Menopause Matters Forum
Menopause Discussion => All things menopause => Topic started by: Wombat on February 28, 2014, 12:17:52 AM
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:'(so here I am really wanting to sleep but oh no mrs meno has other ideas
Counted sheep, listened to relaxation but mind a bit like tigger, bouncing along from one thing to the next
......and here comes a flush, followed closely by an anxiety Mexican tingly wave complete with morbid thoughts....
Rant over!!!!!
Thanks xxx
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May I join you Wombat!!!!!!2.55am. What a joke........ :'(
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.... and me! Woke up at 4am for no apparent reason. Tried reading, meditation, sheep counting but the mind refuses to switch off! :o
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Room for another one? Been awake with flushes, etc since 4. Don't know how I'm going to be fit for work... What a carry on :-\
Mags x
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Did you manage to sleep eventually ladies? I know exactly how you feel & sympathise.
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Yes - and what seemed like moments later the alarm clock went off :cuss:
How did everyone else fair?
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Lack of sleep was my primary reason for using HRT. My body clock completely changed and I used to be wide awake when my head hit the pillow and woke several times a night.
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I know exactly how you feel. I started Magnesium supplements about a month ago and this has really helped my anxiety and hot flushes. Are you on Magnesium?
Shazzie xx
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I know exactly how you feel. I started Magnesium supplements about a month ago and this has really helped my anxiety and hot flushes. Are you on Magnesium?
Shazzie xx
Hi Shazzie
I've got magnesium powder.
How much should i use for anxiety.
If you use magnesium tablets how many mgs magnesium do you use.
Thanks
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Hello ladies,
Yep sleep did come eventually and oh yes the alarm went off......Saturday tomorrow so hopefully a lie in !!!!!!
I too take magnesium a total of 400mg a night, I use magnesium citrate as you need to use one which is absorbable
So good luck tonight, I wish you all a relaxed nights sleep.....
:-*
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Likewise ladies. Hope we don't end up posting in the wee small hours ;)
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Well last night I took a rescue remedy capsule, clarted my pulse points with calming aromatherapy oils & hoped for the best. Got about 5 hours. TBH rescue remedy doesn't really work for me, but better than nowt. So off to try it again tonight.
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At it again....lying here looking at the walls and ceiling for inspiration !!!!
I think I must go through a cycle of meno symptoms as I seem to have 3 or 4 nights with v little sleep then manage to sleep ok :-\
Wondering if it is a self fulfilling prophecy now !!!
Ah well.... I will just plan what to do with the millions I am going to win on the lottery tomorrow night ;D ;D ;D
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When sleeping became difficult I worked out that it was better to go to bed later. If I went to bed at around 11 I would sleep till 1 and then lie awake for ages. By going at around 12.30-1 o'clock I then slept for four hours (only waking every forty minutes or so for a few minutes) which took me to 5. I then dozed for the hour before the alarm went off. Four to five hours became enough for me to function ok. I never had lie ins as this totally disrupts your pattern and also never slept in the day because this also upsets everything. I've never liked sleep though - might miss something! I know I am a bit different as I can never understand how anyone just falls asleep watching tv because there is always that moment (for me anyway) when you know you are about to fall asleep and so you can get up and stop it happening. My husband can't understand that and falls asleep even when there's something interesting he wants to watch.
Nowadays, without HRT, none of this is relevant as I wake every forty-five minutes with a hot flush/sweat. :meltdown:
One day, ladies, we will all sleep properly again but, in the meantime, getting worried, stressed and uptight about it only makes things worse.
Taz x :hug:
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As you can tell by the lack of posts, I slept well. Woke up briefly at 4:00am but went straight back to sleep till 7:45am! :banana:
After some lovely red wine, I slathered an aromatherapy night cream on my face, popped an antihistamine tablet and read my book till my eyes felt heavy. I hope I can break the early waking habit soon. :)
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Hiya
I take a 300mg tablet just before I go to bed and since I have been taking them I am being woken by the alarm clock rather than lying there with a pounding heart from around 3ish.
They also help palpitations.
I got mine from Asda for £1 but they sooooo work.
Shazzie xx
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I haven't worked out how you do the in quotes thing but Taz when you said getting worried stressed ....... Only make things worse how right you are. Now if only I could tell the pixie who keeps giving me an adrenaline shot at 2am to stop I would be a lot better ;)
Is does sound like you are having a tough time Taz and I take my hat off to you. What a shame your fallback patches are out of date but I assume your GP would replace them with in date ones.
My husband can fall asleep with seconds of his head hitting to pillow and has a regular bedtime come what may!
Lubylou
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Hey lubylou I think your pixie is sharing the adrenaline shots out tonight .....
I'm thinking about starting an early morning ??? Talking shop for those of us wide awake bunnies....
Hope you all manage to stay in a pleasant dream world tonight xx
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I sleep when my body tells me to. Otherwise I get headachy and queasy. In the bath, on the settee with a quilt, in the car when DH is doing his hobbies ……….. it never interrupts my night sleep, if I'm going to sleep I will - face down quite quickly - if not ::)
What is waking me for the last year around 3.30 isn is deep, burning pains in both thighs ……… I think it's postural and fortunately the right thigh is improving but oh the pain in the left :(. I don't think I turn over enough times!
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Awake due to reflux. I love steak pie but not if it's going to do this in the wee small hours. :(
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Oh Galadriel no more steak pie !!!
What a shame.....
I have started trying to eat more at lunch time and less at night....in an attempt to stop the fat creeping around my middle too
:'(
Happy sleep tonight xx
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Morning Wombat.
I slept ok last night - a Diphenhydramine tablet knocked me out. The trouble is, I think the side effects of talking it are worse than not sleeping.
It made my anxiety feel 10 times worse than normal - twitchy muscles too. I feel awful this morning :'(
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So no more knock-out tablets for me and no surprises I was awake at 4.00am! :o
Anybody else get really twitchy muscles? It almost feels as if my muscles are so tired they tremble. :-\
Maybe it's time I got some magnesium citrate?!
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Do you suffer from anxiety Galadriel? This can cause twitchy muscles. Thyroid problems can also be a cause.
Taz x
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I have all these sleep problems and its really getting me down can you tell me are the ladies here with sleep problems taking HRT I am but it is not working for me.
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Hi Anjia - I found when on HRT that my sleep was better but I have never slept well anyway so am quite used to it.
What sort of sleep problems do you have?
Taz x :hug:
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I was worse, off HRT, but TBH I've struggled off & on even on HRT. I do miss a good nights sleep.
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Hi Taz2,
Yes I do suffer from anxiety. I had a lid on it up till this weekend. I wonder if it gets worse for me on the run up to my period - due this weekend.
Must remember to write it down so I can try to spot a pattern.
Anjia - I'm on Prempak-c 0.625mg but will be changing to climagest 1mg this weekend to see if things improve.
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I was always much worse leading up to a period and the night before hardly slept at all. GAD has muscle tension and twitching as a symptom so it may all be related http://psychcentral.com/disorders/generalized-anxiety-disorder-symptoms/
Taz x
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Hi Taz2,
I've had GAD twice before, and successfully treated with AD. I was hoping to not go down that route again but might have to consider it. :-\
I wonder if it's back because I'm peri?
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I think after just reading from Taz2 about GAD this is what I have it seems like how I am feeling and have felt for a very long time,the thing is with me I am fine most days but it is always at night I suffer.Then again if I have a real bad night I suffer through the day! I have told my gp so many times about my anxiety but have never been offered any medication the last time it was really bad I was crying in the doctors room he give me a leaflet to take home and read up with some internet site I did, but it made me feel worse !!!
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Hi Anjia,
How is a blooming leaflet meant to make you feel better? :hug:
Time to see a different GP.
After reading Taz2's link, I really do think I'm back there again and have been since last August :-\
I'm going to see how I feel on the new hrt before I march back and demand some treatment :valkyrie:
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Thankyou Galadriel I am going to do exactly that to !!
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Was it Living Life to the Full Anjia?
Taz x
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I cant really remember but I do no there were a lot of people on there talking about how they felt suicidel and couldent take anymore I really did feel for them but felt oh my god Im not that bad,It made me feel awful.
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This is the one my doc directed me too. It is quite good in terms of lifting your mood which can also help with the anxious feelings http://www.llttf.com/
Taz x
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Hi Galadriel
Been away so unable to post......tried red wine last night ! Didn't work...
I also get twitchy legs, sometimes anxiety driven but other times just because I am soooooo tired.
Magnesium citrate - I am now taking 600mg per night. I am going to try taking it an hour before I go to bed.... I will let you know
Thinking about trying to set up a menopause support group at work....there seems to be a real resistance to share information
I seem to cycle through symptoms, hoping I might cycle out of not sleeping soon, I have started exercising - well walking, nothing drastic - and this seems to help
Here's hoping we all sleep well tonight Xx
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Hi Wombat,
I had a bucket of wine on Saturday night and I still woke up ::)
I think my twitchiness is a combination of anxiety and tiredness too.
I think I'll start with 300mg to see how I go.
So far I've shared this site with two ladies at work. One of them goes power walking with me at lunchtime to feed the ducks. Makes us both feel a little happier and gets us out of the office, away from the computer screen!
I may cycle out of this in time for the dawn chorus to wake me up instead ;D
Fingers crossed neither of us sees stupid o'clock tomorrow morning ;)
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Daily mail article today. All about ladies taking testosterone and huge benefits. Feeling sexy, womanly again and lots of symptoms going. Common knowledge? Controversial?
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I'm not sure it's hugely common knowledge.
I did know about it as I worked in women's healthcare for 15 years - contraceptive pills and hrt, and yes I am aware of the irony that I know so little about this phase in our lives.
We were taught about sweats and flushes, VA, osteoporosis, CV disease but not so much about the psychological effects! The more I think about it, the more I'm annoyed that this huge aspect was ignored!!!
The menopause clinics I visited used testosterone patches for some ladies but it was very new to the market at the time.
I'd forgotten that testosterone is involved in depression and anxiety - but then it has been 8 years since I left that field and I have quite a leaky brain at the moment ::)
Makes interesting reading libbyloo x
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Hi
Interesting reading about testosterone
I had an implant a few years ago to try to help with loss of libido......it did nothing but give me a great big bruise in my tummy where it was implanted.....my gynae told me a good holiday would work just as well.
Ps. Neither helped!
:)
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Recently, my normally lovely sleep pattern vanished. Tossing and turning, reading MM at 2am. Over last five nights I've had a lettuce and salad cream wholemeal sandwich for supper. Sleep restored!!!! Yummy toooo x
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Lettuce does the job libbyloo, I have been known to buy it just for that http://www.thirdage.com/sleep/let-lettuce-help-you-sleep
You can get the herbal pills too.
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I love lettuce and salad cream sandwiches, I had forgotten all about them .i will certainly try that x
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Here I am in the wee small hours, listening to himself snoring LOUDLY & the birds twittering away outside. Vivid dream woke me, but can no longer remember its content. Clocks have gone forward, depriving me of an hour of much needed slumber. Oh & to top it off it's Mother's Day, when us mums are meant to be pampered. Not much chance of that! Although I am having lunch over at son's later, so maybe, just maybe I can stay in bed until it's time to go. ::)
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Have a lovely day CG. HOPE YOUR SPOILT ROTTEN X
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I am getting to sleep ok but keep wakening up so early. I was up yesterday and fed the dog and took a cuppa back to bed by 6am :o.
I took hubby a cuppa too.....I really think he thinks I have gone mad.
As soon as my eyes open I need to get out of bed and then of course the dog thinks it's breakfast time. Anxiety is never great in the early morning so that does not help things either.
Honeyb
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That's what I miss, I have to get up as soon as I am awake, once upon a time I enjoyed the sleepy relaxed feeling when I woke up.
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Hey ladies
I take HRT and have since last year. I find I sleep too much or is it my ages? I can sleep from 10pm until 7am ...sickening I know but wish I didn't need quite so much sleep, but then I get tired after a long day at work ...Stressful job at that xxxx
Hugs
Mrs J xxx
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I'm lucky if I can manage 5 or so hours nowadays. Last night was about 4. :(
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Hey Cubagirl
Bless you , you must get so tired. I have no remedy, juts avoid all caffeine and alcohol. I only drink green tea, I have a lovely light but soft blanket and a cold bedroom.....
Hugs
Mrs J xxxx
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Thanks Mrs J. Caffeine rarely passes my lips. I have a cold bedroom too, light duvet, with a light blanket in case I need it.
Hope I sleep better tonight. Fingers crossed.