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Title: Menopause depression
Post by: tearful1 on February 12, 2014, 12:37:11 PM
I have joined after seeing Patsy Kensit on This Morning & reading some of the posts make me feel better to know other people feel the same as me. My Mum sailed through her menopause so I hoped to do the same but a I feel emotionally wrecked. Finally went to the doctor yesterday but she prescribed anti depressants. I am not one for taking medication & having read the leaflet I am reluctant to start them, have had some support on another forum but all different views so not really helped my make the decision whether to start them. The sensible me knows it's just my hormones but I'm struggling to cope & almost resigned from work. I thought the GP would offer advice not a prescription for anti depressants!
Title: Re: Menopause depression
Post by: honeybun on February 12, 2014, 12:46:17 PM


 :welcomemm:

It would help us if you give us a few more details. How old are you and do you still have a period. Don't want to bombard you with too many questions but if you can tell us your symptoms then there is plenty of members with good advice.

A lot of us have come away from the GP with anti depressants when what we need is HRT.

Browse around and ask questions. There is always someone around for a chat.


Honeyb
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Title: Re: Menopause depression
Post by: tearful1 on February 12, 2014, 12:54:06 PM
I will be 52 next week, my periods are erratic, (last one end on December) I am crying a lot, feeling unable to cope at work. Having hot flushes although I don't find them too troublesome. It feels like permanent PMT. I feel guilty but have no idea why. The doctor didn't want to risk HRT although didn't really say why. She felt I needed anti depressants to stop me crying.
Title: Re: Menopause depression
Post by: CLKD on February 12, 2014, 01:13:33 PM
Take the ADs for 3-4 months so that you can begin to see the wood for the trees.  Weepyness is common.  By then you will see if the ADs help at all.

Read the menus, left of screen.  PMT can be eased by eating every 3 hours, even through the night.  Helps keep blood sugar levels even - I graze on dried fruits/nuts, biscuits, bananas.  The idea is not to eat more but to spread your diet throughout 24 hours.

How old is your GP?  I think you should have a talk with your Practice Nurse if she is 'our' age ……… have a well woman check, i.e. BP, smear, general health discussion and find out what the Surgeries policy is regarding HRT.

Go back to your GP and ask her to explain her worries regarding HRT and refer her here ;-)

Browse round!
Title: Re: Menopause depression
Post by: tearful1 on February 12, 2014, 01:19:35 PM
Thanks for the advice CLKD, the GP I saw was very young. There is an older doctor but she is not very sympathetic. I saw the nurse a while back & she suggested HRT but I wasn't as bad then. I think I will go back & ask what my options are, do you think it will be easy to come off the AD after 3-4 months? I am worried about being on them long term!
Title: Re: Menopause depression
Post by: CLKD on February 12, 2014, 01:21:46 PM
What has the GP prescribed?  ADs don't stay in the system for very long.  The longest I took to wean off one was 9 weeks.  After 3-4 months you will feel if they are doing good: or not.  Some take 2-3 months before the beneficial effects can be felt.

Let us know how you get on!
Title: Re: Menopause depression
Post by: Greyhoundgal on February 12, 2014, 01:22:18 PM
Welcome to the forum - your story sounds similar to mine!  My GP was keen to prescribe AD's but I wasn't so keen to go on them.  After seeing our Nurse Practitioner who specialises in menopause she recommended that I start on HRT, she explained that in a lot of cases (not all obviously) the boost to hormones from the HRT was quite often enough to sort out the emotional side of things.  In my case she was spot on and within a week I was seeing improvements so it might be worth going back to your surgery and see if you can get an appointment with someone a bit more menopause savvy?  It was also her that pointed me in the direction of this site and it's wonderful forum :)
Title: Re: Menopause depression
Post by: tearful1 on February 12, 2014, 01:28:31 PM
To CLKD I have been prescribed Citalopram 10mg for 1 week then 20mg & supposed to go back after 3 weeks. Thanks for your help :)

To Greyhoundgal that sounds like what I need as I know my sadness is hormonal, thank you :)
Title: Re: Menopause depression
Post by: CLKD on February 12, 2014, 01:29:58 PM
I take 5mg of that at night and 5mg in the morning.  I have organic depression since 1988.  If you feel your tearfulness is hormonal then maybe wait, have another talk with your GP ……… 10mg is a starting dose …….
Title: Re: Menopause depression
Post by: honeybun on February 12, 2014, 01:32:09 PM
Why take an AD if it's a hormonal problem. Your GP is very wrong about your age. You are the absolute right age for menopause.

Have a look at the menu on the left for detailed information, print it off and go back to your doctor. You have the right to the correct treatment and you can insist. I know you will feel fragile so if you can take someone with you for support then that would be great.


Honeyb
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Title: Re: Menopause depression
Post by: tearful1 on February 12, 2014, 01:34:55 PM
Thanks ladies, I feel I have had better advice here in the last hour than I received from my GP, you are all wonderful thank you :)
Title: Re: Menopause depression
Post by: Hurdity on February 12, 2014, 05:38:53 PM
Hi tearful1

 :welcomemm: from me too

Your symptoms sound very very normal for peri-meno and I felt as you did - always bursting into tears at the slightest thing and I found everything such a big deal

I agree 100% with honeybun. Your doctor should not prescribe you anti-depressants for a hormonal problem unless there is a good medical reason why you should not be on HRT.

Personally I would not start them if you can hang in there. Your doctor is taking the easy option.

Read as much as you can on here and if possible go back to a different doctor who understands the menopause and is sympathetic to HRT. If you read the menu on the left you will find so much information. The benefits are thought to exceed the risks between the age of 50 and 60
http://www.menopausematters.co.uk/balance.php

Dr Currie herself (a consultant gynae who started and runs this site) does not think ADs should be prescribed in the first instance for hormonal anxiety that has come on, or been greatly exacerbated by the menopause and would recommend HRT.

The HRT stopped me crying - and now you know what the cause is hopefully you can cope a little better until you get the proper treatment your body needs.

Hurdity x


Title: Re: Menopause depression
Post by: tearful1 on February 12, 2014, 05:45:21 PM
Thank you so much Hurdity, that has reinforced my thoughts that antidepressants are wrong for me. I am otherwise healthy so don't know why she felt HRT was a risk, she didn't ask any questions in regard to my health or family history, although to be honest, I would prefer not to take any medication at all. Thanks for your support :)
Title: Re: Menopause depression
Post by: Chatty on February 15, 2014, 08:50:58 AM
I tried anti depressants and felt rubbish. I felt ill the whole time. Long story but I took hrt for only a few days and felt fantastic. I sometimes think that ad are the easy way out for gp's.
Title: Re: Menopause depression
Post by: bev567901 on February 15, 2014, 12:17:35 PM
Hi Tearful, I am 52 this year & started peri a year ago. I went down hill fast & by last Sept was prescribed an AD. I think if I had got HRT straight away it would never have got to that stage. I feel like it is a plaster for a broken leg. However, I do think the AD has helped. I actually phoned into This Morning & got through to a person but was not on the show. They phoned me back & boyed by that I booked an appt at my GP's for next month & I shall be demanding HRT as the first caller that day sounded just like me (and you!) With all the knowledge I have off here & other places I think I am able to fight my corner now & the AD has helped me with that too.  I am a long way from normal & know it is a hormonal thing & not another type of depression/anxiety. I want the old me back. I am going to write a lot of notes & I am not a very forceful person at all but I think I can do it. My life is being extremely compromised now & I have two under 10's,  so don't wait as long as I have to fight your corner. I will make sure I keept you up to date but appt is not until March 3rd. B x
Title: Re: Menopause depression
Post by: tearful1 on February 16, 2014, 07:53:49 PM
Thanks Chatty & Bev, it seems we are all feeling the same, I hope you both feel better very soon. I have ordered a couple of books about the menopause so will be interesting to see if any good ideas in them, will let you know. However, I do feel I have learned a lot from this site since joining, there are so any more symptoms than I knew about!! Thank you
Title: Re: Menopause depression
Post by: lubylou on February 16, 2014, 10:11:32 PM
Hi
 Like CLKD says give the anti depressant a while and see how you are emotionally after that.

You are of an age where HRT should not be a problem for a GP to prescribe. Without HRT I have prolonged hot night flushes, I am glad that yours are not troubling you. Read as much as you can and be an informed patient, knowledge about what is happening to your body will help you work out what you need.

You will find out what works for you but don't be afraid of standing you ground and asking your GP to try different options to help you through.
Lubylou
Title: Re: Menopause depression
Post by: Mrs January on February 16, 2014, 10:26:42 PM
Hi tearful

I started Citralopam last year whilst in crisis and crying etc ....but thought form the stress of my marriage breaking down.....I have 30mgs daily and also peri meno having Mirena and Oestrogen now too. Sometimes tearful but on the whole feeling much better.

Good luck hun and hugs Mrs J
Title: Re: Menopause depression
Post by: tearful1 on February 20, 2014, 04:48:54 PM
Thanks MrsJanuary & Lubylou
I am reading everything I can, have had a couple of good days but not so good today, it's my Birthday but I feel very down today, I was so determined to fight this without medication but, as you know, it's not easy!
Title: Re: Menopause depression
Post by: CLKD on February 20, 2014, 05:04:52 PM
Why fight when you can have help  :-\ - I lost years of my Life because I wouldn't take anti-depressant medication  :'(

Happy birthday!
Title: Re: Menopause depression
Post by: tearful1 on February 20, 2014, 05:06:01 PM
Thank you CLKD x
Title: Re: Menopause depression
Post by: CLKD on February 20, 2014, 05:07:02 PM
Have sent you a cake in the 'events' room  ;)
Title: Re: Menopause depression
Post by: tearful1 on February 20, 2014, 05:11:50 PM
Thanks, what is the events room? How do I find it?
Title: Re: Menopause depression
Post by: mamakaren on February 20, 2014, 05:17:36 PM
I've been on an anti-depressant as well as a hormone patch for 8 months & have had no sucess. Cant seem to find anything that works for me. But at this point I would try anything that might make me feel better! Good luck tearful, hope you feel better! And  :hbday:

Karen
Title: Re: Menopause depression
Post by: tearful1 on February 20, 2014, 05:19:17 PM
Thanks Karen, sorry to hear nothing is working for you, I hope you feel better soon & thanks for the b'day  message
Title: Re: Menopause depression
Post by: CLKD on February 20, 2014, 05:22:39 PM
Main menu - Birthdays and Events  ;)
Title: Re: Menopause depression
Post by: tearful1 on March 19, 2014, 08:38:29 PM
Hi ladies, it's been a while! I have just finished my 1st box of Menopace & happy to report a huge improvement in my symptoms especially the depression. I have taken on board all your advice & eating nuts & apples & drinking soya milk dally which also help mood control. I have read up on essential oils & stocked up on products containing them. I got Euphoria perfume from Lush which I wear on work days to give me a boost. Even the hot flushes are less  frequent now. Thanks for all of your messages when I was at my worst, much appreciated! A great book "50 things you can do to manage menopause" by Wendy Green has some good tips too!
Title: Re: Menopause depression
Post by: cherub0308 on March 19, 2014, 09:07:44 PM
Hi tearful

I wad prescribed anti d's for 5,years. I'm 46 now. I always thought my symptoms were hormonal. I decided to change drs and have been put  on hrt.  After being put on venlafaxine which is given to women who have had breast cancer.and  can't have hrt. My symptoms were  not improving.

My symptoms have eased. I am no where near,as emotional as I was. I was very low. I couldn't take any more. No longer nauseous either :and hot flushes are not half as bad :)


All the best.

Cherub 0308
Title: Re: Menopause depression
Post by: tearful1 on March 19, 2014, 09:11:51 PM
Hi cherub0308 good to hear your symptoms have eased too, different things work for different people. I'm pleased you have found something that works for you too
Title: Re: Menopause depression
Post by: cherub0308 on March 19, 2014, 09:34:57 PM
Hi tearful

Thank you. I have just read your last post. I think I may have been replying and hadn't realised you had j
I am so pleased for you too that things have improved. I was thinking  of trying menopace as I  only take star flower.

This forum is great how we can support and help each other.
 
Take care

Cherub0308