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Title: Travelling with a dog
Post by: babyjane on June 15, 2015, 11:06:56 AM
Who takes their beloved pet dog with them when they go on holiday?

Our lovely boy gets looked after by a dog minder who looks after dogs in her own home along with her own dogs and he has always loved it there.  He gets stressed very easily and doesn't settle or sleep in a strange place so we stopped taking him with us 4 years ago.

Now he is getting older he still loves going to the minder's but finds the constant activity with the other dogs a bit much.  He is ok and joins in but when he comes back home he is exhausted and not too well for a few days.  We are toying with the idea of taking him with us next year but we are going to the Isle of Wight and I am wondering about the wisdom of taking him on such a long journey, especially with the ferry trip as well.

Any ideas for anyone who might have taken their dogs with them to the IOW?
Title: Re: Travelling with a dog
Post by: Greyhoundgal on June 15, 2015, 12:21:00 PM
If we go abroad we either use our local kennel or get a dog-sitter in but trips in this country include taking our two greyhounds with us.  Our girl is fine, very confident and loves everyone she meets but our male dog is extremely nervous and can get very skittish in crowds.  I assume you would be going by car?  How is he usually with car journeys?  We try and stop once an hour so they can get out, stretch their legs and have a drink.  We put plenty of duvets and cushions in the back so they can lie down.  I think the ferry crossing is quite short so not sure if you would leave him in the car or if he can get out and come on deck with you - you can usually find a quietish place to sit.  I would check with the ferry company - there might be something on their website or drop them an email.  We also try and take their own beds with us, their usual food, some treats and toys to try and keep it much like "home" as we can.  Luckily he loves being in our caravan or awning so most of our trips are in that.
Title: Re: Travelling with a dog
Post by: Scampi on June 15, 2015, 12:41:54 PM
Our holidays are usually in our caravan, so our little JRT comes with us and loves it!  She knows when we are getting ready to go and gets excited, and she sulks on the day we return home!

If we go away other than to the caravan, she either stays at home with our daughter or goes in kennels.  Bob is quite laid back - as long as she gets food and cuddles, she's happy, so we have no problems leaving her. 

Maybe your little fella would settle better with his own bed and favourite toys in 'his' packing?  Might be worth trying DAP spray to help to calm him too - Bob was travel sick due to anxiety in the car when she was young and the vet suggested trying DAP - it worked really well.  It's not cheap, but is worth considering.
Title: Re: Travelling with a dog
Post by: honeybun on June 15, 2015, 01:05:40 PM
We always take our little dog with us. Her bed and blanket comes in the back of the car along with her toys. We stop quite often and make sure the car doesn't get too hot.

When we get to our holiday destination I put her bed in our bedroom and just generally let her wander around and get used to things.
Basically if we are there she is happy.
I have also taken her on boat journeys too. Short ones that do not have an enclosed hold the dog can be left in the car. The bigger boats that have enclosed holds....the dog has to go on deck. I just tuck her under my arm as some of the stairs are very steep. We also sit outside with her.

I just couldn't ever leave her behind, she would be so unhappy.....and so would I.  ::)


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Title: Re: Travelling with a dog
Post by: CLKD on June 15, 2015, 01:13:05 PM
Our cocker travelled in the passenger seat behind me.   She had a harness which attached to the seat belt.  Once her bean bag went into the 4-door car she knew we were going somewhere  ::).  We used a book called Pets Welcome and dealt directly with the owners of the property not via an agency. Only 1 property wasn't pet friendly and we didn't stay!

The crossing to the Isle of Wight doesn't take long: even I managed it! : and dogs are allowed on deck weather permitting. However …….


Title: Re: Travelling with a dog
Post by: Dorothy on June 15, 2015, 03:33:43 PM
I've always taken my dog with me as although she gets very stressed travelling, she would be even worse left with anyone.  As others have said, own bedding, toys etc plus DAP can really help.  Do check very carefully with the place you stay to find out what they allow - I have heard of people booking 'dog friendly' places and who arrived to be told the dog was only allowed in the kitchen or hall.  Once, I nearly booked a place which claimed to allow dogs, only to find out last minute that the dog's accommodation was in an outdoor kennel half a mile from the holiday bungalow!!!
Title: Re: Travelling with a dog
Post by: honeybun on June 15, 2015, 04:01:09 PM
I generally have to pay a small amount to take the dog. There are rules and regs...ie no dogs on the furniture or bedrooms. I basically ignore that....shoot me now  ;D. I take a throw for a chair and she lies on that, she sleeps in my room but in her own bed.
I do understand why they charge though....it's due to extra cleaning costs.

Years ago we took our Golden Retreiver with us on holiday. She was only young and casting her coat like mad.
There were red rugs in the lounge area and bedroom. They were white when we left. There was no hoover provided otherwise I would have cleaned up myself.
I really don't mind paying for her...she is part of the family and a good wee soul. I always look for somewhere with an enclosed garden and she loves exploring.


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Title: Re: Travelling with a dog
Post by: babyjane on June 15, 2015, 04:33:26 PM
thank you everyone for taking the time to reply.

Dog is a good traveller, it doesn't worry him and he usually goes to sleep.  We always used to take all his own stuff but since he has got older and has some health issues he gets anxious when he doesn't know the routine or the layout or where we are in relation to him so we have not been taking him as he is generally happier with the minder he knows (but I am not happy without him).  Our daughter joked that if he was a child he could be autistic. A canine behaviouist we were talking to on holiday last week said that there is a school of thought among the doggy fraternity that some dogs might be autistic.  That is certainly what he can be like but I think the jury is out on that one still.

Anyway we always use Welcome Cottages and the places are definitely dog friendly and welcoming.  The property we have booked for next year welcomes dogs.  I booked one that does and also booked him in with his minder.  the ferry company allow dogs on deck.

As it is 15 months away it is really too early to start worrying about it (although I am having a good go) but I think I have covered all bases.  thank you again for sharing your views and ideas, it is really helpful.
Title: Re: Travelling with a dog
Post by: pj44 on June 15, 2015, 06:16:40 PM
My border collies first holiday was to the Iow. He has alot of anxiety issues takes after me. He was totally fine. Last Feb we went again and he was fine. This year after we went 4 days to lowersoft in a caravan which he has been in before but he seemed to of been totally stressed over and pulled out his fur in places places. We have been back 2 weeks now and he has stopped the pulling out of his fur. We are of to Lo W end August I am worried I don't think it's the travelling thou I know he does not really like it. It's the being in the caravan and when we go to the club in the evenings . He certainly has got far more anxious since I have moved home home. Feel sad for him. Wouldn't leave him thou as where I go he goes.
Title: Re: Travelling with a dog
Post by: pj44 on June 15, 2015, 06:21:08 PM
Meant to say you can take dogs with you on deck they can walk about on the deck with you or you can go in a section which us closed in if it is windy. I'm trying rescue remedy also herbal  calming tablets to try and calm him down as he really is very nervous most of the time lately.
Title: Re: Travelling with a dog
Post by: honeybun on June 15, 2015, 06:25:05 PM
You can also get a mild sedative for your dog if travelling is an issue.

Our travels on the parcel shelf. She has her harness on but hubby has adapted it so she can travel where she likes.
I'm sure a lot of people in cars behind us think she is just a stuffed toy, until she moves  ;D


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Title: Re: Travelling with a dog
Post by: babyjane on June 15, 2015, 08:45:07 PM
pj44 and honeybun thank you, I have successfully used Valerian drops with mine on occasions but he is not an anxious traveller, has always travelled well in the car.  It is when he is out of his comfort zone and unsure of where we are or what is going to happen which is why we have been leaving him with a trusted, familiar minder the last few years.  However last week I wasn't at all happy without him, I think it's as he is getting older I want him with me.

Thank you for the info about the enclosed dog space on the ferry as I was wondering how you manage if it is raining!  :)

Title: Re: Travelling with a dog
Post by: CLKD on June 15, 2015, 08:49:55 PM
Oh Honeybun - if the vehicle brakes suddenly she will still keep travelling even with a harness  :-\ and : :-X doesn't bare thinking about ……. some owners use a crate but I know of some sad stories with those too  :'(

If a property is regularly used for pets then it can upset your own, strange smells may be threatening which may account for the fur pulling.  I stopped using properties that charged for my dog because the place was always cleaner when we left than when we arrived  ;).

One place only allowed the dog in the 'porch' and not in the remainder of the property  :o 'welcome' I don't think!
Title: Re: Travelling with a dog
Post by: honeybun on June 15, 2015, 08:52:35 PM
The harness is bolted into the boot CLKD. It gives her just enough room to get up and turn around but there is no way she becomes a missile if we brake  ::)

Should have explained better.


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Title: Re: Travelling with a dog
Post by: CLKD on June 15, 2015, 08:54:02 PM
Phew! 'missile' being the right word  :'(  :-\
Title: Re: Travelling with a dog
Post by: pj44 on June 16, 2015, 07:32:03 AM
Babyjane. My dog is the same he travels ok. I don't think he totally likes car journey but he knows he is going somewhere nice and is with me and family so he is not too bad. I found that this last holiday he really was very stressed. He was stressed in caravan and did not like being left even with my daughters dog. But the thought of not taking him with me would upset me so much him too I'm sure. We have never been parted. I have had him 7 years.
Title: Re: Travelling with a dog
Post by: babyjane on June 16, 2015, 08:53:28 AM
The issue of strange doggy smells in the property from previous owners occurred to me last week if he had been with us he might not have liked it.  I wonder if that is why he got anxious and didn't settle when we used to take him with us.  He is very sensitive.  I will have to think seriously about all this next year. In the end it will have to be what is best for him as he will be 12 and a half by then and, of course, the situation could have totally changed by then and the decision may not be there to make.

Thank you so much for helping by your posts everyone  :thankyou:
Title: Re: Travelling with a dog
Post by: CLKD on June 16, 2015, 02:11:54 PM
You are welcome!  The thing is not to wash the bedding before going on holiday so that the smell is familiar  ;)
Title: Re: Travelling with a dog
Post by: honeybun on June 16, 2015, 03:30:44 PM
I find I have to make sure my dog has had a wee before going into a holiday house otherwise she will scent mark. If she has been then it doesn't happen thank goodness.

My dog is 12 but I don't think twice about taking her. I have always taken my dogs if we go self catering....didn't matter if they were big or small they came with us  ::)


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Title: Re: Travelling with a dog
Post by: getting_old on June 16, 2015, 07:06:21 PM
We've travelled with a couple of dogs, and learnt a lot along the way  ;)
We always take used bedding, his food plus bowls, always feed the dog as soon as we arrive (that seemed to stop the marking), walk around the house with the dog so he knows his way around, show him the door to outside so he knows where to go when he needs to go, try to arrive early in the day so he has time to settle, we take toys, throws for the furniture, etc. These days we only rent detached as the dog isn't used to neighbours.

We rented one place which was described as a detached house, only to discover that it had a permanently occupied apartment on the ground floor  >:(  We ended up staying one night because we had no choice (they'd also decided not to provide linens but didn't bother to tell the renters!!!) and none of us got any sleep.
Title: Re: Travelling with a dog
Post by: Dorothy on June 17, 2015, 07:33:27 AM
That doesn't sound like fun  :(

Worth hunting round for reviews of properties online if you can, just to check that the 'dog friendly' description matches up with the reviews. 

I give my dog Serene-um tablets before travelling and she is better with them.  Chamomile treats or chamomile oil in her food also helps keep her calm.