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Menopause Discussion => All things menopause => Topic started by: Spangles on March 23, 2014, 08:52:54 AM

Title: Norethisterone v Utrogestan
Post by: Spangles on March 23, 2014, 08:52:54 AM
Hi ladies
Many of you have read and replied to my thread about long cycle HRT.
I have used noresthisterone and it been awful, it has left me low and feeling more anxious than before I took it. I have been reading about how much people prefer utrogestan on other threads. Can anyone explain the differences to me please and why so many of you prefer it to norethisterone? I am planing a visit to the GP and I want to be as informed as possible as the last time I mentioned it to her she said she had never heard of it!
Thanks
Shellb
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Title: Re: Norethisterone v Utrogestan
Post by: meno lesley on March 23, 2014, 09:06:22 AM
Hi

My doctor had never heard of it but have use 100mg for 25 days out of 28 alongaside estrogel. This is my fifth attempt at hrt and has been the best for me. I found the other progesterones made me feel that I was all over the place.

Hope you get on ok at the doctors.

Lesley x
Title: Re: Norethisterone v Utrogestan
Post by: Spangles on March 23, 2014, 09:14:22 AM
Thanks for replying si quickly.
So to get this right I need to ask for micronised? And is it used vaginally? If so how does that work then? And also estrogel? Do these things work better than patches?
Thank again
Confused
Shellb
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Title: Re: Norethisterone v Utrogestan
Post by: meno lesley on March 23, 2014, 09:30:57 AM
I like estrogel as you can tweak it a bit to suit. I think if you ask for micronised progesterone it will come up on the PC at docs and utrogestan does not. I have tried utrogestan vaginally but started some bleeding so went back to taking it orally. I do get muscle and joint pain but not sure if this is just me or hrt. That said this regime has helped all the other things I had going on.

Lesley x
Title: Re: Norethisterone v Utrogestan
Post by: Victoria on March 23, 2014, 01:10:46 PM
Stellajane, or anyone else in the know, do you have to use an applicator to insert Utrogestan vaginally? And how far up does it have to go? I am using Utrogestan 200mg orally on days 15-26 of my cycle but struggling with tiredness and mood swings. I'm interested to give this way a try x
Title: Re: Norethisterone v Utrogestan
Post by: honeybun on March 23, 2014, 01:59:15 PM
No there is no applicator. I could not tolerate utrogestan vaginally as it made my bladder feel very funny, in fact quite painful.

I would not mention to a GP you were thing of using it this way. They are generally wary of something they are not familiar with. It's a case of what they don't know won't hurt them. The dose is the same, the amount of days taken are the same. All the GP has to know is its being taken as prescribed. They just don't have to know what orifice is being used  ;).


Honeyb
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Title: Re: Norethisterone v Utrogestan
Post by: Sarah2 on March 23, 2014, 04:26:11 PM
Just a word putting the other side- I used Norethisterone 5mgs x 10 days bi-monthly for 5 years almost and had few side effects. All progestins seem to make me more bad tempered and feel slightly bloated but I don't feel for me there is a huge difference in Utrogestan and Norethisterone except the effects of Utrogestan are less noticeable. I have changed due to safety issues with Utrogestan being safer re. breast cancer according to some research.
Title: Re: Norethisterone v Utrogestan
Post by: Rowan on March 24, 2014, 10:39:45 AM
I think women sometimes give up mainly because of the progestin/progesterone side-effects of HRT.

Norethisterone because of its testosterone like action, and  Utrogestan daily (when taking to shed the lining )  the amount you have to take is almost the equivalent to supporting a pregnancy. It can be taxing as your body gets older.

Sadly HRT is not an exact science,  if you do have a hysterectomy and take only estrogen, this can lead to weight gain and estrogen overload even after menopause.

Hormones are very powerful, even are own can cause problems.

Its all a balancing act.