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General Discussion => Birthdays and Events => Topic started by: CLKD on December 30, 2013, 01:22:01 PM
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fights for Life following a ski-ing accident yesterday. If he does survive his, nor his families life will be the same ..... all the money in the World can't make the brain heal after such an injury.
It's true too that rugby players should take time out after head collisions, even heading a football can be damaging to the internal structures ........
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They say it make take days to know how badly his injuries will affect him. Doesn't sound good though. He's getting the best treatment possible, so here's hoping.
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Head injuries take months to heal. If certain injuries haven't healed within 2 years then improvement is not expected from that point. Certain types of head injury cause certain types of behaviour, i.e. frontal lobe can cause inhibitions to disappear which makes social situations different to say the least :-X
Late onset epilepsy is common too, as is marital breakdown, about 85% don't last the distance. How awful for his son to witness this!
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I think at the moment they are just hoping that the swelling will go down and allow the brain to begin to return to normal. It is good that he is in an artificial coma rather than an injury caused one.
Hopefully he will be ok.
Taz x
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He is an adrenalin junkie who was skiing off piste with his son. They don't know if he had a guide with him or not.
Hubby and son hated him as a driver but like the rest of us are hoping he will make a full recovery.
Honeyb
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The reports vary. Yesterday he was in a coma in the helicopter, today it is medically induced which is to be expected. The news keep saying that he is 'fighting for his Life' but in fact he is in a cooled, induced coma so his body can relax and the brain work less. It is dreadful for anyone to have to go through. There are few head injury units in the UK and Headway Charity are kept busy with support etc..
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I didn't like him much either, quite arrogant, but wouldn't wish this on anyone.
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Arrogance is part of his cultural background. Noteably his brother didn't have the same attitude ………
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Arrogance ok, but he was a cheat and I don't like cheats.
Honeyb
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Certainly that 'win' in the Pit area was suspect but within the Rules ……….. apparently.
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He was also very good at driving other drivers off the track. He was universally hated for his underhand driving style.
Honeyb
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He's not been the only one. Still no excuse for bending the rules.
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Hated by whom? if drivers really hated it all then they would have been more vocal or even changed Formula. I do wonder how much the Rules were altered in order to accommodate his actions …………. :-X
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Drivers have disliked one another for some time now. For instance Vettel & Webber. They are professionals & get on with their jobs.
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there was good reason there ;) and Mark :-* has now made his feelings known by going to another Formulae ......
Another operation over night ........
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There were others in years gone by, but we're digressing.
Slight improvement in scans today, but still long way to go.
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They said today on the news he may never wake up hes only 44 so sad and he had a helmet
The Specialist on who didnt know Shumak said sometimes even with helemets makes no odds xx
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I haven't heard any updates. Kept in an induced coma could take months, the Specialists usually do a gradual 'wake' to see how much response there might be. Certain areas of the brain when injured heal within a 'certain' time scale ...... there is the risk of epilpesy too ........
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Today's news http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/motorsport/formulaone/michael-schumacher/10575877/Michael-Schumacher-will-have-to-adjust-to-being-a-very-different-person-brain-injury-specialist-warns.html
Taz x
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Richard knows what he's talking about ;) but as usual, there is no mention of when this Study was Published, I've known these details for over 15 years.
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I only posted it as you said you hadn't read anything on it lately...
I would think that as it says "the launch of a study" then it is recent. Which details?
Taz x
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Think that was probably know from the beginning.
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Only time will tell.
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"Dr Richard Greenwood says at launch of study into traumatic head injuries ........
"The study, published in the Journal of the American Medical Association Psychiatry, tested 220,000 people .......... "
It doesn't necessarily mean that this is a new study ::) and the quote doesn't include any dates, calls for papers, abstracts ....
I don't see any up to date news unless I read the BBC web-site, because we don't buy daily papers
Went off to do a google and found that the study 'was published on Wed.' in journal JAMA Psychiatry but it doesn't state which Wednesday ??? and I sourced this via the Times in India ???
Also, unless Richard has examined Michael or spoken closely to his Consultants and seen recent scans, he is only able to generalise and give opinions based on his experience ........only time will tell if there is anywhere near a 'good' improvement. James Cracknell is the other recent brain injury sports person and he is open about his problems now and those he has been told to expect.
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You can find it on JAMA's own site. It as published on the 15th January 2014 http://archpsyc.jamanetwork.com/article.aspx?articleid=1812719
Taz x
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:thankyou: will look later. Couldn't find it when I searched just now ::)
Sad for anyone who has this to contend with, 85% of marriages break up. The person is different from the one married :'(. It is a long road to any recovery at all. Sometimes it would be better if there hasn't been immediate rescue at the site of the accident <sigh>
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Do you mean it might have been better if he had died? Although it may be very sad for those who knew him as he was before that doesn't mean that he wont go on to live a useful and enjoyable "new" life.
Taz
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When you know as much about head injury as I found out :'( .......... many do not go on to live any kind of life at all ........
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Only the French doctors know. They are specialists in this type of injury & I feel it's wrong to speculate the outcome in this case.
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Me too. Sorry CLKD I didn't know you had experience of head injury.
Taz x
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Not a problem, why would you know ……….. there are certain patterns that head injury usually follows dependant on where the brain is damaged ……….. there are few centres that do after care in the UK so it is difficult to get on-going support which is where Headway helps
For example: I know a man who was a top accountant in a very big firm handling large amounts of money: after his accident (closed head injury) he can't even recognise figures, so adding up etc. is now out of his ken. It makes him very depressed as he is unable to do a paid job as he can't remember where he has to be, even though he uses a daybyday jotting pad to put things down. He was 49 when the accident occurred which had a big effect on his Pension too. Fortunately his personality wasn't affected but he doesn't have much fun or humour in his Life now.
Another man had a stroke, his wife eventually divorced him because his temper was uncontrollable and he wasn't the person she had married.
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On a much more positive note. Richard Hammond had a terrible head injury and went on to beat all the odds and come back to being the same.
There is hope so let's not write him off. For every terrible story there is one of recovery back to normal.
Honeyb
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That's the thing, Richard Hammond still drives, not at all in the same league as Schumacher. But he couldn't do a lot for a long time after his accident.
He couldn't recognise his wife. Said he was waiting for his wife to come come over from France, whilst speaking to his real life wife while she was sat at his bedside. That must have been so hard for her. The main thing is he recovered.
Head Injuries are not predictable.
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The longer he is in a coma the less his chances are, it must awful for his family.
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Nobody really knows how he's doing as his family have asked for complete privacy as the reporters were camping out at the hospital. You can understand their reasons.
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Induced coma is different though. Why they asked for the reporters to move I can't understand, after all he wouldn't be where he was as a top racing driver without publicity! He did keep his family under wraps though but the World wants to know of any progress etc..
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I read that even an induced coma longer then two weeks reduces chances. The effects of the aneasthetic on the brain and the rest of the body is not good. This was from a London neural surgeon.
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Apparently out of the coma. Has been moved from the Hospital into a rehabilitation hospital. Wonder if he is responding to stimulus only or whether he is much improved? 'out of a coma' can mean so much and tells watchers very little.
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Only time will tell. Certain brain injuries follow certain patterns with regards healing. Michael is supposedly at home …...