks to see her notes then it is better that the GP doesn't 'note' it but should be able to remember when your Mum goes in that you have raised the issues.
Confidentiality is a grey area as is the Data Protection Act (don't get me started >:( ) but there is nothing to say that the GP isn't allowed to listen.