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Menopause Discussion => Other Health Discussion => Topic started by: Rowan on January 23, 2014, 10:50:07 AM

Title: Blood Group
Post by: Rowan on January 23, 2014, 10:50:07 AM
http://www.saga.co.uk/health/news/2012/august/blood-group-affects-heart-disease-risk-322.aspx

Interestingly women who are blood group 0 do well on HRT as their blood is thinner.

Its wise to know your blood group and carry a card with it on.
Title: Re: Blood Group
Post by: CLKD on January 23, 2014, 12:06:50 PM
I can't remember which blood Group I am .......... nor did I think that blood is different within those groups  ::)
Title: Re: Blood Group
Post by: Mrs January on January 23, 2014, 12:15:26 PM
Hi

Really I am O positive and have tried four different HRT's so far......lets hope they maybe right and I have it sorted .....

Mrs J
Title: Re: Blood Group
Post by: Rowan on January 23, 2014, 01:49:36 PM
Mrs J I may have phrased that wrongly what I should have said that women who are blood group O have less chance of getting blood clots on HRT. That's the theory, others might come along and dispute this.

http://www.acu-cell.com/btd.html
Title: Re: Blood Group
Post by: honeybun on January 23, 2014, 01:51:54 PM
Interesting SL. I can't remember what group I am. I must ask the next time I am at the doctors.

Hope I am O type.


Honeyb
x
Title: Re: Blood Group
Post by: Rowan on January 23, 2014, 02:32:23 PM
It is interesting HB and I can honestly say I fit my blood group O positive type.

Think I have posted about this before, after I had had my hysterectomy, a nurse came round and gave us each a injection each of a blood thinner(for blood clots) my wound was healing nicely but the next day it had gone very bruised and had started bleeding, when the surgeon came to have a look at it, I told her I was blood group O and she said to the nurse don't give her anymore injections.


For CLKD  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blood_type
Title: Re: Blood Group
Post by: Joyce on January 23, 2014, 03:24:12 PM
I'm O and was given blood thinners in hospital, I was badly bruised, but they still kept giving them.
Title: Re: Blood Group
Post by: Rowan on January 23, 2014, 03:31:12 PM
Here is some more info

http://healthland.time.com/2013/02/04/whats-in-a-blood-type-could-be-your-risk-of-developing-clots/
Title: Re: Blood Group
Post by: Rowan on January 23, 2014, 04:39:58 PM
Its said that blood O don't tolerate dairy and grains very well,that's certainly true for me, I do best on protein certain vegetables and fruits.

That was long before I knew anything about blood groups. I hated milk and never drunk it at school.
Title: Re: Blood Group
Post by: Joyce on January 23, 2014, 05:56:59 PM
Ok with grains. But dairy I cannot tolerate.
Title: Re: Blood Group
Post by: mamakaren on January 23, 2014, 06:10:19 PM
It's odd, I know I've been told my blood type many times. But for the life of me, I can't remember! :oops: I guess it's something I need to find out! I definately find the info interesting!

Thanks ladies!

Karen
Title: Re: Blood Group
Post by: Dana on January 25, 2014, 06:22:24 AM
Interesting. I'm A pos. 5% increase, which is better than AB or B.
Title: Re: Blood Group
Post by: Cassie on January 25, 2014, 06:43:21 AM
Im also A+ 5% risk yikes!!! :o
Title: Re: Blood Group
Post by: Maryjane on January 25, 2014, 08:31:48 AM
I am A resus ( sp ) negative. Had to have injections during and after each pregnancy to prevent having a blue baby.  I used to have to carry a card around with me, don't know if I still should. :-\
 
Title: Re: Blood Group
Post by: Sarah2 on January 25, 2014, 11:56:45 AM
I'm a bit sceptical of that one piece of research. What needs remembering is that the Saga piece is written by an ( unqualified) journalist who is simply reporting a summary of something she has read and you aren't getting a lot of detail.
The actual absolute risk to an individual is not stated, but just the relative risk for each blood group.It seems very simplistic to say that X blood group = more heart attacks or clots. If this was the case then that data would have been available for years surely?

Title: Re: Blood Group
Post by: janm on January 28, 2014, 10:08:58 AM
So good news!?
stop thinking about whether topical hrt increases cancer risk or decreases cancer risk
And focus on the fact that being blood group AB positive I'm now more likely to get a heart attack!

 ;) ;D
Title: Re: Blood Group
Post by: oldsheep on January 28, 2014, 11:44:06 AM
Hello from another AB+ meno sheep. Looks like we're doomed  ;D
Title: Re: Blood Group
Post by: meno lesley on January 28, 2014, 12:10:35 PM
I already feel like I am falling to bits and am also ab positive so something elsr to add to the list.

Lesley x
Title: Re: Blood Group
Post by: Hurdity on January 28, 2014, 04:17:29 PM
Don't worry girls for goodness sake!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I read this a while back - but can't remember the details.One was cranky (the middle one). Just follow the advice from I think the top link (or the bottom) which is sensible for anyone re diet, lifestyle and exercise. All this correlations and risk factors are to be taken with a pinch of salt (not too much salt, mind...) - especially such a minor effect.

And please note the standard statistical conclusion everyone needs to remember:

Correlation does not equal causation.... drummed into me at university and never forgotten...

You can correlate anything with anything but it doesn't help you find out the cause or even point to the cause - and especially with something like this. Yes there are some physiological differences between different blood groups otheriwse we wouldn't know about them - but if AB was danegrous - none of you would be here - natural selection would have seen to that long ago.

Hey Maryjane snap - I'm A negative too - and had to have injections with my children too!

Hurdity x
Title: Re: Blood Group
Post by: oldsheep on January 28, 2014, 05:10:43 PM
Don't worry girls for goodness sake!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

And please note the standard statistical conclusion everyone needs to remember:

Correlation does not equal causation.... drummed into me at university and never forgotten...

You can correlate anything with anything but it doesn't help you find out the cause or even point to the cause - and especially with something like this.


thanks Hurdity! Yup  ;D  I'm at high risk for heart disease and osteoporosis. So I try to keep my good cholesterol high, take vit D supplements (I've been put on 2000iu a day minimum) and get regular moderate exercise.
My one mega failing is the inability to avoid chocolate but so be it. I'd eat less of it if the weather was sunnier. Didn't eat any this summer.
I tend to avoid worrying about Daily Mail health scares etc. The papers have a 'health' slot to fill and nothing gets readers more than the "it'll kill ya" stories. The only thing I totally believe is don't smoke and don't drink too much; the rest seems guesswork.
Title: Re: Blood Group
Post by: Cassie on January 28, 2014, 05:14:56 PM
As my friend says, who wont give up smoking, you gotta die from something....:) nothing like enjoying life to the full and being philosophical:) I have another friend who has lived all her life on organic fruits, meats, veggies, never smoked, nor touched alcohol, has exercised regularly, been in perfect shape and health and has just been diagnosed with advanced cancer....just shows one, hey.... happy evening all :)
Title: Re: Blood Group
Post by: Rowan on January 28, 2014, 06:05:43 PM
Everyone is entitled to their own views and opinions though I didn't think that posting about blood groups would promote some of the responses but then perhaps I shouldn't have been.

I for one would not dismiss this research and "Paper" anything that gives more understanding to heart disease and stroke is to be welcomed.

If anyone is still sceptical they should  google and do there own research.
Title: Re: Blood Group
Post by: Rowan on January 28, 2014, 06:22:54 PM
I'm a bit sceptical of that one piece of research. What needs remembering is that the Saga piece is written by an ( unqualified) journalist who is simply reporting a summary of something she has read and you aren't getting a lot of detail.
The actual absolute risk to an individual is not stated, but just the relative risk for each blood group.It seems very simplistic to say that X blood group = more heart attacks or clots. If this was the case then that data would have been available for years surely?"


People with type AB blood may have a higher risk of heart disease compared with those whose blood type is O, according to a new study.

Researchers reviewed two studies that tracked nearly 90,000 people for more than 20 years and found that coronary heart disease risk varied with participants' blood types. People with type O blood had the lowest incidence of coronary heart disease, and compared with them, those with type AB blood were 23 percent more likely to have heart disease, while those with type B blood were 11 percent more likely, and people with type A were 5 percent more likely.

“While people cannot change their blood type, our findings may help physicians better understand who is at risk for developing heart disease,” said study author Dr. Lu Qi, assistant professor of nutrition at the Harvard School of Public Health in Boston.


The researchers considered two Harvard studies, one that tracked 62,000 women over 26 years, and one that tracked 27,400 men over 24 years. In total, more than 2,500 people were diagnosed with heart disease.

The association with blood type held even after the researchers took into account variables that affect people's risk of heart disease, such as cholesterol levels, diabetes and hypertension.

The results are "totally surprising," said Dr. Richard Stein, a cardiologist and spokesperson for the American Heart Association. While other smaller studies have suggested such a correlation, this is the first large-scale study to support the connection, he noted.

Stein said that while further research is needed, blood type could be added to the list of factors that are considered when a doctor assesses a patient for risk of heart disease, particularly because blood tests to determine it are inexpensive and have no side effects.

In order to reduce heart disease risk, people should exercise, eat right and keep their weight and cholesterol in check, Stein said.

Knowing that one's blood type puts them at higher risk may increase people's motivation to "take care of themselves and stop their bad habits," Qi said.

The researchers found a correlation between blood type and heart disease risk, not a cause-and-effect link. Other research has suggested mechanisms that may explain the link, such as a link between type A blood and one type of cholesterol, and a link between type AB blood and heightened inflammation.

But these links were found in very small studies, Stein said, so explaining the correlation requires further research, he said.

In the United States, 45 percent of people have type O blood, making it the most common blood type. Only 4 percent of the U.S. population has type AB blood, while about 40 percent has type A and about 11 percent has type B.

The paper is published today (Aug. 14) in the journal Arteriosclerosis, Thrombosis and Vascular Biology.