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General Discussion => This 'n' That => Topic started by: Hattie on December 18, 2014, 10:11:49 AM
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Do any of you ladies still get doorstep milk delivery ? -just thinking i used to give a xmas present to our milkman who sadly for several years now has not come to us anymore as the delivery was stopped by the local dairy - we are in a rural area.
Prices were always higher bottle delivered - almost double - than the supermarket but i used to support the dairy by having some of our milk delivered.
Years ago we used to have all green top - unpasteurised - delivered. i still have xmas 'bell' decorations threaded on wool made with the tops for the xmas tree done by my kids at playgroup.
Hattie X
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Stopped mine about 3 years ago. The deliveries were quite late so when I was working it used to sit on the doorstep and cook in the summer (or get nicked). Dairy went online so started doing my orders that way but if the Milkman missed me I had to prove it instead of just telling him. That was the final straw. No point paying more for a worse service. Now get 4 pint plastic bottles from the supermarket.
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Sadly we buy ours from the supermarket or village shop. However, supermarket milk makes better milk-shake bubbles - very important when I'm in my bath ;D
We had a dairy near by but again, milk stood on the step and was yoghurt by evening. I don't like milk anyway ……. DH makes porridge for breakfast.
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I get my milk delivered, have done for few years. Our service is great, it gets delivered about 4.30 am sometimes earlier! that's what i like about it so i dont have to panic about no milk for porridge in morning. The boys are great and i always tip them at xmas. We have a porch that is like a fridge summer and winter and they sit it in the nice cold spot in summer.
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With a husband who works away erratically, and a daughter who often doesn't know from one day to the next when she'll be at home (uni and friends!), our milk usage isn't consistent or predicable enough to get it delivered!
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I have been getting it delivered for the past year. It's great to know that I always have milk!
Bramble
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It's nice to know that some is still being delivered - i would have carried on with it given the opportunity ours was coming from a small dairy - it had to snow really heavily for our milkman to ever let us down.
Since living here we have lost the milk delivery, shop and post office and the pub which closed for over 2 years - the pub now provides a small shop supplied by their cater van for the pub and a chap from the main post office comes once a week for a morning.
All sign of the times i guess when you can do most of it online now - although my husband always seems to be popping out for milk and stamps now ;)
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We still have ours delivered because I would hate for the service to stop but at almost 80p a pint it is expensive. Our dairy still uses glass bottles which I really like but during the next year they are being phased out and plastic cartons will be used instead.
Taz x
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Like you Hattie ours stopped years ago (can't even remember how long ago) because we are in a rural area. I would so much prefer to have a doorstep delivery because the glass bottles are re-used rather than in plastic. Not only that I hate having to buy milk in plastic bottles because of the plasticisers in them which are what is known as "Xenoestrogens" and are having a detrimental effect on the environment not to mention unquantified and unknown effects on our own bodies.
When the delivery first stopped I used to buy organic milk from a local dairy from the supermarket in waxed cartons (ie tetrapacks which can be re-cycled like plastic can) - still cheaper than bottled milk - but none of the milk suppliers use these any more even the organic ones - all in plastic bottles. :(
Oh no Taz - that is terrible! So you will pay more money for a local service and get the plasticisers too! What a shame and I suppose it saves money from all the washing and sterilising....
Hurdity x
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Supermarket these days. Think only one neighbour still gets milk delivered. Ours kept being attacked by birds.
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The birds only attacked the silver top bottles where we are - they quickly learnt that semi-skimmed was in the red-topped bottles and left them alone. Canny things these birds! We used to leave empty yoghurt pots outside and the milkman would pop them on top of the full cream bottles.
Katsclaws - which dairy supplies your milk?
Taz x
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I would enjoy getting milk from a local farm, but over here in the town I got fed up of milk on the doorstep being costly and turning sour and not lasting long enough in the fridge. We switched to supermarket milk and have not loooked back since.
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There have been several newspaper articles on the dairy industry lately - here is one of them
http://www.theguardian.com/science/2015/jan/12/dairy-industry-crisis-falling-milk-prices-national-farmers-union
something doesn't feel right - some land a few miles from us was bought a few years ago and a dairy farm started up with a lot of investment in buildings etc. We have watched when we have gone out that way for a walk how intensively it is managed and how the herd has grown each year. This year the herd suddenly looked massive and i wondered how they were going to be housed in the winter - bit upsetting last week to see part of the herd outside in a deep muddy field being fed from stalls - a field that needs to recover for the grass in the spring. They had gone today when we walked by - i don't know where but you don't half feel guilty walking by a forlorn herd of cows when you know the price of milk now.
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You could have phoned the National Farmers' Union, local Vets., Environment Agency or RSPCA …… farms were going to be HUGE a few years ago, 1,000 beasts at a time. Supposedly kept so that they could go in and out when they wanted to ………. imagine that in a F&M outbreak :'(
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I did think of doing that CLKD but held back - my former self might have done but i don't go looking for trouble nowadays.
I wouldn't be suprised to see this farm go under.
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Would be a shame. Taking milk away from being local and centering the sterilisation etc. is where the potential customer lost out …...
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Sadly, we haven't had any deliveries of milk for a long time and we buy it at the village shop. Sadly the village shop is now under threat as the owners wish to move on and have been unable to sell the business as a going concern and are looking to apply to have it changed to residential. We have a village meeting soon to look at the options. A couple of nearby villages are running their own shops as a community business. I suspect that will be discussed.
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We lost our village shop years ago. People in my village love to complain, in fact I think they could complain for Scotland. They complain about the lack of a shop but did not support it while it was there. The post office has gone too.
We have a garage that sells a few bits and bobs, a Chinese Take away, a hairdresser is opening soon, and a plumber, oh and a deli which has only opened recently ......I give that six months max.
I hope you manage to keep your shop Ju Ju. It's the heart of a village.
Honeyb
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We have a village shop, a PO/shop, Church, Chapel, GP Surgery; a couple of halls that can rented for activities. Woodland and long walks ……. closed town is 4 miles away in one direction, 7 in the other. Bus route several times a day through here ………
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A town surely, CLKD! We have a pub, which has had a new lease of life with new owners, buses about 3 a day, but not useful if you need to get to school or work, a beautiful church, village hall, walks in any direction. When we first moved here, they held a doctors surgery twice a week in the pub! Now we have to travel to the nearest town, 3 miles away, which incidentally has half the population of our village. Lots going on in the village though. Lovely, beautiful place to live.
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We have a little church and a village hall. No doctors though. It's five miles away in our nearest town.
Ours is a funny village. They don't like incomers and the favourite activity is complaining ::)
Honeyb
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We have a little church and a village hall. No doctors though. It's five miles away in our nearest town.
Ours is a funny village. They don't like incomers and the favourite activity is complaining ::)
Honeyb
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I didn't know you lived in my village! ;D ;)
No milk delivery here but know someone in another village who has milk delivered and she uses an old coolbox which stops the birds pecking the tops and also keeps the milk cool if it comes when she is out.
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We have a pretty good ambulance service. One hospital is 15 miles the other is 25.
I couldn't live somewhere really busy. I like the quietness of the coast and countryside.
Honeyb
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I live near HB and use same hospitals, it's not as bad as it sounds really and the ambulance service is quick In our area. We are in quiet cleaky villages but I couldn't live in a busy area either. I love when I've been to the city shopping and drive home and when you get to the country roads you really appreciate the surroundings.
Milk almost frozen this morning!
X
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Does anyone remember the blue tits on the foil tops, pecking them to get to the cream?
Never felt isolated however deeply in the countryside we have lived: in Wales we had a quarter of a mile walk to the phone box and were on the snow line. Now we have good neighbours if necessary . We have Air Ambulance if the worst happens, paramedics to hand …….. I would HATE to live in a busy environment.
Our nearest Hospitals are 9, 15 and 20 miles away - when I had radiation treatment I travelled a 36 round daily trip for a 6 mins session ::)
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Does anyone remember the blue tits on the foil tops, pecking them to get to the cream?
Bit sad that this will now become a memory - imho things change but not always for the better.
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Astrantia Hattie?
I wonder where the 1st bluetit found that cream was under that lid?
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Yes got one in my garden - memory from a visit somewhere.
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They die back at this time of year, we have several which I love. Ran out of space to plant any more though ::) ……. Astrantia 'Ruby' is my favourite.
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Mine is a pink one and white one - i can't remember the variety - i got it when i went to a gardens open day. A lot of my plants in the garden are linked to a memory of some sort.
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Most of mine are linked but I don't always remember from where/whom ::)
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Didn't do us any harm! When times is tuff everything was used including the top off the milk which we argued over ……… didn't think about where their beaks might have been ;D
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Magpies eat carrion so more risky than blue tits. Should be ok if you boil the milk first anyway. Or provide something to stick on top of the milk bottles to stop it happening.
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Bluetits have been found to carry campylobacter apparently. Mine don't attack semi-skimmed bottles so we don't get any problems.
How blue tits knew about the cream.. http://www.britishbirdlovers.co.uk/articles/blue-tits-and-milk-bottle-tops
Taz x
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Interesting Taz.
So the bottled doorstep delivery could be kept but without silver tops.
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It's to do with cost I think not bird-pecking though http://www.thegrocer.co.uk/buying-and-supplying/end-of-an-era-dairy-crest-prepares-to-wave-goodbye-to-milk-in-glass-bottles/371795.article
Taz x
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The link won't open - yet ::)
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Lot of comments on that last link as to why people keep up a doorstep delivery and don't see the plastic as any different than getting it from the supermarket.
End of an era coming.
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What's the bet that once door step milk bottles have gone, the 'posher' supermarkets will add glass bottle milk to their de luxe range of foods at twice the price?
Have they actually done any research into WHY consumers buy/don't buy from their milkman? Where I lived before, I could have had my milk delivered, but I had to order a minimum of 5 pints a week - as I only get through 2-3 a week, this wasn't practical for me, though I would have loved to have ordered otherwise.
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Same here. There was a minimum order which we wouldn't have drunk in 2 weeks ::) ……… so the milk company weren't doing themselves any favours the argument was that it wasn't worth delivering only 1 pint per household per day - well they went out of business shortly afterwards ::)
I have to say that milk from different outlets keeps better than others ……… and I'm talking 7-8 days for the same product rather than 1-1 and a half days :-\
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My milk gets delivered in plastic bottles - 4pts one day and 2 pints a few days later. Organic milk. It is such a luxury to have milk in the fridge all the time. I love it. I bought around the same time as starting deliveries, an electric milk heater and nespresso coffee machine. My luxury now is a nespresso coffee every day with hot frothy milk! Little things.................! I know how to live!
Bramble
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Organic milk from where :-\ ………….. don't say cows ::) ;)
I had a very nice hot chocolate from a machine today, a treat because usually machines don't give up good chocolate drinks!
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I just buy from the supermarket although we do have deliveries in our area. They are just too expensive.
I always have milk in the fridge as if I watch the use by dates I can buy almost a weeks worth at the one time.
Honeyb
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Organic milk from where :-\ ………….. don't say cows ::) ;)
'We deliver a full range of fresh dairy milk direct to your doorstep. Serving homes and businesses with local milkmen and local milk working across Central Scotland. We try our best to source your milk locally and give farmers a better price than supermarkets. '
Milk is available in glass bottles if you wish.
Bramble
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Thanks. How close is 'local' though - we went to a restaurant a couple of years ago and asked how local the food was, a well-named supermarket was named ;D