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Menopause Discussion => Other Health Discussion => Topic started by: moonbeam121167 on July 05, 2014, 06:56:18 PM
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Evening all
I have IBS not taking nothing at the minute but finding I am having terrible nausea again plus aching pains in my left side and a bloaty stomach, I am currently on Imipramine 25mg for neck pain and on Estradot 100mg, I am going to GP on Tuesday but was told to try Colpermin, when I was told I have IBS I was given Esomperazole and Colofac but a. I never took the Colofac and B. stopped the Esomperazole as I found i was not better on it but lately the nausea and pain is getting worse, tried different herbal stuff but never helped, probiotics help a bit but my poor stomach needs some more help, anyone have any advice please
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The pain that I have on my lower left hand side has been diagnosed as as diverticulitis. These are pouches in your bowel that collect food matter and can get infected. Lovely stuff.....Not. I control mine through diet. It's really a case of trial. and error. You would have to have this diagnosed though, but it's classic pain.
I have had a bit of a flare and ended up on Colpermin and Mebaravine. The combination was quite good. I had awful wind pains and they eased it a lot. I have figured out what was wrong with me and it was self inflicted. Now I know what I have been doing wrong and have stopped it I can come off the pills.
Not sure what you can try for the nausea though but maybe the Colpermin might help. It's good for trapped wind as they are peppermint based. One of the side effects though is heartburn.
Honeyb
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honeybun, I have tried peppermint caps but they repeated on me big time but is the Colpermin better, does this diverticulitis cause back pain, I start my day with crunchy nut with red top milk, about 10.30am I have a cup of chamomile with a banana, 2 pots of activia yoghurts for lunch but thats around 12pm as I work as a dinner lady, then when I get home I have a pkt crisps with some coleslaw and then around 5.30pm I have tea , then at about 9pm I have a cup of chamomile and some blueberries, i normally drink 2 cups of decaf tea a day, in between that I have one or two pots of actimel drinks , is there anything in my diet I should add or take away which could help
thanks for your help
Caroline xx
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The Colpermin has to be taken up to an hour before food. I don't think it will do much unless you suffer from bloating. I did fine on them, they really got rid of my bloating....ie, they make you fart...Sorry if TMI.
The meberivene helps with pain. It stops cramping and discomfort.
Your diet sounds ok.
When I have a flare I go on a white diet. Fish,potatoes,rice,chicken....until it settles and then add in other stuff. You could try a food diary and see if you have trigger foods.
Diverticulitis is pain in the lower left abdomen. It's tender when you press gently on it when you are lying down.
Honeyb
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I dont suffer major bloating, so maybe Colofac would be better. The pain starts around my back and then comes around the left hand side , when i press my side it is uncomfortable, its like someone is sticking a knife under my left hand ribs, and I feel sick and hot and yuck !! when I normally go to the toilet (poo) it can be 3 ,4 or 5 times a day but this last day or 2 its maybe twice and can be a strain, I feel I have got one thing sorted EG my HRT and then bang something else happens, it depresses me big time, I am 47 yrs old but feel 100, its not fair :'(
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Have you a sympathetic GP that you can talk to. Sometimes I get in a bit of a mess with my IBS and think I can treat it myself when really I need some help and a change of meds.
My GP always suggests another way to deal with things.
I have also seen an alternative medicine practitioner and I use that kind of thing to maintain things when I am ok.
I really think you should talk to someone about this. The danger is we start self diagnosing and treating things with over the counter stuff when what we need is a proper diagnosis and one treatment.
Diverticulitis only gives abdominal pain and not back pain.
Honeyb
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I have finally got a fab GP which I am seeing Tuesday, he actually listens and talks in depth which is great, yes for me GOOGLE is the worse, I shall takes some paracetamols before I go to bed and try and cope till Tuesday, which isnt to long, I do thank you for listening to me moan :) :) :) :)
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No bother, I know just how miserable stomach problems can be and how much they can dominate your life.
Tuesday is not long to wait. I hope you can get something to help.
Let us know how you get on.
Honeyb
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Indeed I will
Caroline
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Honeybun
just come back from seeing the doctor, he has changed me back to Amitriptyline 10mg to be used for 2 weeks then increase to 20mg, he said hopefully they will help your headaches and neck pain but they could also help with your IBS, also he has given me Colofac and I have to take them 3 times a day 20 mins before food but also gave me metoclopramide for nausea, I was on Domperidone but he said they have been stopped cause there is a fear of heart attacks with them, not sure how to take the new ones, with the other ones it used to be 20mins before food but it doesnt say that on the new ones, can you help, I will take the Amitrptyline at 9pm every night, upon waking I will take a Colofac and then 20mins before lunch and then the same before tea, but were will I take the metoclopramide, sorry to be a pest, thanks
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Metoclopramide pushes food through your stomach quicker. I don't have a specific time that I take mine but I guess just after you eat would be fine.
I get on fine with them but only take occasionally, they work really well if you feel sick.
Let me know how you get on.
Honeyb
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Honeybun
thanks for your help :)
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Late to this thread. When I was diagnosed with IBS in 199something the GP gave me Colpermin peppermint capsules and Motillium. Colpermin helps ease upper gut wind and other medications help fast forward the gut spasms to encourage food to pass through.
I had Domperidome - in fact I have a drawer full ::) ……. which helped enormously. I had to take 3 small tablets at a time: the idea was to take both medications within the hour before eating my main meals including breakfast - which meant setting the alarm first thing ::) and after 3 weeks I was able to drop the early morning call. Those medications saved my Life.
How are you now? My biggest problem were his parents >:( who would tell us that lunch would be served at 12.30 p.m. but then not begin cooking it until 1.30 …….. so I had to take my own food for several years because I had to take the medication within that hour.
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CLKD,
I got on ok with Domperidone but the GP said they dont give it out no more cause of the risks of heart attacks so he gave me metoclopramide instead, but on the instruction it says just take 3 times a day , nothing about before eating, so do you have any ideas, I will take the Colofac upon waking cause I dont eat for about a hour, then the 2nd 20 mins before lunch and then the last 20 mins before tea but the metoclopramide not sure whens best, have you or anyone out there had any experiences of these ones and when to take them , between this blinking IBS and the headaches I feel like screaming or crying or both ,j ust hope this lot of pills will help and I can get back to normal :)
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I would take them after breakfast and then before lunch and dinner. It really doesn't matter much to be honest.
This is what they give you before an operation to make sure your not sick.
Some people don't get on with them at all. They can make you feel a bit strange.
Honeyb
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Honeybun
thats what worries me with them, the side effects, I dont have any with Domperidone, afraid now , do I try one, I have to change from Imiprimine back to Amitriptyline and that can cause me to feel funny for a few weeks without the metoclopramide as well or shall I wait and get over that change first, I still have Domeridone if I feel sick, I dont see the GP for another month x
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GOOGLE metoclopamide search: "Liquid, Tablet, Dissolving Tablet
"Take your medicine as directed. Your dose may need to be changed several times to find what works best for you.
"Take this medicine on an empty stomach, 30 minutes before each meal and at bedtime, unless your doctor tells you differently.
"Make sure your hands are dry before you handle the disintegrating tablet. Peel back the foil from the blister pack, then remove the tablet. Do not push the tablet through the foil. Place the tablet in your mouth. After it has melted, swallow or take a drink of water ..."
I would give your surgery a ring tomorrow or speak with a Pharmacist for advice. There is a note on the above to say that some people have motion problems initially. How much Domperidone do you take? I found Kwells as good for short term use though they did make me sleep ::)
let us know how you get on!
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Oh heck, don't ever let them melt in your mouth. They taste worse than anything you could possibly imagine. The taste never goes away.
You will probably be fine. I have problems tolerating most meds but these are fine. They make my son a bit light headed but that's it. They will help your stomach without a doubt and then you will generally feel better.
Honeyb
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Honeybun this could be a different packaging system than you had ;)
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If it's a little white pill then swallow it quickly otherwise you will have a taste that no words can describe.
Honeyb
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I did google Metoclopamide and the side effects and reviews was quiet scarey, I know we are all different but it does scare me, if it wasnt for the fact I have to change the Imiprimane to amitriptyline , I think it wouldnt be so bad but that can have some side effects in its self, so if I do them all together I wouldn't know what causing the side effects, so maybe I will do the IM to AM change first once thats done I will give the metoclopamide a go, what do you think 8)
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I guess it's a case of treating the worse thing first. Your headaches could be making you feel sick as bad headaches often do.
Perhaps if you get them under control then you wouldn't need anything else at all.
I do agree that you really won't know what's happening if you take everything at once.
Honeyb
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Yes the headaches are my first to sort out as they are or can be very painful, and as the GP said Amitriptyline can help IBS so it may also help that to, I will have to increased the dose after 2 weeks to 20mg and hopefully this time round it will help, along with the physio and if after I have sorted that out and still have the nausea then I can try the metoclopamide, sounds like a plan, thanks Honeybun and CLKD for listening :) :)
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You are welcome! A spoonful of honey can soothe an upset tim too ……….. it's the only foodstuff that can't go 'off' ;) and is used for many medical reasons.
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O yuck I hate honey, the only thing I can tolerate it in is lockets for a sore throat, but if someone said take it and you will feel better I would thanks xx
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Lots of people find honey too sweet. But it is useful!
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Bit drastic but I had a colonoscopy which diagnosed IBS (I had/have the constipation kind) and then a complete diet change. I'm sure the 'total clear out' helped too. No wheat, pulses, cabbagey veg, lentils etc. Also no fruits high in fructose. For some luckless souls (not me, thank goodness) no dairy.
touch wood I've had no pain and bloating issues since, but the diet is annoyingly restrictive. Called low FODmap (aussie medical researchers).
I also take 2 tblspoons of ground linseed every morning.
The diet excludes honey completely. The fructose can aggravate the bowel. Syrup is allowed. I mix it in with oatmeal porridge and it's delicious. I couldn't eat it on its own with (gluten free) bread though.
As for domperidone, I have some although don't need to take it nearly as often as in the past. GP didn't raise any scare issues with it in therapeutic doses (?).
Years ago I spent lots of money on both colpermin and colofac and neither worked for me.