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Menopause Discussion => All things menopause => Topic started by: Kelly on May 30, 2014, 05:51:16 PM
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I have been suffering since March with a sore red throat, rough itchy tongue and roof of mouth. It's been so bad I have taken time off from work, don't socialise and generally feel miserable all the time . I have seen an ENT consultant and oral surgeon who both said my throat was fine. The ENT even said stop thinking of your throat ! Easier said than done when its on fire! I have had countless antibiotics and thrush treatment but on one visit mentioned i had been having heartburn trouble as well and now I am having an endoscopy on Tuesday. My female doctor said no way could this be related to the menopause but is she wrong ? Is anyone out there having similar trouble . I am miserable and my life has stopped ! Now thinking of cancelling holidays! My bad throat just never goes away! I want my life back! I am 54 and although I had a few bouts of cystitis at the beginning of the menopause 3years ago I thought that was it .!
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Heartburn is a horrid thing. I was diagnosed with nervous dyspepsia years before meno. Have you tried any over the counter meds to see if they help although you may need something stronger.
Gaviscon liquid or Zantac could be a starting point.
Look at your diet as there are trigger foods.
When I have a flare up I go back to my "white" diet.
Fish, chicken,rice,pasta,potatoes. And so on it goes. Bland, bland bland.
Digestive problems are common in meno.
You have nothing to loose by adjusting your diet and taking Zantac.
Eventually I went down the alternative route but that takes a long while.
Honeyb
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Hey Kelly
I too have the sore throat feeling...I have a drink with me all the time, and some boiled sweets that I suck if to hurts too much...didn't know it could be due to Peri but guess anything is possible. My job involves me taking at length to children and young people and sometimes I have to pause for an extra drink
Take care
Mrs January
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Thanks for your replies hopefully the endoscophy will help me .Taking gaviscon but red raw throat all the time is driving me crazy and I don't want to go anywhere or do anything. Not interested in eating much at all honeybun. Just very low and miserable at the moment . I have emailed Dr Currie for help .
Mrs January that sounds like a condition teachers are prone.
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So sorry to hear what you having to deal with Kelly especially when you would think the doctors would know :( Has anyone mentioned allergies to any type of food or drink? Usually its tomatoes for me...silly cause i love them but even spaghetti sauce starts my tongue burning painfully. i never had anything like this until i was approaching my late forties and heading towards meno. Anyway good luck and i do hope you can get it sorted soon. xx
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You would obviously have to have it diagnosed but it sounds like GERD to me.
I don't usually suggest googling anything but if you look at the NHS website it gives good information.
It can be treated but you really need a diagnosis and treatment.
It's diet related but needs medication to get things sorted out.
After years of medication I decided to go down the natural route but GERD needs medical intervention before any damage is done.
Honeyb
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Hopefully the endoscopy will confirm it and I can get treatment. A lot of web sites relate Gerd to the menopause. I certainly never had anything like this until my fifties. Why are we never warned about any of these things?
There is no menopause nurse at my surgery and its often difficult to see a female doctor . Thanks Honey bun .would welcome any advice on the natural route .xx
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I think you need to get a proper diagnosis first before trying natural stuff. I had an endoscopy and a barium swallow and spent a good few years on PPIs before I eventually went the alternative route.
If it is GERD then you need meds to get things to heal properly.
I did have these problems long before meno and now I struggle occasionally but manage to maintain things normally.
Honeyb
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Thanks sparkle i can really relate to your symptoms but I thought I had got through the menopause because I hadn't had a period for three years. Do you get funny sensations on your tongue and the roof of your mouth? They drive me mad too. The docs think its just a sore throat don't they. they don't realise that you don't want to go anywhere or do anything when you have it day after day. One even asked me if thing were okay at home! well they would be if I didn't have a sore throat all the time! Bit concerned that you are not sorted out after eighteen months. That frightens me! Are you functiong okay,socialising and working with the symptoms or not? I hope you are managing to have a life as I know what a nightmare it is. Let us know how you get on at the Ent.appointment.
I have asked for the sedation so hopefully kill get it as I am not looking forward to it at all !!
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My tongue scratches the roof of my mouth continually due to allergic rhinitis which can begin at any age. Beconase nasal spray helps. As do new anti-allergy pillows which have cleared symptoms at night almost completely.
Acid reflux is definitely meno-related. As oestrogen levels drop so does muscle tone which can affect the oesophagus ….. and hiatus hernias are 'common' in ladies of a 'certain' age. So antacids will ease symptoms.
I can no longer eat jam! probably due to the pectin in the product. My mouth, behind my teeth etc. burns immediately.
Let us know how you get on!
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It is more prevalent in meno but I had acid reflux and my investigations done long before meno.
I suffered dreadfully with heartburn in my last two pregnancies and I think damage was done then.
The GPs that I saw were very happy to give me prescriptions for increasingly strong medication. I insisted that I had tests and went privately for an endoscopy and biopsy. All was clear, no hiatus hernia and no ulcers and no GERD. More pills were given and I became more and more dependent.
I eventually got a referral to another private consultant. He told me I was in a vicious circle. The more pills I took the more I needed and the more side effects I would have. The side effects were heartburn and the runs :o
At that point after about ten years I had had enough. I went to an alternative practitioner and he helped me get off the pills that were blighting my life. It took a long while and a few miserable months before I got better. The bowel damage had been done and I then had IBS. Again I treated it with natural medicine.
I now generally manage things very well. I have flare ups and sometimes need a couple of days of prescription meds but I am soon back on the alternatives.
I wish I had known what could happen as I took my PPIs. I would not have started them at all.
It is important to get a proper diagnosis and then make a decision from there.
Honeyb
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I find that if I eat late at night then try to sleep ::) heartburn strikes >:( which necessitates antacids.
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Hi ladies I kept getting indigestion and discomfort under ribs so Was sent sent for an endoscopy (I also had sedation) and found I had a hiatus hernia which I control by taking gaviscon only when I need to and don't have anything to eat 2 hours before bedtime and find it helps I got a sore throat and thought I was getting a cold after a few days it just went I put it down to the acid in stomach hence the acid reflux which is very strong and comes up from the asophogus and can feel like its. Ironing your throat doctors was going to prescribe ranitidine but I didn't fancy taking it every day so I watch what I eat .whether it's anything to do with meno may be I never suffered with indigestion before
Js
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Hi ladies well everyone was right and the endoscopy was okay with the sedation. I have a small hiatus hernia and patchy oesophagus but as specialist nurses do the test nowadays there was no. Doctor to speak to afterwards. I have to go to my surgery tomorrow. They wouldn't prebook me an appointment so its back to the eight in the morning ringing trying to get through again! I consulted Dr Heather and she seems to think that low oestrogen levels can very likely cause acid reflux. I am back at Ent in a couple of weeks and I am going to write all my questions down.
Don't worry Sparkle you haven't Worried me. At the time I got the reflux I didn't have any problems at all but in the run up to Xmas I was very stressed over something and wonder if it brought it all on.
Honeybun sounds like you have had a really bad time over the years .
This site is a lifeline .xx
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Thats good Kelly you have been reassured by your endoscopy. These things are never pleasant.
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I have been suffering since March with a sore red throat, rough itchy tongue and roof of mouth. It's been so bad I have taken time off from work, don't socialise and generally feel miserable all the time . I have seen an ENT consultant and oral surgeon who both said my throat was fine. The ENT even said stop thinking of your throat ! Easier said than done when its on fire! I have had countless antibiotics and thrush treatment but on one visit mentioned i had been having heartburn trouble as well and now I am having an endoscopy on Tuesday. My female doctor said no way could this be related to the menopause but is she wrong ? Is anyone out there having similar trouble . I am miserable and my life has stopped ! Now thinking of cancelling holidays! My bad throat just never goes away! I want my life back! I am 54 and although I had a few bouts of cystitis at the beginning of the menopause 3years ago I thought that was it .!
Ive got and had sinvce I was just post meno Acid reflux it can be terribly painful almosT LIiuke Gall stones
Ive n ot had an edeoscopy a few years ago I had it for 8 m,nths daily and had scans and nothing
Though one GP said it could be Gall bladder this years not been too great either
Dont think of canning your holiday Ive had my acid reflux lmost daily since April and Im going to Paris Venice Rome etc sod that I take DONNETAB over the counter and Mylanta double strength it really help
What ever it is it will get sorted take panadols anything live your life
I know your thinkiing easy for her to say ITS NOT I HAVE VAGINAL ATROPHY and not gonna let the sod reuin m life xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx big huge hugs xxxxxxxxxx
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Thanks Suzi Q I am also on vagifem for Va too. I thought that was my only menopause symptom but sadly maybe not . It's not the heartburn thats stopping me living my life it's the constant red raw throat and hoarseness. I work mornings and this is such a struggle at the moment. I can't imagine trailing round on hols with this throat. I am also very burpy while eating huh is something that has started lately.. I have been taking a lot of gaviscon and wondered if this was a side effect. Has anyone found this ? Big hugs back Suzii q
Kelly
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sparkle - don't beat yourself up you are doing what suits you right now in order to cope. We are not answerable to anyone else as to how we cope ……….. ;)
I get burning mouth with some types of preserve …….. >:(
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Oh how we felt we had to justify ourselves to others :-\ ………. no longer!
<wave> SuzyQ!
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Seen the doc today. Throats been so sore with itchy like back of tongue and mouth that I just burst into tears. I have to double up on the omprezanol to see if I get any relief but I am worried that will increase the windy burping thing I keep getting especially when eating. I have stopped gaviscon incase this is causing it. I know I have Been diagnosed with a hiatus hernia but does anyone get the itchy mouth and rough tongue with their reflux problems? I just feel like I would like someone to swab my mouth and throat to see what's there. It's making me feel very low as no one can help me and I can't get back on track with my life. I only took the omprezanol for 1 week and then had to stop it for the endoscopy . Does it take a while to work. Will this throat ever go away ? Feeling very sorry for myself today I know! It's just my first visit to docs about this was February and I still have it.!!
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Is the itchiness related to the reflux? I get this with allergic rhinitis which is a totally different condition. Wake in the night with tongue scratching the roof of my mouth and behind my teeth ::)
Have you tried raising the legs of the bed so that your legs hang down a little, therefore raising your head - I found sleeping up on pillows didn't work because I slumped over eventually and the heart-burn woke me >:(.
Also smaller, non spicy meals might help. Keeping the stomach with something in it to soak up any excess acid. When do you take the Omeprezanol? DH used to take 2 tablets at breakfast and that helped reflux for him. I don't think you need gaviscon as well as the above.
I find that Milk of Magnesia is equally useful! especially the milk rather than the tablets. Or Rennies ;-)
If your symptoms are keeping you awake you will be weepy from lack of sleep!
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Have they given you any advice at all. Diet, sleeping position.
You could Google treatment on the NHS site and perhaps research a diet that would suit you.
Definitely don't lie down. You need to prop yourself up and stay that way. It stops the acid travelling back up.
Have you looked at what you are eating, it would seem to me that's your starting point.
I always found Zantac very good. You can only get 75mg from the chemist but the doc prescribes 150 so you could double up.
Honeyb
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Have you tried sleeping with a bed wedge? I use these a lot. I have a higher one that i used after surgery when i couldnt lie flat and also a lower incline one that i use every night. Like them so much i take one when i travel.
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WAVE CLKD XXXXXXXXXX
OH sweety I wonder if like me you get so stressed or what we used to call scared feelings
I never got a sore throat I do get a cough sometimes but (I smoke yess I know!!!)
But the gut rubbish is rotten I think for me as I have white coat syndrome unless I cant cope Im not going
I take Mylanta double strength and Donnetab I end up with the TROTS as a side to Donne is runs
So I get a sore bum chum stingy using new wipes now so as to not make it even more sore and no soap on bum
Then with the sore bum chum comes the sore bits u know the bit between the bottom and fanny ahhhhhhhh
Then my back OHHH my back is unstable and one GP said u could have it pinned NOT A CHANCE MATE I said
PLUS THE GUT ACHE pain when it comes OH its not so bad today its almost 90% ok fingers crossed
Not forgetting the dreaded VA OH growing olds a bloody delight MIND the alternativer isnt an option no way
So smile chuck OK could be worse YES I know as my MUM used to say to my Dad when hed say that to her
Shed reply well I tell you what JACK go find the buggar bring them here and let me have a bloody good laugh xx
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Hi Kelly - I've had acid reflux for years (with a hiatal hernia as a bonus). I used omeprazole for a long time then switched to lansoprazole 30mg per day at the advice of my doctor, which seems to control it much better. I was able to get lansoprazole over the counter in the US but need a prescription here, and the first locum I saw here hadn't heard of it. Might be worth talking to your GP about it though.
My gastroenterologist in the US also told me it's fine to use gaviscon or zantac for "breakthrough" acid reflux (although here in the UK I think they have stern warnings about using both a proton-pump inhibitor and zantac at the same time, so use your judgement -- I do it anyway). When I get that sandpapery feeling at the back of my tongue and roof of my mouth, I usually take one or the other and it seems to do the trick.
Good luck, I know it's frustrating! :(
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Thanks ladies for all your advice. Finding out what causes it all is tricky for me as I have the sore throat all the time with frequent windy burping( lovely i know) . If I could get rid of the sore throat I feel could cope with anything else. It never goes away and therefore I can't pinpoint anything . I am off my food I have lost nine pounds so far so making myself eat small portions of whatever I am making for the family. I have a little bit of heartburn but if this is causing my sore throat the acid must be coming up at night time. My problems not simple is it! I am back at the ENT soon and I am going to ask him if he can cover every possibility that's causing it. Believe me I could fall on my knees begging him the way I have been the last two days! I can't believe I was so well at Xmas drinking wine, eating , socialising what happened ! You get so much conflicting advice. One of my doctors said tea is fine just keep away from coffee. Can you get Zantac in England my doc prescribed liquid gaviscon so thick and horrible.
Thankyou everyone and Susie Q I feel for you you have had so much to put up with bless you. Thankyou Sparkle and everyone else for find time to advise me especially when you are trying to cope yourselves.i am going to get a bed wedge right away any thing is worth a try .
Does anyone think stress can bring on a hiatus hernia I was very stressed before Xmas but in a great place when it struck boo hoo
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Stress = excess acid ....... and hiatus hernia is common in ladies of a 'certain' age. It's finding the triggers, it can be as simple as not eating spicey food, not eating after 8.30 p.m., eating little and often, having the head of the bed raised ..........
What's in your diet?
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Yes all chemists will sell Zantac and your doctor will prescribe stronger ones.
I find them helpful but perhaps something stronger is required to start with.
Have you tried aloe Vera juice. It's really very soothing.
My step father had a hiatus hernia for many many years. He started every day with a plate of porridge. He said it soothed his stomach like nothing else could.
Honeyb
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Porridge lines the gut ;)
Aloe Vera is very good for lots of conditions. Has the flavour improved though :-\
It's good for burns .........
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Kelly, I find the Gaviscon tablets better than the liquid. And as for stress causing a hiatal hernia, I don't see why not. Lots of stress=lots of acid so I expect there's quite a bit of damage it can cause.
On the Zantac topic, I've gotten 75mg over here but since they sell it in 150mg tabs in the US I'll take two 75mg tabs if it's really bad. As Honeybun pointed out sometimes you have to take more to begin with. In my worst days, I've taken the lansaprazole, zantac and Gaviscon all in the same day. You know that we Americans really don't like being uncomfortable :)
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I had a rather unpleasant experience of what I suppose was acid reflux during a yoga session. It was very sudden; a rush of acid into my mouth and nose. I sat up quickly in order to avoid spewing up everywhere. I had no heartburn and hadn't eaten for several hours. My mouth became inflamed and the rest of my digestive system felt similarly afflicted. I felt rough for a few days as things settled down. I have had a yoga session since with no problem, though I was a bit stressed it would happen again. Has anyone else experienced this?
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Hi everyone had a better day today. I have stopped the gaviscon liquid and not as burpy just taking one omezprazole in morning 20g. Went to work for full day and it distracted from my throat though I am hoarse now. Hello again CLKD you so kind with advice! I am having at present 2 whole meal toast in morning with tea and butter . scrambled egg cottage cheese lunch time maybe and small portion of whatever I make at night for family pasta,lasagne or often salad with salmon or steak. If i make tikka masala or chilli i dont havei it nowadays just iin case. I keep well away from rice aswell .Cups of tea down to two a day with maybe one biscuit though doc insists tea doesnt cause it. I ben having a scoop of ice cream too sometimes. No wine at all but has anyone tried a winespritzer with sodawater I am drinking loads of water all day long . I think my acid is happening at night time a lot so hard to identify triggers . I have to reduce it though as My throat needs to heal. I have lost nine pounds unintentionally as my appetite is low so I need to add a few more jacket potatoes etc i think. Is there any fruit that everyone
Thinks is okay to have I have kept away from that too.! I am very confused as you can tell. How do you ladies manage on dinner out in the evening. Any advice on switching to soya milk or taking actilophus .
Ju ju keep an eye on things as I started regurgitating stuff and ignored it resulting in this unbearable sore throat.poor Sparkle you could do without all that!
Thanks again everyone I am going to try Zantac at bedtime to see how it goes.
Love to allxxxxxxx
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Both butter and cottage cheese can cause me problems. As can fizzy drinks. It is a problem for me at night though I can feel acid this evening as I haven't eaten regularly during the day.
Rice should be OK - there's nothing in it once it's boiled ;) - DH has added chopped garlic, ginger (which used to cause problems for me), cadmium seeds ………. that was my meal earlier.
it's when I lay down in bed that mine starts >:(
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Thanks CKLD for your advice so tricky for me as I am not getting severe heartburn just a sore throat. My diets not bad is it? I just want rid of this sore sore throat . Very frustrating indeed. I am back at ENT on the 19th to discuss it again so if the pills have worked by then I have to accept it must be acid causing throat and I m sleeping through it all! Gonna try a bed wedge !! . I will keep everyone posted . Love to all
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One consultant told me that the stomach makes more acid overnight than at any other time. He advised taking a pill last thing before bed. It did help me.
Give porridge a try in the morning. It really does sooth and line your tummy.
Honeyb
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Your diet is OK from where I'm sitting ;)
If you don't make excess acid then maybe the sore throat is caused from something else :-\ - do you sleep with your mouth open? snore? sneeze a lot?
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I will switch to taking my pill at night folks I think. My life still on hold until I get rid of this throat as nurofen,paracetamol isn't shifting it at all. Bought Zantac to try today and had the inquisition from girl in chemist over why I was taking it! She said you shouldn't take it with prescribed ppi! I said well my consultant says differently!
Booked to see Rod Stewart on 20th with best friend but justvcouldntbgo with a raging throat and no voice! Boohoo want my life back !
Sparkle do you have sore throat all the time?
CKLD yes I do sleep with my mouth open sometimes and sometimes snore!
I got soya milk today does anyone think that might help? I might try porridge with soya in morning . Also someone recommended honey for throat .
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Hi, I was diagnosed with hiatus hernia ten years ago and it returns still every now and then usually when stressed or worried about something. When I was diagnosed I was told the following: no fizzy drinks,tea or coffee, anything with too much saturated fat in, pizza,chocolate,pastrys/pastry pies etc and ice cream.
Certain fruits those with lots of acidity in them like citrus fruits,grapefruits etc.
Also I was told to eat small meals often like every two hrs or so.
Oh and it's alway much worse when period is due, and yes it's hormone related and mine only started again with peri meno, I take omprezole one before food at breakfast time 20mg, Ive had it today as it happens, first felt bloated for a few days then heavy hard feeling with pain under rib age. Took the omprezole at 4pm and felt so much better by tea time I shall probably continue taking omprezole each morning for the next few days, then it will disappear again!
I hope this helps, I've not had burning throat but have experienced burning mouth feeling a bit like when you've been chewing menthol gum, every time I breather I. Or out through my mouth, thankfully gone now after I started HRT !
Good luck
Smokeyxx
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Thanks Sparkle and Smokey taking all your advice on board.
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Did you sleep better?
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HI CKLD I always sleep I think that's maybe the trouble. I am never up in the night with heartburn docs think i must have acid in the night causing sore thoat as camera showed up a small hiatus hernia. Infact i am shattered . can omprezaole make you tired? doc told me to take two a day and i could harly get up this morning. I am back at ENT next week so I will see what he says. Xx
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More likely the acid reflux making you tired. We all have it in my family, and it can make life pretty miserable. All the women (sisters and daughters ) find the reflux worse before periods... definately hormone related.!!! It can cause sore throats, earache, excessive burping, bloating, excessive mucus, tiredness, burning mouth and in the case of one of my daughters, really sore lips.!!
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Oh us poor women we have to suffer don't we Rosie. Some days like today I get up and I am so shaky and weepy I think I am losing my grip. In 3 months I am a different person . I am refusing invitations right left and centre. Will I ever get rid of this constant sore throat. Maybe I should try stronger painkillers. I never like to take strong ones. Xxxxxx
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I think you should try something to sooth your throat. Have you tried Manuka honey. It's a bit pricey but my mother swears by the stuff. She is nearly 92 and has taken it for years.
A couple of spoonfuls a day is very good for digestive problems.
Honeyb
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Apologies not read whole thread but I have acid problems due to a hiatius hernia the main symptom of which was a tickly cough ie, coughed so bad I pulled muscles in my chest :(
I am now on meds which generally speaking manages it very well although symptoms seem to be coming back - could be due to my diet not being great ie, eat healthy stuff but also baaaaad stuff or just getting older?! I also used Gaviscon double action, swear by the stuff.
My conditions was diagnosed through having to have a camera down my throat, not pleasant but sometimes needs must.
Had no idea that acid reflux was linked to tiredness though? I am permanently shattered :(
Hope you get your sore throat sorted soon.
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Gonna go for some manuka honey tonite! Honeybun .thans everyone. I do feel dizzy on omezprazole does anyone else. I am at docs tonite so gonna get some stronger pain killers as nurofen / parecetomol not helping then back at Ent next week. Xxx
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When I tried ompeprazole it made me spaced out and pins and needles. Doctor thought I was mad however other people have had the same reactions from my research. I am very sensitive to pills I am on 10mg of amitriptyline for nerve pain, knocks me put for eight hours, which is a very low dose.
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Yes, stress definitely aggravates it all as I have just proved to myself today! Horrible experience with a car rolling back into mine and then the driver trying to blame me! He got so aggressive I called the police. Luckily I had a brilliant witness who waited with me until the police came. I have now got the tummy from hell - it's like someone's wedged a football under my ribs and the only relief is from burping! So Kelly, I'm glugging Gaviscon tonight - just wish it was wine. Cheers!!!
Sparkle Mines the same feel like Im wearing something tight and the ache all along the rib line under both boobs
If Im unlucky I get a pain like Ive been stabbed with a knife in between my sternum OH S>>> it hurts like hell
Goes right through to my back it lasts for 5 mins or so SO I cough and belch and the terrible pain goes
But Im left feeling terrified the soreness and ache all along the upper abdo can last for weeks and I belch
I used to say it felt like Id been punched under there its all bruised and in betweeen my shoulder blades ache
That can go on for weeks if I lie down with heat its goes vanishes then I get up and with in 5 mins its there
The ache it used to reach an end with the PAIN then Id bring up acid like there was no tomorrow then itd go
Id be fine for months and months with maybe an odd day or 2 feeling iffy and then fine again BUT now its diff
Thats not happening Im bringing up a wee bit of acid and I get the regurg feeling its like if I could BELCH
Hard enough it would go because the pressure in my sternums as if Ive eaten and its got stuck
Last night I ate 2 slices of toast and sat upright for over 2 hours and no pain came but the aches still there
it makes u feel low and tired and ANGRY but what can you do is it Gastro is it Gall stones?
All I know is that if it was somehting really bad Id be dead by now Ive had this on and off since POstmeno 1998
But the actual attack pain is more sever now still Im luckier than some big hugs xxxxxxxxxxx
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SUSIQ. You have a lot going on I think and your attitude inspires me! What a lot you have had to put up with.
Hi everyone doc said drop parecetomol neurone etc as they won't help my throat. She was right it wasn't! She offered me mood enhancing pills cos i have got a bit low about my throat but I don't want to go down that path. I feel better on days I go to work so I feel I need to keep busy.
I am shattered and wonder like you Maryjane if its the omezprazole but maybe it's my low mood too. I have amyltriptine and I chop them up they effect me so much . I sometimes take a quarter at night if I am a bit jittery . Doc says it will switch things off but they aren't addictive. They do give a dry mouth though so at the moment I am not taking them.
Hubby says I sleep with my mouth open which doesn't help my throat. Any tips on how to avoid doing this . Was thinking of going to hypnotist. What do you think girls? What a life!!!
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To all who sleep open mouthed yep it will dry up
To all who dont want to try antis or mood enhansers give them a go cut them in half if u like
No Ive not had endoscopy and unless the knife pain comes and doesnt go Im not going too
I want my trip to be over before I go to see get a scan etc BUT endoscopy is a last resort not 1st
From yesterday afternoon 100% everyhting went ache fullness belching? Just like a switch
This am no ache as such no burping much no tightness just achy and IM aware one false step?
I too ate carbs 2 Toasted ham butties and I sat up right for 2 hours pain had gone when I ate them
Thought OK see what happens thanks be to god AOK
HOPE the day is beter for all of us HUGE HUGS to us all LADIES xxxxxxxxxxxxx
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HA HA Sparkle yes I bet we are lovely! And throw in the burping with me too!!!!
Is this your second endoscopy? If you have the sedation it's fine I was practically asleep and had half hour kip after it too. If you need one SusiQ you will be fine I promise and I am a real baby!
I had good day yesterday no sore throat after week on omprezanol but its back today unfortunately. Maybe I need more time on it. I am back at ENT next week as follow up to endoscopy and going to ask him if there is anything else it could possibly be. Hubby will come in with me. Trying to be positive about things and keep busy but still getting shaky feelings some days. Got no heartburn at all now just sore throat .
Love to all and have a lovely trip SusieQ . I haven't cancelled my holiday and still planning my rod stewrt outing next week. Can you drink on omezprazole .i usually have a wine spritzer but haven't been drinking for at two months since dreaded throat struck . Love to all xxxxxxxx
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Glad to hear things are getting a bit better Sparkle. Do you think it's better to take the omprezanol right after you have eaten or before bed. Also what did you find relieved the sore throat a bit.
Please let me know how you get on at Ent
Xxxxx
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I started having really bad heartburn before Xmas along with migraines which I had never had. I was also having a burning sensation in my mouth and lips. I suffered from nausea each day but didn't know if it was the acid or the migraines causing it I put it down to stress as my cat had been hit by a car and we had to wait a few months to see what recovery she had with her bladder.
I went to the doctors after it didn't go away and he gave me lansoprazole 30mg. Now months on it has got worse. I feel like there is a lump in my throat and if I eat certain foods they seem to take a couple of swallows before going down. My tongue is sore everyday and feels like when you have burnt it on a hot drink as does my lips and the roof of my mouth andI get nausea on and off.
He referred me yesterday to have an endoscopy. I am so worried as my gran died from stomach cancer.
As anyone else had these symptoms and found it was due to the acid reflux.
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Hi Chloe I have similar symptoms but just one side of my throat and tongue its been going. On since march but like you I started with heartburn at Xmas. I had had a very stressful time before Xmas don't know if that had anything to do with it.
Don't worry about the endoscopy if you have the sedation you don't know whats going on and it's soon over. I promise you I wouldn't worry if I had to have it again. It will put your mind at rest. It found a hiatus hernia but I have only been on the pills for 2 weeks and although the heartburn has gone my throat is terribly sore . It totally disrupts your life doesn't it ? Let me know how you get on with the endoscopy. I know how you feel!
Hi Sparkle I was told to double up my pills too by doctor but have only been taking one as I think they make you really tired and sometimes lightheaded. have you
found this? Mind you my throat is agony today and I have taken extra one in desperation. Been really down about it. A lot of men seem to take two omezprazole that I have spoken to but i was hoping to take one and then gradually cut down. Don't you wonder what on earth is happening to us? Hope you don't have to wait to long for the barium swallow.keep us posted . Xx
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Chloe... stress = produce more acid = heartburn= more mucus produced =which sometimes can lead to sinus headaches (which can feel as bad as a migrine. ) I get this every month when i am due on. ( caused by hormones ) You may find omprezole suits you better, and you may find initially that you have to be on two a day. Its the acid coming up that it causing the burning sensation... my daughter gets really sore lips every time she gets her period with bad burping, nausea and she is really really tired.
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Well after supermarket shopping replaxd with book in garden .still got sore throat but trying not to get low and tearful again. It's strange I don't experience any heartburn but got this raging sore throat .
Watch the gaviscon Sparkle The consultant told me to double up on everything including gaviscon and i could hardly eat for burping . Have you tried a Zantac before bed I know a lot of ladies on the forum take it but the docs warn you off taking it with our meds don't they. I haven't yet. I am like you I don't want to take the double dose ( the side effects sheet is frightening) but I am desperate this weekend so I am trying it. At least you are getting your appointments now and hopefully can get sorted please God! Are you on HRT at all.
Chloe when is your endoscopy. Like you I am on the pills but still got a burning throat. A lot of ladies on the forum complain of a lump in their throat. Have you thought about emailing dr currie at all ?
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I am waiting for my appointment to come through for the endoscopy. The dr requested sedation as I told him I have panic attacks now and the camera down the throat is the one thing I really fear.
I did have the camera up the nose and down the throat 2 years ago after a fishbone incident and whilst the spray up the nose was horrible I didn't know the camera was down there.
The only foods I seem to have trouble with is doughy bread like crumpets, pizza etc. I can swallow everything else ok and the Dr said it was good and probably meant it wasn't as bad than all foods getting stuck in my throat.
Had a better day today no nausea which is great. I will let you know what they say after I have had the endoscopy.
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Sparkle - I have cut down on chocolate and just have a couple of pieces and not after 9pm. I can't eat things that are good for you such as radish and have cut out tomatoes. I have bought some local honey as I have read that is good for you. I also drink ginger, camomile and lemon tea. Ginger biscuits are good for the nausea and chewing gum when the acid is bad helps it.
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Very down today with constant sore throat. Just hoping Ent visit will help me but not holding out any more hope. I am not getting any heartburn at all sleeping all night yet still have sore throat. I honestly don't think it's connected at this point in time. No wonder we are anxious Sparkle we have a lot to put up with ( especially you) . When you say choclate burns do you mean when it goes down or afterwards. Gaviscon feels like that to me when it is going down. It's the peppermint I think. It's really horrible isn't it?
My hubby had reflux ages ago and swears by chewing gum he doesn't even take hs tablets. He has a hiatus hernia and is always guzzling choclate.
Love to all fellow suffererers.
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Be wary about chewing gum.
A consultant told me not to do it at all. His reason was when you start to chew and produce saliva your stomach starts to prepare itself to receive food and therefore produces acid to digest the food that should be coming its way. No food means the acid just sits there and can cause problems.
Perhaps it's the minty flavour that helps for a short while.
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We get a lot of conflicting opinions don't we epecially from different docs! I sometimes wonder if my throat is hormone related or burning mouth syndrome even .my heartburn was treated so easily .did anyone get tested for allergies and how do you go about it .
my hubbies heartburn was mild Sparkle so he only uses gum occasionally I don't think it should be done everyday. I would hate to advise you to do anything that made you suffer even more. I think there was an artcle in a paper about it and that's where everyone is getting it from.
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This Thursday Sparkle but this is the young consultant who told me to stop thinking about my throat. Easier said than done. My hubby s coming in with me this time as I often get upset. I have been emailing dr Currie and she suggests low Hrt for me as she has seen others with the same symptons. After this appointment after all I have said about keeping away from Hrt I might try it. My life is on hold at moment
And I will try anything. Once you pay the initial payment Byou can mail Dr Curre several times and then bring the emails to the doctor. My doctor had heard of her .why oh why don't they recommend this site and magazine to people. Why docs act said the menopause doesn't cause stuff ! It's so much more than hot flushes.
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You each need to listen to what the Consultant suggests and work with it. That is why we see a Consultant, in order to get the medication required prior to further investigations. I have never had a sore throat with reflux. Currently I've eaten a late lunch and I can feel the back of my throat 'suggesting' heartburn so am sitting up.
I used to love chewing gum but found many years ago that I had 'wind' if I chewed too often. Now I use it for keeping my mouth fresh if I can't get to a sink with my toothbrush. Any one remember the gum in the yellow packet? Yummy ::)
Alcohol can cause heartburn. Spiced foods ……….. which is what I ate a few moments ago, probably causing the heartburn feelings :( ……….. sore throat can be caused by post nasal drip or even dental problems if there is a slow 'leak' of infection.
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To Sparkle and Kelly - I only use the chewing gum when the acid is bad and my mouth is burning from it. I use any gum and it has helped me. I don't use it everyday only occasionally and as soon as I feel it easing I take it out.
I don't have a sore throat only the burning mouth and lips, I did read on the burning mouth syndrome as this was my first symptom before all the indigestion and lump in the throat started and as I have gum disease it's all related. Now I am wondering if it is more to do with whatever is causing me to feel like this at the moment.
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Sparkle. I don't know I have read it is hormonal but also it could be due to the acid coming up so much it is burning my mouth. I guess the consultant will be able to find that out when I have the endoscopy. I was put on another tablet for 2 weeks only which tightened the top part of the stomach so it couldn't release any acid and I felt fine whilst taking them but have read you can't be on them long.
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I also have diverticulitis but have never been sure how to treat it. What symptoms do you get sparkle and what meds do you take.
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Not really. It was a diagnosis by my GP. He did want me to see someone but when I asked if there was a cure he said no so being a coward I did not bother.
I sometimes have the lower left side ache and it can make me feel a bit sick. I have IBS but the D type so constipation is not an issue. I take Buscopan occasionally and watch my diet. Also started a new pro biotic which is supposed to be good.
Don't really think there is much else you can do. I did Google it and scared myself silly so just have to hope it stays as it is and does not turn into anything nasty.
Never ends does it ::)
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I agree, but sometimes don't you just wonder what else will pop up. I sometimes struggle to remember what feeling really well and normal was like. Maybe it's exacerbated by meno but then again it could be just getting older.
Whatever the reason I get fed up with it as I'm sure you do too.
Onwards and upwards I guess, not much else we can do. And on that cheery note ::)
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Haven't had any constipation with double omezprazole Sparkle. But I do drink loads and loads of water because of my throat. Mind you I hve only been on it for 3 weeks and I only want to take double for max of 6 weeks .if it hasn't cured my throat by then its not working. I will keep you posted for Thursday but I am so fed up I don't expect much. I feel for you Chloe and if chewing gum helps do it. Anything for relief.
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Oh Sparkle after only about 5 days taking two of them daily tonight I feel so uncomfortable in my upper chest area and seem to have more throat clearing and dreaded burping. I am not having the second one tonight as I just don't feel right especially with a sore throat that feels even drier . I think you are right about taking double. But docs and one consultant told me to double dose . I think it might be one of their stock answers.
Hope it all passes soon. We're you feeling okay before you started the 40 g .
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Have any of you tried Nexium. It's quite strong but seems to be one with the least side effects. I tolerated that one really quite well.
Might be worth changing from the PPIs that cause most side effects.
There are quite a few choices so a change can be beneficial.
Honeyb
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Thread may have moved on but......
I get sore throat and itchy roof of mouth from silver birch pollen allergy. When it is bad and I go into the garden, I get itchy eyes, sneezing, snot and more snot, feel tired and grotty and cough. It is something that has come on over the last 15 years and was worse this year.
I also get a similar reaction to raw apples, peaches and nectarines, cherries and some raw nuts. (oral allergy syndrome/food pollen syndrome)
It took me 10 years to realise why I always had a sore throat and kept sneezing and it has got worse recently and I am wondering if you just get more sensitive at menopause.
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Hi Dahliagirl how did you find out what it was and how are you treating it. Were you suffering for ten years how awful!
Can't change anything yet Honeybun as I have only just started the omezprazole so havnt been on it for a month yet. After 6 weeks I will be probably be trying without them for a while .
Sparke I am gonna get one of those too . I am on four pillows at the moment .
Seriously thinking of asking for low Hrt if thing not improved by beginning of July .
Love to all us poor girls
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Hi- it really has gone on for years and I just put up with it. It has gradually got worse and I have blamed tonsils, wisdom teeth, ear infection, had thyroid checked. I didn't really connect it to the sneezing. For a while, I thought it might be gorse, then someone said they had silver birch allergy and I realised that flowered at the same time - we have 4 in the garden. My son's bedroom makes me sneeze violently so for a while I thought it was him!
I had a reaction to nectarine recently, where my lips swelled up (think 'trout pout') and found out that is connected. There is some good info on the Allergy UK website. The Met Office website has graphs of which pollens are prevalent and when. I probably need to confirm it with the doctor, but I know they do not do allergy testing round here as a matter of course.
Cooked food is ok, but I am realising that peeling veg can cause more sneezing :( Peanuts are a bit iffy too, but I don't like them. It is often the non-mainstream varieties of fruit that are worst.
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Hi Dahliagirl I just have sore throat all the time so not sure if its allergy . i dont have sneezing and no relief if I am indoors or anything .
Who does the allergy testing . Does doc refer you?
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I just wondered with the sore throat and itchy mouth - it might have been a possibility - for me, it did not seem to connect with the sneezing for a while, but I am a bit slow on the uptake sometimes!
My friend had to ask for a referral to an allergy clinic for her daughter with a nut allergy - it was not automatic. She had the details from another mother. Before that she did not know which nuts, had no epipen, which was worrying. I don't need that, and know what it is.
This afternoon, walking home, sneezing, I was wondering if I am now have another pollen to add to the list.
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Sparkle - I did tell my son he made me sneeze :o He has a good sense of humour - he is 22 and at home and has to clean his own room.
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Sparkle you are so nice remembering!!! You must be a good friend to have! My best friend is like you I opened the door to a big bunch of flowers from her the other day! Most people just text to see how I am but she gets the extra mile!
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As suspected the consultant said i hadn't been on the omezprazole for long enough so he will see me again in four weeks. if necessary he said he would look at my throat under general anaesthetic . To add to everything I have toothache and felt sick all day .dont know if they are connected or the sickness is another effect
From omezprazole ! Seems like the dentist is similar to the docs now and I can't get emergency appointment unless I ring at 9 the same morning . I also had panicky feelings and shakes while waiting at the hospital ! My husband has just gone out to watch the match and I am sure he thinks I am going crazy.
Has anyone had panic attacks and nausea while asking omezprazole ? Or am I really going mad???????
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So understand how you feel Sparkle. I think I will never be myself again!! This summer is just passing me by in a haze!! I got a funny chest feeling after a few days on double dose. I have no appetite on it either lost about 10 lbs so far but just not hungry . Consultant said today he is happy for me to just take one (after I told him all the trouble i was having) as long as I took gaviscon after every meal! Also he advised me to change them at docs if I wanted.
What a life at the moment. To think I was totally normal at Xmas! Ate and drank what I wanted. I am just about managing work.
I know you have quite a bit more than me healthwise to cope with Sparkle as well. Did you get appointment for your barium swallow?
I am seriously thinking of hypnotherapy for relaxation and also for my teeth grinding which seems to be getting worse and ruining my teeth ! What a wreck!!
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Yes I am going to ring hypnotherapy today and docs for different prescription cos feel,so sick yesterday and today. It could be my bad tooth but on omezprazole leaflet 1 in ten experience nausea . Yes Sparkle consultant said take gaviscon advance liquid or tablets after meals and he said change my tablets if I want. I just couldn't take two the feelings were awful. Now I am off to the phone to try and get through to dentist and docs ! I am sick of me so no wonder my hubbie and family are !!! Feel free to moan to me Sparkle I know what it's like .xxxx
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My wedge pillow hasn't arrived yet so I will probably think the same as you Sparkle Just been to the docs to change my pills got lansoprozole now but really worried as side effects are dry throat and mouth possibly so thy could make my throat worse couldn't they! Can't believe it!!! Dentist said i have to take week of antibiotics before I have my tooth out and I am worred they will make my throat worse. Crying in docs again and he said just keep taking new pills until you go back to Ent next month that's all you can do! Been feeling nausea all day so just can't go back on omezprazole .
Anyone got any feedback on the lansoprozole at all?
How did MRI go,Sparkle ? Did they give you the results there and then?
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At this point Sparkle they can take my head off ! I didn't take anything yesterday just antibiotics and some gaviscon before bed. Just couldn't face the new pills on top of omezprazole in my system. Still a bit of nausea this morning . Just gonna see if I have any heartburn today or not . Very confused ! Asked doc to see someone who treats menopause and he said there is no one not even a nurse . He recommended menopause matters website!!
Slowly going crazy!!!!!!!
Let me know results Sparkle when you get them. It's always a waiting game isn't it .
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Hi Sparkle writing this from bed as was up all night with terrible throat. just stayd in bed all day very upset that i am in varying degrees of painfulness. i think the antibiotcs for my tooth might have dried my throat out even more. just lay on sofa all night . havent started the lansaprozole as side effect for 1 in 100 is dry mouth and throat and i am terrified it all gets worse. Honestly dont know what the hell to do gonna try docs again tomorrow to ask about side efffects i am there all the time,hope youare having better weekend than me xxxx
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Thing is Sparkle I am not getting bloated and not getting much acid. Just an awful dry sore throat. Yes at my wits ends.everyone looks at my throat and says its okay. I am going to docs tonite armed withnDr Currie emails and gonna beg to try some low Hrt ! Thanks for sympathy .
Send it all back to you
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I will Sparkle. I will take anything at present.
Cancelling holiday in July as I just couldn't go. Back at Ent on 17 th July.
Let me know your results as soon as you friend out. Hope you have a good day today.
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I know what you mean Sparkle. I feel it might take me a while to get back to myself. I been to the docs and saw one of the female docs who usually is quite alright but i think they are sick of my constant visits. anyway I got the low Hrt to try ..she wasn't keen to give it but gave exactly what Dr Heather recommended. She said you didn't get anxiety with the menopause .well one look at this website might prove her wrong!
I was a bit weepy .its gone on so long for me! She said i wud rather prescribe anti anxiety pills for you and a phychologist!! Needless to say I was very upset about this comment and feel I can't go back there again. Back to Ent on 17 th July so I will keep taking the pills ,see how I go on Hrt and avoid the doctors !!
Maybe you will have your results before you go Sparkle. They might tell you the barium meal ones right away.
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Thanks Sparkle .i agree with everything you said. Wanting me to see a psychologist really upset me though
Is this the next step when they can't help you?
How are you doing on the omezprazole .are you back down to one. Are you having any nausea with them at all? I am making myself eat but it's difficult but someone said i had lost weight in my face the other day!
What are we like?
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Hi Kellie, Sparkle, I really hope things will improve for you, it is sooo discomforting to see there s no end to the aches. Kelly I hope the HRT will bring about improvement. As I have posted before, terrible nausea and stomach acidity since March was what finally brought me to start on HRT and there was an immediate improvement. I see now, two months on HRT, that nausea creeps up in the last 4-5 days of each pack, i.e. At the end of the progesterone part. It then goes away ( alongside with the acidity, pain and burping) while on the estrogens. And whatever creeps up is no way so severe as it was pre HRT. I have thus stopped this month taking Nexium. I was also told that PPIs interfere with the way other medication is absorbed in the body and for me the HRT is more important. So I really hope by the next month or so this nausea and discomfort will also disappear. Good luck and let us know how it is going!
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Hi Milamam Thanku for that post. I just hope i see some improvement when I start the HRT . My throat s just burning all the time and am miserable. Did the doctor recommend the HRT or did you ask for it. Are you post menopausal and what kind are you on?
We need to hear some good news to keep us going dont we Sparkle.
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Kelly - I have been taking lansoprazole for 5 months now. They make you a bit constipated and terrible bouts of trapped wind in your stomach. I used to have occasional bouts of wind trapped but nothing like this. I read other people having the same problem with them so think it's the tablets more than what is wrong with me.
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I am sure you are right Chloe . I have awful nausea do you? Doc insists its anxiety ! Have you been on omezprazole at all ?
Sparkle please let me know your results tomorrow !
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Kelly - I don't get nausea through the tablets only if my migraines or acid reflux is bad. They tend to make my joints ache and feel tired some days.
I haven't been on any other tablets just waiting for my appointment to come through to see a consultant for the 1st time with these problems.
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Kelly, Sparkle,
Alongside with the constant nausea and stomach acids (ie reflux) I also had night sweats , anxiety, insomnia. The blood tests showed high FSH and low estrogen. I am perimeno, still having periods although with changed cycles in the past two years. Seams that things got worse as of March. The doctor definitely prescribed HRT. He said herbal stuff etc wont work for me. He said I should see much improvement in all fronts in 3-4 months. I am on Femoston 2/10 where I take estr and prog combined in the last 14 days of the cycle and estr only in the first half. The nausea and acids emerge on the last 4-5 days of each pack but do disappear when I start the estrogen part. So I hope with you it is also hormonal and that HRT will bring about improvement.
PS - I am seeing my doctor tomorrow and will discuss why I still get this nausea and acids even though just for a few days. Will write with updates.
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Thanks for that info Milamam . I have exactly the same symtons as you but the doc
Wasn't happy to give me the Hrt I had to bring emails from Dr Currie. Did you get the burning throat at all? How long before you felt the effects of the HRt . I am desperate. Today after not sleeping my anxiety was so bad I couldn't drive my son to school. I found some diazepam and had to take a quarter mid morning to calm me down. what On earth is happening to me .all started with a burning throat!
Hope you get your appointment soon Chloe.
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I know what you mean Kelly, it is awful. Try to think of the anxiety as only a symptom, and don't blame yourself! It is NOT your fault.
For me the night sweats and insomnia disappeared in the first two weeks, moods improved after a month but I am still cautious about the anxiety an I hope it will disappear within the next months. The nausea also was one of the first things to go. I then started feeling nauseas during the last few pills of the pack and then again it disappeared when I started the new pack.
Did you doctor advise you on anything related to the anxiety, i.e. ADs? I also take citalopram for now 11 months but I don't think it had any significant effect until I started the HRT. My doctor who also prescribed the HRT said that HRT enhances the effects of ADs and that I should stay on it for now although on low dose.
And no, I didn't have burning throat but have suffered with dry eyes symptom before. I think HRT has brought an improvement to that front as well!
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Yes we need this support at the moment. I am really desperate for someone to help me with my throat . Seems so long till consultant on the 17th .the Internet is full of people who swear that ppi s dont work and cause anxiety and sickness. The docs just prescribe pills to cover the extra symtons I think.
Very shaky this morning but gonna try the school run and see so frightened I get to the point where I can't go out.
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Let me know your results Sparkle as soon as you know and enjoy your hols. Thank god you are well enough to go.
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Sparkle, enjoy your holidays and try to relax. I am sure only the change of scenery will make things better for you.
Reporting back from the Dr re reflux at the last days of cycle. He said all normal, such discomfort days should decrease in number as I progress further with the HRT, no change needed for now. So will have to endure for a few more days. Other than that many things re peri have improved so should't complain ....oh well, I am like this always, instead of really looking at what has improved i tend to get obsessed over things that are still bothering.....
Kelly, I hope you feel better today. I am sorry if I missed it but did you start the HRT yet?
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Hi Milamam yes started HRT yesterday but still very anxious and shaky plus the continuing sore throat. At my wits end. Doc gave me citolopram And some diazepam ( for short term) I am sure she thinks the sore throat is a figment of my imagination. She wants me to have counselling! Still can't believe all this?
On a plus ( very small one) i have managed to get my appointment at ENT sooner on the 7 th . The consultant won't be happy I havnt been on the omezparole for 6 weeks but my throat is driving me crazy and I am going to beg him to take me in and look at it . I just dont trust the ppi pills as i blame them for the nausea and panic .What a life these past few months!
Hope you come back well rested Sparkle.
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Thanks Sparkle and everyone
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Hope you had a lovely holiday Sparkle. Glad you relaxed a bit. Let me know your results too. I started the low Hrt and felt a little bit better after a week. My throat hasn't been too bad thank God but I have also been doing a low acid diet and drinking alkaline water so it could be that as well. I am not going near the omprezanol it just made me feel really sick. Not telling the consultant that though! I have stuck to the Gaviscon though. I know what you mean about anxiety. It has had me in its grip for nearly ten days now. I have it nearly all the time pounding heart can't sleep. Still haven't taken the anti depressants so frightened of them ! But don't know how long I can carry on in this extreme state.
I have stopped the Hrt because I have suddenly got blurred vision .HAS ANYONE OUT THERE EXPERIENCED BLURRED VISION WITH HRT. Or could it be an anxiety symptom? Can't get my life back at the moment . Just crumbling.xxxxx
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You MUST tell the Consultant. There is also a Yellow Card to fill in on-line about the various medications. No point in keeping any information 'back' because without a full medical profile the medics are unable to be subjective!
Anxiety is probably the reason for the blurred vision. Your GP has given you ADs for a reason and whilst I am the worse for worrying about side-effects, if you don't try them you won't know how they help/not. It can also take 10-14 days before the drugs kick in ??? …….
I doubt if you 'beg' a Consultant they won't 'take you in' if the symptoms don't warrant investigations, particularly if you aren't taking the medication as prescribed. Take a list to your appt. about what you have taken and any unpleasant effects; as well as what you find helps. Also your general daily diet ……… : Otherwise <shrug> ………
Reflux is unpleasant. I find it worse if I eat too early to laying down in bed. I take my meds at least an hour before bed. Otherwise the symptoms begin as soon as I try to sleep. Milk of Magnesia helps me, OK it's old hat but the milk rather than tablets eases symptoms, as does Rennies ………. I was going to type Rentakill ::)
What on EARTH is alkaline water? Water itself can cause acid ………. because one drinks too much and it causes wind ::)
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hi CKLD I am not sure if we have spoken before. My problem is I don't really get the heartburn just a burning throat so can't identify culprits. The alkaline water is a high ph. Higher than normal water .some recommend it on line others don't. It was worth a try for me as I am desperate and its easily available in tesco. My throat has been better on a bland diet with the water but it also might have been the Hrt. As doc said stop immediately if you get a migraine i was worried about blurred vision and stopped them. I was on femeston conti low dose .Have u experienced blurred vision with anxiety at all?
Consultant said he would take me in to investigate my throat if it hadn't improved so I am hoping he will. I have been on the omprezanol for 5 weeks so shud have seen some benefit by now especially with my diet and gaviscon etc. I think you can reduce them after that time anyway and use when needed. It's not good to be on them all the time apparently.
thanks so much for advice .where do you find the yellow cards.
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Hi everyone and Sparkle . I am actually being taken in on the 28 th to hve my throat investigated after suffering since march. As I have altered my diet ,had 5 weeks omezprazole ,gaviscon, no caffeine, alcohol ,dairy, and still,suffering consultant says he better have a look even if only to put my mind at rest .
That at least makes me feel a bit better and I hope it improves the anxiety.
Has anyone managed to get over anxiety without withou AD .if so any advice would be welcome. Can kalms help with acute anxiety?
Thnks to everyone especially Sparkle for listening over these past months!!
Love and hugs
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Hi Kelly,
I wouldn't say I got over my anxiety, more that I have ways to manage it. I have been on ADs twice in the past for GAD.
This is what works for me - acupuncture (also helps with other peri symptoms), a good psychologist (not CBT), yoga, meditation, and above all, being kind to myself - nurturing from the inside and out. It is a work in progress, with some days being easier to manage than others.
The mind has so much more control over how the body feels and reacts than I ever gave it credit for.
Good luck with the throat investigation.
Galadriel x
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Thanks Galadriel I know what you mean. The anxiety grips you epecially early morning my heart beating and I can't get back to sleep. Can I ask what Ad you were on and for how long? Did you find it easy to come off them cos that's what worries me. Doc has given me citalopram 10 mg but I havnt taken them yet. Taken the odd diazepam to sleep. Did you get blurred vision at all cos I am suffering fom that. I will look for acupuncture today . What about reflexology or hypnotherapy did you give them a go? I welcome any advice no matter how small.
Thanks for your best wishes .
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I was on venlafaxine 75mg once a day, both times for over a year. It took about 3 weeks for me to see a difference in anxiety levels. Sleep patterns improved too.
When it was time to come off, I swapped to the twice daily tablets and tapered off slowly over a month. No trouble at all.
10mg citalopram is a nice low dose to start with so I'd give it a go, remembering it will take a while for the positive effects to kick in.
I've not had blurred vision so I can't help you there.
I have no experience with reflexology or hypnotherapy other than to say go with whatever works best for you :)
Galadriel x
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Hi Galadriel thanks for getting back to me so quickly. I have had a good day yesterday and today so was going to try without the meds. I really hope it's possible I haven't felt shaky since Saturday but did feel really weird in a hot bath yesterday morning . I went to the hospital yesterday and was okay so fingers crossed i can manage. Seeing doc in the morning so probably ask about psychologist .
Lots of love
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Will do Sparkle. How are you getting on now you are back from hols?
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I know exactly how you feel Sparkle. It's is hard not having a nice cup of tea I know but my throats been better on a bland diet and no caffeine but what a life it is! I just bought camomile tea to try and get used to so I can have that instead. I spoke to doc this morning and said i hadn't taken citalopram and did she think I could get over it myself and she said its possible so I am giving it a try. Relaxation exercises , little walk and making myself go to tesco etc. I am just doing gaviscon after meals and bedtime Sparkle and that seems to work as much as the omezprazole . I am convinced the omeprozole caused my anxiety but who knows? Are you taking it for the IbS . I have been having the High ph water from tesco with my meals .its called Saka and its about a pound a bottle. It was worth a try and people on line were recommending it to reduce acid. So it's either the diet, the water or gaviscon that's helping me . You cud give it a go just to see. Someone mentioned acupuncture for IBS . Have u tried it? Let me know your results when you get them . Hope they are okay.xxxxxxkelly
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Hi ladies I've just been reading your posts and thought I'd share some things that have helped me.
Last year I went through a really bad patch where I constantly felt like I had something stuck in my oesophagus and was getting lots of indigestion and heartburn.
What I did was completely cut out caffeine, alcohol and carbonated drinks. I ate a bland low fat diet and took 60mg of Lansoprazole every day as well as Gaviscon. All this helped, but then I started looking into more natural ways of dealing with it as well. I'm not usually a believer in complimentary/alternative medicine but I read an article on line about Mastic Gum capsules and how they helped to get rid of someones stomach ulcer.
Even though I didn't have a stomach ulcer and after reading lots of good things about this mastic gum I took the plunge and bought some. The brand I buy is Mastika and I get it off Amazon and Ebay. Whether it was coincidence I don't know but after taking 2 capsules daily for 6 weeks I had improved 100%, so I stayed on them and I'm still taking them.
Gradually I was able to reintroduce things back into my diet although in a limited way. But now I can have the odd drink of alcohol, coffee, or fizzy drink. I can tolerate the odd spicy meal and joy of joys chocolate and cake !
Another thing that I do, is eat lots of cabbage and drink cabbage water daily. I used to make cabbage smoothies but they were awful unless you put other things in them, but when your desperate you'll try anything.
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That's interesting Lainey winks . I am doing exactly the same as you cutting out everything but its a boring life isn't it? I will look up that gum . Also where do you get cabbage water and is that alkaline ?
Thanks for advice
Kellyxxx
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You get cabbage water from chopping up a cabbage and boiling it in a little water. Strain the cabbage and retain the water.
I remember my dad doing that many years ago as he said it was good for you.
Honeyb
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Oh I see don't know if I fancy that?
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I hated it at first,but now I find it easier. I always put a bit of salt in it, but if you don't want to do that, the best thing is to let it cool and neck it all in one go.
It's definitely worth trying and I find Savoy the most pleasant tasting.
I've read that aloe vera juice is good but I've never been able to find it.
The mastic gum capsules have been a life saver for me.
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Hi everyone yes we hve a few things to try now dont we. I am definitely going to try the gum. Why not? Sparkle I really feel if I have the water with my meals or afterwards it might neutralise the acid as its a higher ph than to water. Even if its just in my mind! Like the gum people on line swear by it. My throat has been better for a few days now so its either the water or the diet so I have to carry on with these adjustments. I am managing the anxiety as well myself so hopefully will get through it . I have ordered some low acid recipe books to give a go but I sometimes think caffeine was a big culprit for me.
Keep me posted Sparkle .
Thanks for everyone's advice .
Kellyxx
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Thank you both, Kelly & LaineyWinks, for more good ideas.
Kelly, I don't think the Omeprazole caused my anxiety although I suppose it might not be helping it. Anxiety has always been a problem for me and it's definitely been worse over the last 2/3 years when lots of perimenopause symptoms raised their ugly heads! You sound like you're doing really well at the moment with your diet, etc. I have such good intentions but sticking to them is always my problem! It's often said that IBS only affects the lower half of the digestive system. Well I can vouch for the fact that for me it's always affected it from top to bottom (sorry if that's TMI!). I think once it becomes dysfunctional it can affect different parts at different times. I've certainly always had a tendency to suffer from heartburn as much as cramps lower down! I've never tried acupuncture for it though. Walking is definitely my thing - just me and the dog in the fields is very calming I find. I had read about alkaline water and how some people have found it really helpful, I didn't realise it was so easy to get hold of though so that's another thing to try. Do you think it's helping you Kelly?
LaineyWinks, do you know I'd forgotten about mastic gum, thank you for the reminder. Years ago when I was on yet another quest to sort out my digestive problems I remember being told about that by an assistant in a natural health shop. I did try it back then but it didn't really make any difference. Who knows though, it might help now so I shall look that up again! 60mg of Lansoprazole is high - did you have problems with that dosage? I found 20mg of Omeprazole twice a day made me feel unwell and just couldn't take it. Did you just persevere or did you find it OK? And cabbage water - actually sounds OK to me as I've drunk spinach water in the past!!!! My dad got me into that, no idea why he did it but he used to add a bit of salt and pepper and a tiny knob of butter and it was really tasty! These days I tend to have spinach raw in salads although I do some times cook it.
Thank you all once again for all your help and advice - it really is appreciated.
S xx
I've had absolutely no problems with the Lansoprazole, in fact I find the 60mg dose much more effective. As for cabbage, I read an article about it being good for digestive problems and how a prison in America had put some inmates on a diet with lots of cabbage and it had cured those inmates stomach ulcers.
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Well anything is worth a try Laineywinks isn't it. I am working on anxiety at the moment and had reflexology this morning. While I was at the Heath centre they offered 3 one to one relaxation sessions free so i am having them as well. Don't know if the reflexology did anything other than relax me. Anyone got any thoughts? I am going to have a few more but maybe I should have gone for acupuncture ? Welcome anyone's opinion! Xxx
Kelly
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I'm a retired psychiatric nurse and even though I've counselled people, taught relaxation therapy and have even had counselling myself. I find nothing works better for me that anti depressants and tranquilisers.
If used short term and correctly there is little chance of dependence, in fact my GP has given me some Diazepam to help me cope with what's going on at the moment. I'm also on 75mg of amitriptyline for depression. Although amitriptyline is a slower acting drug it is better for the stomach than SSRIs such as sertraline etc.
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Thanks for that advice Laineywinks. I have amitiptyline and sometimes take a half for a good nights sleep . I know the other AD is there if i desperately need them. Just a bit jittery in morning seem to improve as day goes on. As a nurse did you ever hear people complain of blurred vision and daylight seeming bright while suffering from anxiety. This seemed to hit me as soon as the anxiety hit about two weeks ago. I have booked an optician appointment as well just to be checked out.
Best wishes
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Thanks for that advice Laineywinks. I have amitiptyline and sometimes take a half for a good nights sleep . I know the other AD is there if i desperately need them. Just a bit jittery in morning seem to improve as day goes on. As a nurse did you ever hear people complain of blurred vision and daylight seeming bright while suffering from anxiety. This seemed to hit me as soon as the anxiety hit about two weeks ago. I have booked an optician appointment as well just to be checked out.
Best wishes
Kelly xxxxxxxxx
Yes I have heard of patients blurred vision complain of blurred vision and whilst it could easily something as simple as needing glasses, it could also be anxiety related and would probably be caused by hyperventilating/rapid breathing. This is where relaxation techniques come in handy, concentrating on slowing your breathing. As for the sensitivity to bright light, anxiety does make us very sensitive in general, but your optician is the best person to see.
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Thanks Laineywinks. I think when we are anxious we focus on everything don't you so I am trying not to go down that route. Got relaxation classes more reflexology and hypnotherapist ringing me today. So I will keep everyone posted. I slept till 9'today ! Could it have been the reflexology I wonder? Xxx Maybe one of these worth a try Sparkle? Hope you are managing okay ? Xxx
Kelly
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Ha ha Sparkle I know where you are coming from! It's a wonder my husband is still here bless him! That's why I took the counselling cos he must be sick of me constantly talking about ailments!! Gonna try and keep busy today . Keeping to the bland diet don't mind camomile tea now ! My throat is still okay so it must be the diet as I am not on anything only gaviscon after meals.
Pleased your tummy is okay. Everyday is a challenge at the moment and its hard to accept isnt it? We just have to take one day at a time but its hard when I remember how carefree I was in febuary eating what I liked, going out . It's all come to an abrupt end but hopefully will come back xxxxxxx
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I was advised by a health professional to take 10mls Gaviscon ADVANCE last thing before going to bed. It helps stop the reflux. It worked for me.
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Hi vanilla slice yes you are right gaviscon does do the trick. I am only taking it at the moment and dropped the omezparole . Doc said if you can do it the gaviscon way then do so! XxxKelly
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So pleased everything is good Sparkle! Try and relax now you know everything is okay. They just told me at endoscopy that I had a small hiatus hernia. Be interested to know if they can go away a bit. If you can give up caffeine I think that is the main thing that bothered me as I am lot better without it. Just on gaviscon . Let me know what doc says.
Good luck
Kelly xxxx
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Don't know if its helped Sparkle as once anxiety has a hold of you it's hard to shake off. Could have been caused by omprazole or just anxiety over throat. I am trying everything but the thing that's getting me down is the blurred like vision. I think it came on with the anxiety . Got optician appointment on Friday but really fed up of it. Ironc thing is my throats been good but now my eyes are getting me down and I am battling anxiety . Found reflexology good and got hypnotherapy today. Just can't seem to get a break. If its not one thing it's another ! I don't know how you have coped as you have suffered for quite a while haven't you. Hope you are still feeling okay .
Lots of love
Kellyn
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Kelly & Sparkle, I can so relate to much of what you've been saying, including summer passing in a haze, (mind you it normally does in Scotland :D) and the doctor saying meno doesn't cause anxiety and offering referral to mental health team. I no longer feel comfortable going to doctors as I too feel they are sick of my endless visits.
I have been on omeprozole for a few years, without any noticeable side effects, however I felt they were no longer working, so stopped taking them. Bad idea as the pain was awful, I don't get the sore throats that you do Kelly, but I was starting to feel anything i ate was sticking, got an emergency endoscopy which showed nothing, not even inflammation. I have what is know as non ulcer dyspepsia, which is basically all the symptoms of an ulcer but without one, so had to go back on the omeprozole, doc also added in zantc which works the same but is not a PPI, I took the 2 for a while but didn't get much relief, so stopped the latter. My main symptoms are upper abdominal burning, pain under left breast, which goes round sometimes under my arm and into shoulder. I was prescribed Mirtazapine an AD which i reluctantly took, however they have just added new symptoms like shaking and muscle twitching so I am trying to get off them. I too have cancelled our annual trip to Blackpool which was meant to be next week but just can't face it.
We will come out the other end of all this...... in one piece hopefully. ;D xx
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Hi Cheekygirl you have my total sympathy ! I hope things improve for you. It just seems if its not one thing it's something else. Will it never end! I also feel that everyone else is having a normal healthy life but me! Someone just text me their nails before a going to a do and I could have just sat and cried!!
Hang on in there! Sending lots of love! God knows we need it!
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I got my appointment come through for a week on Monday to see the consultant. I have had a rough few days with the acid and burning in the mouth and chest.
I have now turned to de-caff tea and have stopped eating high sugary foods and replaced it with fruit.
I went for a smear test on Monday and the nurse was concerned about my pulse and heart reading. I had already been sent for an ECG by my doctor a few weeks prior that came back ok as my readings were high then.
My blood pressure has been ok and don't know if all this worry about going to the hospital is making it go up as my biggest fear is having the camera down. She wants me to take readings for 2 weeks after I have been to the hospital. I really don't want to go on anymore tablets as I hate taking things that can cause other problems later on.
I feel like I get something sorted and something else pops up and it's never ending.
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I don't know if any of you ladies will be interested but I have been reading about a herbal supplement that has some great results for stomach problems.
It's called Iberogast and if you Google it then you can read the reviews and also trial data.
My sister uses it. She had her gall bladder removed a dew years ago and now has recurrent stomach issues.
She swears by this stuff and like quite a few of you hates the medication that the GP gives her.
It might be worth a look.
Honeyb
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Thank HB for that info, my sister has had her gallbladder removed and gets recurrent stomach problems, I will pass it on to her. Just off to google :)
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My sister also has "dumping syndrome" . She uses Tormentil drops to control that. The consultant did not tell her that she would be left with these issues :-\.
That might help your sister too SL. Both easily available on Amazon.
Honeyb
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Chloe I have ound camomile tea to be good. Once I dropped all caffeine I felt I was a lot better and minimal chocolate too but I have had the. Odd thortons choc with no effects. As I said before unfortunately the anxiety got me before I changed my diet and I am still battling it.! Had first hypnotherapy appointment yesterday which is proper hypno analysis not just relaxation and going again on Monday. I will let everyone know how it goes.
Love to all as we struggle on!
Did you find out Sparkle why they didn't mention your hiatus hernia.?xx
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I got my appointment come through for a week on Monday to see the consultant. I have had a rough few days with the acid and burning in the mouth and chest.
I have now turned to de-caff tea and have stopped eating high sugary foods and replaced it with fruit.
I went for a smear test on Monday and the nurse was concerned about my pulse and heart reading. I had already been sent for an ECG by my doctor a few weeks prior that came back ok as my readings were high then.
My blood pressure has been ok and don't know if all this worry about going to the hospital is making it go up as my biggest fear is having the camera down. She wants me to take readings for 2 weeks after I have been to the hospital. I really don't want to go on anymore tablets as I hate taking things that can cause other problems later on.
I feel like I get something sorted and something else pops up and it's never ending.
I'd be careful eating fruit, many fruits are very acidic, which will just make your symptoms worse. Bananas are pretty good though.
Also remember that decaf does not mean caffeine free, so don't drink too much.
I'll say it again. I swear by mastic gum capsules and I am a total skeptic when it comes to complimentary/ alternative medicines, they have been an enormous help as well as diet, Lansoprazole and gaviscon.
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Just bought mastic gum Laineywinks Do you take one a day ? Haveyou tried without the lansoprozole as I have managed to drop the omezparole now. You could probably do it with your diet gaviscon and gum. .i agree with you bannanas are really the only fruit i touch nowadays though you can get away with a few raspberries or strawberries on a bowl of porridge i have found. Camomile tea is all i have as well. What a life!!
Kellyxxx
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Just bought mastic gum Laineywinks Do you take one a day ? Haveyou tried without the lansoprozole as I have managed to drop the omezparole now. You could probably do it with your diet gaviscon and gum. .i agree with you bannanas are really the only fruit i touch nowadays though you can get away with a few raspberries or strawberries on a bowl of porridge i have found. Camomile tea is all i have as well. What a life!!
Kellyxxx
I take 2 mastic gum capsules a day and I did have to stop the Lansoprazole for a week before I had a H-Pylori test and my acid reflux was horrendous even though I was taking gaviscon and Zantac, so I've never tried since.
Porridge with skimmed milk is very good, I find it actually soothes my stomach and if you like honey (I can't stand it) that will make it even more beneficial.
Despite having my recent upsetting diagnosis, my digestive problems have remained stable, which surprised me. But I keep up with the cabbage intake and have live yogurt, Yakult and a pro biotic drink daily. So I can comfort eat and drink alcohol, when things really get to me :)
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Hi all found this conversation very interesting, I was on PPI for yrs but came off them a few months ago as they never helped, tried all sorts , Colofac helps but still have issues, I am on Amitriptyline for neck pain I also have IBS!!!! but like the sound of this Mastic gum, can you do you know take it while taking Colofac and Amitriptyline :) :)
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Sparkle, funny you should mention how when tummy is playing up you are aware of your heart & palpitations, that's what I was getting, and doc said the pain from the acid could be causing the palps, I have found taking a painkiller helps.
I am a bit of mess at the moment as trying to come off mirtazapine, so not sure what is causing what. Not been dressed for 3 days, managed to drag myself into the shower and put on fresh pjs, everything seems such an effort. As there is just me and my teenage son at home, I have found I am googling too much and overthinking, not a good idea I know.
Kelly, I know what you mean, I feel the same when I see pics of friends on nights out!
On a lighter note, son just came through, flopped down on sofa, fanning himself with a newspaper and said, I am sooooo hot, I think it must be my age ;D
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Had my daughter (22) home from Uni this weekend and she has been struggling with the heat as much as me, think it's cos we are pale red heads. Either that or she is company out in sympathy with her menopausal Mother!
That's so funny what your son said ;D
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Lady D, I must admit I did laugh at his comment, he is 15 so could well be his age. Are you down south? I hear the weather there has been very warm. I'm in Scotland and although not cold, we've had, grey skies, heavy rain with thunder n lightening!
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I'm in the Midlands and although we had a storm last night + heavy rain today still quite muggy and I never did copy well with humidity even pre-menopause! Now just makes matters worse :(
In Scotland soon for Commonwealth Games :)
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Hi all found this conversation very interesting, I was on PPI for yrs but came off them a few months ago as they never helped, tried all sorts , Colofac helps but still have issues, I am on Amitriptyline for neck pain I also have IBS!!!! but like the sound of this Mastic gum, can you do you know take it while taking Colofac and Amitriptyline :) :)
I take it with Amitriptyline, I think you can take it with anything. In Greece and Turkey they have chewing gum made
from it.
I also think vast amounts of cabbage help. some inmates in an American prison were given large amounts of cabbage for around 8 weeks and it cured their stomach ulcers.
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Lots of great extra tips from everyone here isn't there! I have amiltriptine to take for sleeping but do they work for anxiety at all. Mind you if I take one i am zonked out all day so have beenleaving them alone.
Happy new kitchen Sparkle. So jealous as mine is ancient but helping sons out with a flat and house so that has to wait for now!!
Lots of love
Kelly xxx
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I have tried camomile tea but didn't like it and made me feel sick afterwards. I have ginger and lemon tea which I do like. I only drink 3 cups of tea a day with the occasional tassimo coffee as a treat.
I used to eat biscuits and chocolates on a daily basis and can't say I miss them at the moment as I always suffered after eating them. I am eating bananas, cherries and strawberries and seem to ok on them after eating.
I bought a yoghurt maker last week so am eating some natural yoghurt each day, it's lovely with a drizzle of honey and tastes much nicer than shop bought ones.
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Sounds like you have your diet sorted Chloe. You have done really well. Sometimes I think you have to find out what are your personal triggers don't you.i know my doc said tea wouldn't be a problem but I know different!!
Kelly xxxx
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Sounds like you are really organised Sparkle! Enjoy that new kitchen !
The optician said my eyes hadn't changed for four years but I could still be helped by some glasses. She said i might be noticing my vision more as I am anxious. I just don't think i could cope with varifocals at the moment. More stress!!! Don't want three pairs of glasses either. When I went to try frames I mentioned that my vision was better through one pair .the girl looked at me strangely as I was looking through plain glass! We decided I would go back after I been in hospital to see if things had calmed down!! It's official I am strange!
Kelly xxx
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I know .why can't things be straightforward! I only need to see myself in mirror again but then can't think why I do at this age?
Xxxkelly
Had stress management today just talked for an hour felt a bit better afterwards. On Friday having next hypno analysis session where I speak back to him and we see what comes out. Should be interesting!!!
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Hi Kelly, haven't been on here for a while but glad to see you are feeling better. I wanted to say that blurred vision can be sometimes a temp side effect of ADs. If you have started an AD, could be that what is causing it. It does go away after a few weeks. ADs can also cause dry eyes, itchiness, etc.
Hope you will sort this out soon!
Mila x
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Hi Milamam no I haven't started the A DS . Just couldn't face any side effects as the blurred eyes are enough. Trying to manage anxiety myself but not easy.
See those things are why I really don't want them AD s only a last resort .
Anymore tips welcome though!
Kelly xx
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"Did you know that water can be either naturally alkaline or artificially alkaline?
"It's true. Naturally alkaline water has a chemical makeup that differs significantly from artificially alkaline water.
"More important, however, is the fact that artificially alkaline water causes side effects and should generally be avoided as a daily drinking water.
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I still don't understand how or why, during this thread, someone mentioned that there are drinking 'alkaline' water :-\
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It was me CLKD I drink the saka natural mineral water that has a higher ph than tap water. It has a nice taste too and is widely available from tesco etc.
Had general anaesthetic and consultant had good look at my throat yesterday and found nothing sinister so I feel a lot better today though obviously have a sore throat since they were poking around.
Still having the hypnotherapy with hypno analysis ( where you talk back) . The practioner said after a few sessions I wouldn't even think of talking the Ads and you know he was right i havnt. Mind you it's early days and I am a work in progress.
SPARKLE how are you doing lately ?
Kelly
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Had my 1st visit to see the consultant today. The Dr I was supposed to see had finished for the day and I was told I was seeing someone else. I am so glad I did he was so nice and understanding. He thinks it's acid reflux and is booking me in for a endoscopy and a scan to check my gall bladder to see if I have gall stones.
I told him about my grandma dying of stomach cancer and he said he wasn't concerned by that as she was in her 70's when diagnosed.
He was more concerned when my hubby told him my mum died at the age of 52 of bowel cancer. Apparently there is a blood test to see if you are more at risk of getting bowel cancel and he is going to ask someone in that field to see if they can arrange for me to be tested for it.
Even my own doctors have never mentioned this and is something that is offered at the age of 45 to those seen to be more at risk of it so I have gone 4 years over that. I think he will get me sorted out in the end and I can feel well once again.
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We are so changeable aren't we Sparkle. I am nowhere near as positive today.quite shaky really cos i keep mulling over what I have been through.i know I shouldn't as whats past is past isn't it.
You will soon be rustling up those healthy meals in your shiny new kitchen. It's understandable that your stomach is playing up when you are living upside down so to speak .
Glad you are getting sorted Chloe.
Kelly xxx
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Hopefully the GP will put you on PPIs to reduce your acid whilst your gullet heals. If it goes on too long, the walls of your oesophagus will scar and excess scarring (Barratts oesophagus) can lead to cancer.
This is not just a menopausal thing - I have had it years, and am only just gone through menopause now at 50.
If you are on any antidepressant meds, anti-inflammatories or muscle relaxants this can make it worse, as it can slacken the muscle at the top of the stomach and let more acid through.
Antacids/over the counter remedies often are taken after the acid has done its damage, so do not rely on them soley - discuss PPIs with the GP and see if they, or something else are an option (the side effects are few, and worth the reduction in cancer risk.
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On Monday I woke up with a dull pain under my left rib it was constant a bit like toothache pain and I did notice that I was burping a lot that day, anyway it went but this morning its back and its so annoying.I had my gallbladder out a few years ago could this be acid refllux?
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I have pain on and off under left boob which sometimes radiates to the side and under my arm, I also have upper abdominal burning, I was taking 20mg omeprozole twice daily but have tried cutting out the evening one and taking couple of rennies instead, this seems to have eased it a bit. Sometimes it was that bad I couldn't stand wearing a bra. Had endoscopy which revealed nothing, so it was put down to non ulcer dyspepsia, in other words, indigestion. I guess it's more common ln the left side as that's where the stomach lies. Try drinking a glass of water half hour before meals that can help with digestion. :)
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Thanks for the answers it is down to stress I have had a lot the past few weeks my gp has prescribed omzerprozol so I hope this works.It helps to no others are going through the same things if you no what I mean !!!
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Glad your results okay Sparkle. Hope the kitchen is coming on nicely! As I said they lookd at my throat under anaesthetic and everything was fine but since then I have had a really bad throat stopping me sleeping and everything and I my anxiety that I had workd so hard on has gone through the roof. I hope the throat is due to the investigation and not my old throat coming back as I just couldn't cope with that again. I am So low I have started the citalopram10mg yesterday along with 2mg of diazepam three times a day as doc recommended. Feel so nausea can't eat and just don't want to lose any more weight. I have lost a stone already. Really didn't want to take the ad but need my life back . Just hope and pray it helps as I just spent two days in bed .
Sorry folks just feeling sorry for myself !
Kelly
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Doc said take ad before bed so I did and not as sicky today but still feel a bit weird. Only had three pills so far as well! I know I have to keep going with them to lighten my mood otherwise I just fixate on my throat and my health all the time. I am still carrying on with the hypnotherapy as well. I didn't want to tie them Sparkle but had to for my families sake really as I couldn't carry on the way I was.
I know how you feel I can't stand being upside down but it will be so worth it!!
No more appointments other than monthly check at docs .ENT don't need to see me again so that's good i suppose.
Big hug back to youxxxxxxx
Ps doc yesterday said many just take omprezanol and lansoprozole as nd when they feel they need it or maybe just a couple a week .thats interesting isn't it !
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Oh that sounds painful Sparkle. Get it checkd when you are at docs as well. Doesn't it feel like we always have a health problem to focus on! Let me know what they say about your hiatus hernia. Doc told me to just take omeprozole as and when I needed it or couple of times a week. In fact he gave me lansoprozole as he prefers it. I am one week into AD and still feel very anxious in morning and worrying that they may make my blurry eyes worse. Also I am still feeling bit sicky on them with not much appetite . Doc said perceive but it's hard. When will I feel benefit and will sickness go? The nightmare continues !
Help!!!!!!
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Had my endoscopy this morning and as everyone said it was ok. I can only remember retching a bit but as I was sedated it didn't bother me.
They only found some polyps in my stomach, everything else was ok. Will have to wait and see if the scan of my gall bladder tomorrow shows anything.
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Oh poor you. Will you return to the same Dept.?
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I am convinced that heartburn is to do with the menopause! Both me and my sister has it too, she also had her throat checked with ENT consultant as she felt that she had a lump, there was no lump,but, he told her it was quite a common sensation in the menopause, there tends to be a lot of undisclosed symptoms, so hey ho we carry on regard less, still I am so glad I don't have periods, as mine were horrendous, often leaving something behind on seats, very unpleasant.
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Hello! Haven't been on in a while but I'm having some stomach issues right now as well.
My heartburn isn't too bad only after certain foods and if I bend around too much after eating but it has got worse since meno along with anxiety.
I'm also have probs at the moment with I think trapped gas either in stomach or in guts around that area. Very gurgly but I think it's also pressing on vagus nerve making me feel weird and messing up breathing and palps. I had a dreadful night last night and very scary as on my own and being on my own at night creates anxiety - viscious circle!
I don't know why I've started getting this although I have had a rough year, could it be delayed reaction?
I've got some gas busting pills which seem to help but is there anything else to stop this fluttering as it's driving me nuts! Seems to be worse sitting or lying down.
I'll see the doc as soon as I can, wonder about hiatus hernia as I can't do deep breathing very well! I try in yoga but I'm out of breath after 4 counts!
Any ideas on stopping the fluttering would be appreciated.
Fed up with meno and anxiety!
Cheers ladies
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Had my scan today and was expecting just my gall bladder being done to check for stones but he did kidneys and all the other areas in the abdomen as well.
Hoping to see the consultant if the results of the scan don't show anything don't know if I will. I want to ask about the polyps that they found as I know that some can change to cancer. Also as I have acid reflux I am worried that this could also cause them to change later on. I would rather have them removed.
For anyone that has to have an endoscopy and is scared like I was go for the sedation with the throat spray you don't know anything about it. I was retching a bit but it didn't bother me as I was too out of it. I woke up feeling fine had a sandwich and a drink then left.
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Thanks Sparkle! Hope you had a fruitful trip back to the GP.
I'm still getting it a little even though I've relaxed a bit in the last week. Woke up this morning with gurgles in the same area but has gone off now. I can be fine and then I think about it and it can start up, so I don't know maybe it's my brain to gut messages going weird. I had food poisoning a few weeks back followed by upper stomach cramps for a few days so I've not been eating to full since then anyway. I had this before that but it has been worse since then so that could be connected.
I have to go to the docs soon anyway, so I'll leave it for a couple of weeks to monitor now things have settled down a bit.
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Doc said take ad before bed so I did and not as sicky today but still feel a bit weird. Only had three pills so far as well! I know I have to keep going with them to lighten my mood otherwise I just fixate on my throat and my health all the time. I am still carrying on with the hypnotherapy as well. I didn't want to tie them Sparkle but had to for my families sake really as I couldn't carry on the way I was.
I know how you feel I can't stand being upside down but it will be so worth it!!
No more appointments other than monthly check at docs .ENT don't need to see me again so that's good i suppose.
Big hug back to youxxxxxxx
Ps doc yesterday said many just take omprezanol and lansoprozole as nd when they feel they need it or maybe just a couple a week .thats interesting isn't it !
Hi Kelly sweetie
AD can take depending on the one anything up to 3 weeks to work so just chill and it will help ok big hugs xxx
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Thanks SuziQ I am still taking 10mg of citalopram but been back to the docs as feel exhausted in the morning with aching limbs pins and needles and seem to be breaking out in sweats all the time. She put it down to the anxiety but then I looked at the citalopram side effects and they are all the common ones! Luckily I havnt increased to 20mg as she recommended. It's too much of a coincidence that I am getting these isnt it? I was convinced I was getting ME or something. I think I might try and cut down to one every other day. any one else experienced anything like this?
Hi Sparkle how are you and your new kitchen! I haven't been on for a while as I hve been so exhausted i just been lying in bed. I know I shouldn't be so making an effort to get up and get busy again but still very tired.
Xxxxxxxx
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Hi Kelly
saw your other post. You might be 4 years past meno but there are lots of reasons to take HRT to keep you well.
How many times do we have to put up with Doc's who are just so wrong and only passing their opinion, not facts.
Please if you do go back and ask for HRT, please ensure that you get an option out of the following link:
http://www.menopausematters.co.uk/postmeno.php
Best of luck
:-*
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Thanks peegeetip I have lost all faith in docs lately . three docs have told me I don't need it. Also I have been to three different docs about other symtoms I am having and I have just realised they are all said effects of citalopram!
Kelly
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Hi Kelly,
one of the side effects I find most worrying on these AD's (not all but some of them) is lower blood pressure.
You might think that's a good effect but it can give us dizziness and possible faints/falls.
The reverse is worse when we stop.
Often there is a bounce back in the blood pressure which raises our pressure.
Obviously there are issues about raising your blood pressure especially if it pushes us into "high" levels.
Would be interested if the Doc mentioned that to you?
The AD's will also have an effect on your gut, often slowing things down in other "things" too.
Sorry you've had such an experience with Doc's, don't loose faith, be firm and ask for what you want.
Its not a cost thing tell them as most HRT costs less than these Statins they keep trying to give us :)
The other silly thing is we're not screened for some of the things that conti HRT will help protect us from in the longer term, so it does help.
If you want to discuss the Citalopram then perhaps goto the private lives part of the forum.
:-*
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Thanks peegeetip I do feel very lightheaded too actually. Thanks fr all your advice.i m going to try to wean myself off them.
Kelly xx
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Cipralex and Citalopram have helped my depression and I had no nausea or gut problems at all. It does depend on how large a dose though, fortunately I can use 5mg x 2 with the odd hike if necessary.
If I take medication too late in the evening though then I get reflux >:(
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Hi CKLD I am on 10mg too but have been having aching joints and sweats in the morning . On checking the leaflets these seem to be common side effects though my doc said nothing when I asked what they cud be. She advised me to up them and I am so pleased. I didn't. I am going to try one every other day and visit id again on Monday to discuss. I didn't take one last night and guess what I have no problems this morning!
Hi Sparkle yes I have been lying in bed too much but I have rallied round a bit. I am back on omezprazole every day now and my throat isn't bad . I pray it will last !
Glad you. Are happy with the kitchen. Are u still struggling with reflux . Can't beleve you are having more scans . How does the liver cysts effect you? Can they do anything about them? Big hugs right back?
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Hi Kelly, I am sorry that you are not doing so well on citaloptam. These are really initial days so it does take time for the AD to have any effect. Also, have in mind that omezprazole and other PPIs , especially lansoprazole, disturb the absorbtion of citalopram. Please read the leaflets of your PPI. If you are not absorbing well and you are still on day two- three, there is not much to be expected from the AD in terms of effects on anxiety, etc. if I were you I would discuss with your GP these drug interaction issues.
I was started on 10 mg citalopram for two weeks before increasing to 20 mg and I didn't have any side effects. I am on 20mg for about a year now and don't even want to think about weaning myself off, not at least the time comes when I am confident all perimeno issues are under control. BUT, it is also important to have in mind that, alike HRT, antidepressants work differently for different people and it is a bit trial and error to get to the one that matches you the most.
Good luck!
Milamam xxx
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Thanks Milamam for that advice. Why don't the docs mention these things to you? I have been on the citalopram fr 6 weeks now and I am not having any anxiety just the side effects. As I said before the doc just blamed these on anxiety when one look at the leaflet states they are common side effects. I just give up lately you hve to research everything yourself before you even go to the docs. One last week told me to take one and a half citalopram . You can't divide them can you? I am certain that another doc told me! I am trying one 10 mg every other day to see if I can reduce the aches etc.
Kellyxx
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Hi Kelly, my doctor who prescribed lanzoprazole did not mention this interaction but Imusually carfully read the leaflets and noticed that citalopram was mentioned explicitly, and not generically (i.e. Antidepressants). I called back the doctor but she said no problem, take lanzorazole in the evening and citalopram in the morning. But I decided not to take the PPI, as citalopram is more important for me right now.
Here is more info on drugs.com: http://www.drugs.com/drug-interactions/citalopram-with-omeprazole-679-0-1750-0.html Omeprazole can increase th level of citalopram in the blood thus increasing the initial side effects.
I always do my own research as I know doctors focus on only one problem/symptom and often are not concerned about what else is going on. I then go and ask questions. It is a shame but this is how it is, unfortunately.
Milamam
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I am beginning to realise Milamam that you are right. Believe it or not I have been taking both pills together at night! I didn't read that in the leaflet but I will certainly start taking my omezparole in the morning as I find I sleep really well if I take the citalopram at night.
I have hardly been ill since this latest episode and as I said before I have been disapointed by the doctors attitudes. Did you get the sweating , aches and tiredness in the first six weeks ? Does it go away do you know?
Thankyou so much for all your advice.
Hugs Kelly xxxx
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Hi Kelly, yes it will be probably best to take one in the AM and the other in the PM. Hopfully your side effects will ease up. I didn't get any side effects on citalopram when I started it but I tried to change to a different AD this spring (a different doctor thought a different AD will,suit me better), and i got all the side effects as listed on the leaflet - extreme tiredness, nausea, acid stomach, confusion, dizziness, name it. I was convinced this is not the AD for me and switched back to citalopram. Side effects disappeared immediately, within one day. So, as I said before and what I have heard, you ve got to find the AD that suits you best, different ADs work differently for different people.
Good luck and hugs,
Milamam
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Thanks Milamam I will take them separately from now on. You have been more help than the docs!!
Kellyxx
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Sparkle - I had a scan for kidney problems last year and this showed liver cysts as an "incidental finding". I was told that they are often incidental findings and around 7% of people of them - more common in women. They don't usually cause symptoms and liver function tests are usually normal.
Taz x
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Poor Sparkle its just one thing after another isn't it! Sending u an overdue hug.
Kelly xxx
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I am not too bad today. Cutting back on the citalopram .still getting sore mouth, tongue and little bit of bad throat most days. Think that's whats keeping my anxiety going. Got first nhs CBT appointment on Monday. Only 30 mins though doesn't seem enough. Feel docs given up on me as its nothing serious. I am trying a new lady doctor. Hopefully she will be a bit better though she didnt recognise side effects of citalopram and told me to go home and increase them. Thank god I finally looked at the leaflet. It just goes on and on doesn't it?
Let me know how you get on.
At least you have your lovely new kitchen to sit in !!!!
KELLY xx
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Great news, Sparkle, it is so relieving to know everything below the ribs is healthy/normal.
Milamam
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So pleased everything is okay Sparkle
Kelly xxxx