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Menopause Discussion => All things menopause => Topic started by: honorsmum on February 14, 2015, 09:46:58 AM

Title: Retching.
Post by: honorsmum on February 14, 2015, 09:46:58 AM
Does anyone else get morning retching from changes to hormones?

The last 6 or 7 weeks, I've had the odd bout of getting up and then retching after I've gone downstairs. It first happened a couple of days before a period, and has happened again this morning (I suspect my period is due this weekend, if last month's cycle is anything to go by).

I never suffered morning sickness, but I suspect it's similar - once I've stopped retching, I feel better.
It seems to coincide with waking up early with my heart racing and adrenaline pumping, so maybe it's all connected - hormones = palpitations = adrenaline = retching?

Does anyone else get it?
Title: Re: Retching.
Post by: Kathleen on February 14, 2015, 10:23:46 AM
Hello honorsmum.

Yes I used to get this, first thing every morning I'd need to go into the bathroom and retch, I wondered if I'd be sick but never was and I'd feel better after. A friend of mine experienced the same thing.  There was also a time when I felt as if I was suffering from morning sickness and I remember thinking how strange that was as I'd never had that with my pregnancies.

I think retching is another symptom of changing hormones and I hope this phase passes quickly for you.

Wishing you well and take care.

K. 
Title: Re: Retching.
Post by: Briony on February 14, 2015, 10:29:48 AM
Yes, me too. Last time I was on the motorway driving home from work when it happened. It scared me so much as I thought I'd crash. It coincided with a bad migraine too. Metoclipromide (sp) has helped. Now I take it in advance if I get 'that feeling'. Good luck - hope yours goes soon. Mine seems to go as quickly and randomly as it starts x
Title: Re: Retching.
Post by: honorsmum on February 14, 2015, 10:34:26 AM
Thank you, Kathleen.

It's only happened 4 or 5 times, thankfully, and seems to follow a disturbed night - last night, I woke up feeling very hot and nauseous, and then my heart racing woke me up at just after 6am with adrenaline as well.

I have a headachey feeling now (I rarely get headaches usually).

Thanks Briony. Fortunately, it only seems to happen just after I get up and go downstairs. I have to clear my throat, and then it starts. Lasts a few minutes, eyes streaming, and then it passes. My poor dogs were desperate for their breakfast, barking at me as I was bent double over the kitchen sink!
Title: Re: Retching.
Post by: Mrs January on February 14, 2015, 10:46:31 AM
Hi Honorsmum

So sorry to hear you have this symptom...do you live alone?? I always find it worse when we are ill and live alone (  I do live with my two teenagers but they are rarely home)

Hugs

Mrs January xx
Title: Re: Retching.
Post by: honorsmum on February 14, 2015, 10:51:23 AM
Hi Honorsmum

So sorry to hear you have this symptom...do you live alone?? I always find it worse when we are ill and live alone (  I do live with my two teenagers but they are rarely home)

Hugs

Mrs January xx

Thank you, Mrs January.
No, I have 2 children and a lovely husband. He usually gets up first and brings me tea in bed, sorts the children for school etc - but I get up at the weekends and let him sleep in.
Title: Re: Retching.
Post by: CLKD on February 14, 2015, 06:31:04 PM
I had this on the 1st contraceptive pill I was prescribed …….

I also dry retch when my anxiety is controlling me  :-\
Title: Re: Retching.
Post by: CLKD on February 21, 2015, 07:38:03 PM
Any improvement?
Title: Re: Retching.
Post by: honorsmum on February 21, 2015, 07:47:59 PM
I haven't had it happen again since I posted, CLKD.
It seems to happen when my anxiety is high first thing in the morning, and maybe that, in turn, is to do with hormone fluctuations?
Title: Re: Retching.
Post by: CLKD on February 21, 2015, 08:04:22 PM
When I was deeply afraid and anxious I had dry heaving …….  :-X
Title: Re: Retching.
Post by: honorsmum on February 21, 2015, 08:14:01 PM
I don't feel anxious, insofar as I'm not worrying about anything. It's in no way mental, purely physical - some mornings, I wake up early and immediately the adrenaline kicks in until I get up. That's why I think it's hormonal and purely chemical.
Funnily enough, I remember my twin sister being sick in the morning quite often for a period of time when we were in our early teens - maybe that was hormones, too?  :-\
Title: Re: Retching.
Post by: honeybun on February 21, 2015, 09:23:32 PM
Have you tried treating it like morning sickness.

Dry biscuit at the side of the bed and nibble before you lift your head from the pillow. Hubby to bring a cuppa.
Oh heck I remember those days....head down the loo first thing if you forgot the biscuit.

Sea bands can also help.....most chemists have them ...they work on acupuncture points.


Honeyb
X
Title: Re: Retching.
Post by: bev567901 on February 21, 2015, 11:23:49 PM
Nausea & gaggy feelings have been my worst symptoms so far. It's just like pregnancy for me with smells etc, even taking a paracetomal can be hard. All the things I had in pregnancy have come back minus the baby!   It's funny as the last 6 mths my husband has been the same he can't clean up after the dogs, he must be menopausal too. He was sick in a plant pot last week on the front door step as the cat had gutzed his breakfast & it returned. Thankfully since HRT I'm much hardier!!! Xx

Title: Re: Retching.
Post by: jedigirl on February 22, 2015, 08:42:38 AM
Hi,
Yes severe retching was a symptom i had before HRT, not just in the morning ,though it was at it's worst then.
It was definitely affected by anxiety too as my worst days were the days i woke up fearful and panicky. Some days it would come on later out of the blue , very much like a chemical reaction, the same as the anxiety can suddenly come or go.
I do think it's a hormonal reaction as I haven't been as extreme as that since being on HRT even on anxious days.  I have days when i feel nauseous and I think those days would have been the retching days if my hormones weren't more in check with the HRT.
Not a pleasant symptom at all  xxx
Title: Re: Retching.
Post by: dazned on February 22, 2015, 09:05:02 AM
Yes I 've had tag t too, in fact like you said it feels like extreme morning sickness but not pregnant,very weird,but I suppose the hormones are all over the place like in pregnancy guess that might explain it .
Title: Re: Retching.
Post by: CLKD on February 22, 2015, 01:35:33 PM
Oh Bev., I was OK with our own pets [but not human sick] but can't clear up any other pet mess  ::) and as for smells: when on Tamoxifen ALL smells were acute ……….
Title: Re: Retching.
Post by: BrightLight on February 22, 2015, 11:29:01 PM
I have had the retching - similar to yourself, when I have awoken in the morning with the adrenalin rushing around, it's horrible.  Yes, better after I calm and compose myself.

Recently I have been getting nausea as well, no appetite and have had success with stemming it with herbal teas such as ginger tea or liquorice tea.
   
Title: Re: Retching.
Post by: Meg on February 23, 2015, 02:56:27 AM
I have had horrible morning sickness symptoms.  Like you I am seriously fed up with it.  It is more isolating when your doctor says she has never heard of such a symptom of menopause.  It is obvious that many many women suffer like this.

Meg
Title: Re: Retching.
Post by: nelliedee on February 23, 2015, 11:30:06 AM
I find ginger biscuits help me, currently eating one  ::) x
Title: Re: Retching.
Post by: honorsmum on February 23, 2015, 12:00:54 PM
Reassuring to know it's not just me.
Strange thing is, I never suffered from morning sickness in either of my pregnancies, just nausea.

I don't get any warning it's going to happen - it just happens suddenly, and lasts a few minutes and then I'm fine.
Title: Re: Retching.
Post by: nelliedee on February 23, 2015, 02:26:37 PM
Mine is usually mornings x
Title: Re: Retching.
Post by: honorsmum on February 23, 2015, 03:19:46 PM
Mine is usually mornings x

Always mornings for me too, but only once or twice a month for the last couple.
Title: Re: Retching.
Post by: BrightLight on February 23, 2015, 03:26:16 PM
I've just remembered that during my periods I used to loose my appetite for the first day and feel nauseas. Perimenopause magnifies all sorts of PMT symptoms doesn't it? Some that I never had before. The retching must be a combination of the increased anxiety and stomach issues. I read somewhere that hormones can change the balance of chemical reactions in the stomach, hence the nausea.

It's all down to wild fluctuations in hormones I think. Horrible surprises.
Title: Re: Retching.
Post by: Westland girl on June 18, 2015, 06:59:47 AM
I suffer with anxiety and seem to spend my day trying nit to retch
It's worse when I go out can anyone help please xx
Title: Re: Retching.
Post by: CLKD on June 18, 2015, 09:41:33 AM
Firstly -  :welcomemm:

Could your GP give you an anti-anxiety med., i.e. Valium - to take on an 'as necessary' basis?  I used Valium this way before Events that I was unable to avoid and din't get addicted because I knew it worked for me.
Title: Re: Retching.
Post by: pepperminty on June 19, 2015, 07:50:16 AM
Hi ,

yes I has retching and nausea for 2 years every morning , it was horrendous , so I sympathise . I didn't connect it with the menopause at the time. I would have a cup of tea and throw up. taking half a Zantac helped and having a bit of carbohydrate before bedtime. Also sucking ginger lozenges for pregnant women helped , and trying not to panic about it .
I hope you feel better soon.