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Title: Long haul flights - how do you cope?
Post by: Joyce on September 19, 2013, 09:11:17 AM
My hubby is planning to retire next year. We were discussing it the other night, though wish he would have discussed earlier in the day & not at 10 o'clock at night when my befuddled brain couldn't cope. Anyway in the midst of discussion I said Well no more big holidays, I can't cope with any more long haul flights He looked so disappointed! I would truly love to see more places in the world. Maybe it was because we did Florida in 2011 & Bahamas in 2012. I'm not too bad going, but it's the coming back which kills me. I even looked up some places and they appear to be changing to the Dreamliner planes, which didn't help! I think he would love to have at least one more big holiday, whilst still young enough to enjoy it.

How do you cope?  Last two times I was a wreck coming home, full of angst etc. If I could have got off mid-atlantic, I would have. It will be a big birthday for hubby next year and if he wants to go somewhere fancy I'd love to be OK with it. Have to say I've been dropping hints that we should stay at home & celebrate somewhere nice with family.
Title: Re: Long haul flights - how do you cope?
Post by: honeybun on September 19, 2013, 09:27:12 AM
I am the wrong one to ask as I know I just could not cope.  Perhaps you could compromise and do a tour of Europe instead of a long haul flight. Hubby might be happy with that and you would maybe cope better.


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Title: Re: Long haul flights - how do you cope?
Post by: Joyce on September 19, 2013, 10:17:50 AM
Think only way I could cope is if we went 1st class with a bed!  ;D We upgraded to premium economy last year, but made no difference. Lottery win would help.  ;)
Title: Re: Long haul flights - how do you cope?
Post by: Limpy on September 19, 2013, 11:08:27 AM
Business Class might be worth considering, not as dear as first but so much better than economy.

We had about 10 years of travelling to New Zealand and back.
Business class made a massive difference, well worth the money.
Lots of little things; easier checkin, less of a queue for security checking, quiet lounges with food and drink, priority boarding, better food on plane

Makes a big difference
Title: Re: Long haul flights - how do you cope?
Post by: ann123 on September 19, 2013, 11:40:58 AM
I really struggled last year coming back from Aus.
Only thing I can suggest is stop overs. Or how about cruising?
Title: Re: Long haul flights - how do you cope?
Post by: Clovie on September 19, 2013, 12:44:06 PM
Cubagirl, we do Florida a lot, we go most years.
I love flying. What is it about coming back, the journey back you don't like?
is it because you don't or can't sleep?

Have you tried taking anything to help you nod off, even if its for a short while?
I don't sleep well coming back as its not very comfy is it, but I used melatonin this year and fell asleep about 15 minutes into 'Wreck It Ralph' movie - seems I didn't miss a lot  ;D ;D

If you KNOW you're not going to sleep why not plan around it and load up some movies to watch, or check out beforehand which movies are going to be showing on the plane and plan your night, get some treats to eat get as comfy as you can with pillows etc and who knows, you might just nod off as you're not actively trying to?

I can't wait to go back to Florida this coming Feb!! I lurrvvee Florida. Did you go to Orlando? Or were you elsewhere?  :)

Title: Re: Long haul flights - how do you cope?
Post by: Joyce on September 19, 2013, 01:22:38 PM
I just get so uncomfortable & agitated. I'm like a baby who needs to sleep, but won't give in. An odd description, but that's how it feels.  Used Rescue Remedy last year, no use at all.  Tried movies, music but they just irritate me even more. I'm the same at home. For some reason just can't nod off. Grrrr

Orlando x 3  Clovie. 1996 & 1998 when our kids were old enough to appreciate it. Then again in 2011. Some late money from my mum's estate took DD, her partner, their daughter, DS, his partner, hubby & I to Disney All Stars. I could have saved the money, but decided my mum would have wanted us to have the time of our lives. Made up a diary for granddaughter with pictures of characters so she could get autographs and add photos later.  Doubt we'll be back, but pretty sure DD & DS will go again one day.
Title: Re: Long haul flights - how do you cope?
Post by: Clovie on September 19, 2013, 01:29:36 PM
ahhh, I see your issues then, I know what you mean about music being annoying if you're not in the mood for it... I just wish teleporters would be invented.

On the other matter, its nice to say "hi!" to another Orlando fan!!!  :)
Our youngest boy is still 11, so we have excuses to go back  ;), not that you need an excuse as Disney, as you'll know, has things for all ages!  Walt designed it to be for everyone eh?  :) 
Title: Re: Long haul flights - how do you cope?
Post by: Joyce on September 19, 2013, 01:32:21 PM
Amazing! Best ride for me was in Hogwarts castle. Though doubt son & his partner would agree. They like the big roller coasters at Universal. I hate roller coasters!
Title: Re: Long haul flights - how do you cope?
Post by: Clovie on September 19, 2013, 01:39:24 PM
Amazing! Best ride for me was in Hogwarts castle. Though doubt son & his partner would agree. They like the big roller coasters at Universal. I hate roller coasters!

Oooh I loved that - but I came off as sick as a dog  ;D ;D, Made me laugh how in front of the casdtle near the ride exit all the benches were full of people sat silent with green faces!!!  ;D ;D ;D

And I LOVE the big coasters!!!
but was strangely terrified - and I mean TERRIFIED of tower Of terror, have done the chicken exit on that ride a couple of times in the past ( I know exactly where it is, and where it comes out!  ;D)
Title: Re: Long haul flights - how do you cope?
Post by: Pennyfarthing on September 19, 2013, 03:46:31 PM
I don't even try.  I know that I can cope with flights up to about 4 hours.  Beyond that I would not be a happy bunny. 
Title: Re: Long haul flights - how do you cope?
Post by: littleminnie on September 19, 2013, 09:18:16 PM
Business Class is the answer CG, your seat can go into a bed. A couple glasses of free wine, a meal then sleep. It's always quicker coming back too.
Title: Re: Long haul flights - how do you cope?
Post by: Rose on September 20, 2013, 01:20:49 AM
Hi Cg, living in Oz and still having two kids in Ireland plus grandchildren  :( I just have to grin and bear long haul flights or else. I wear flight socks (a must) then take a sleeping tablet after they give you your meal or they will wake you up to give it to you  :( then I put in ear plugs, and put on eye mask and if I'm lucky I get at least 7 hrs sleep. The flight from here to Singapore is 7 hrs and then the one to London is 14! so I usually try to sleep on the longer one. One of those neck pillows is great too. Wear really comfy clothes. I occupy myself with some of the movies that are foreign and usually better than the normal fare. I hate flying and wish I could afford the seats with beds but as it's so expensive already, there is no fear of that.
Title: Re: Long haul flights - how do you cope?
Post by: Joyce on September 20, 2013, 08:15:40 AM
Such a long journey. My brother & SIL know how that one feels. I thought sleeping tablets were a big no-no though. 

Business class, oh how I wish. My son's GF has got sleeping down to a fine art. She can sleep literally anywhere. She slept practically whole way to/from Florida.
Title: Re: Long haul flights - how do you cope?
Post by: Ju Ju on September 20, 2013, 10:30:04 AM
Look at www.stopjetlag.com. Requires effort, but it works.

After my husband retired, very stressed, and after my sister died aged 50, we travelled to NZ and OZ for 6 months, most of the time camping. IBS and camping do not go together very well, but most of the time I coped. Worth it though as I saw the stress falling away from my husband. Would never go away for so long and would now do it in more luxury. We came back with a better appreciation of what we have here, family, friends, countryside and history.
Title: Re: Long haul flights - how do you cope?
Post by: Rose on September 20, 2013, 10:08:54 PM
Hi Cubagirl you can get mild sleeping tablets in Boots and I know loads of people who have taken them for such a long journey. no alcohol of course (it just makes you feel awful anyway) and no make-up as you need to keep your skin moisturized. I always put my make-up on in Heathrow before my flight to Ireland.
Title: Re: Long haul flights - how do you cope?
Post by: CLKD on September 22, 2013, 06:14:46 PM
How about lots of long-weekends away if you can't face long haul?  'Do' European Cities?  Or book in the UK - we have some FAB U LUS places here.  We bought a camper recently and I've had anxiety about that  :'( ::) ........ and would never consider flying - although I do want to see the Italian Lakes it's not a great enough 'want' to risk or have to endure anxiety.
Title: Re: Long haul flights - how do you cope?
Post by: Joyce on September 22, 2013, 07:39:23 PM
Europe I would like. Hubby has a list of places he won't go, many in Europe. I did get him interested in Austria though, in the summer though. Time will tell.
Title: Re: Long haul flights - how do you cope?
Post by: CLKD on September 23, 2013, 12:57:05 PM
Looks like stalemate then ?  Does he crave hot, hot, hot if he won't go to Europe? 

Would you holiday alone?
Title: Re: Long haul flights - how do you cope?
Post by: bramble on September 23, 2013, 01:04:57 PM
A cruise seems to be the only sensible option?
Bramble
Title: Re: Long haul flights - how do you cope?
Post by: bramble on September 23, 2013, 01:08:59 PM
Or have you considered separate holidays. There are loads of holiday companies now who can cater for single folk. If hubby wants to go watch the gorillas in Borneo (or whatever) then there is at least one company to cater for his needs. Might be worthwhile for your husband to work out what he wants to do or see, then have a look on the net for companies that suit. Loads of people go on holiday alone now, not only those who are unattached.

Bramble
Title: Re: Long haul flights - how do you cope?
Post by: Joyce on September 23, 2013, 03:20:40 PM
Cruising is a no-no for both of us.

Separate holidays also a no-no. A stalemate for now.  Knew someone who did this every year, she's now divorced!
Title: Re: Long haul flights - how do you cope?
Post by: CLKD on September 23, 2013, 03:38:12 PM
DH has usually choosen the destination; I have always booked the accommodation; he does the driving, I do the packing ....... we have never holidayed alone.  Can't see the point  ::) - he would need to return home every night to cook my meals  ;D
Title: Re: Long haul flights - how do you cope?
Post by: Taz2 on September 23, 2013, 09:09:57 PM
Now now CLKD - you managed to feed yourself when he went to France...

It depends on how well you like your own company and how confident you are as to whether separate holidays work. I love my separate time - always in this country though - and just relish being able to do what I want when I want and not have to take anyone else into account. The only difficult part is eating alone which can make you feel a bit self conscious. It sounds a bit selfish but I think I've done enough pandering to everyone else over almost forty years of marriage and motherhood - as much as I've enjoyed it.

Taz  ;D
Title: Re: Long haul flights - how do you cope?
Post by: honeybun on September 23, 2013, 09:54:11 PM
Have to say I would probably spend most of my time looking round to see where my OH was.
I like my own company but not that much.


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Title: Re: Long haul flights - how do you cope?
Post by: Joyce on September 23, 2013, 09:59:46 PM
A day to myself, I could cope with.  Mind you going on my own DD's beginning of November, hubby tied up with work. When I did same journey last year I had the most awful journey home. Stuck at Haymarket in Edinburgh for ages as trains were delayed due to flooding down south. Ended up jumping on train to Dundee & hoping for the best. Fingers crossed this time round.
Title: Re: Long haul flights - how do you cope?
Post by: CLKD on September 24, 2013, 07:07:00 AM
He cooked food before he went to France Taz  ;) - then I was too anxious to eat anyway  ::)

When DH goes fishing in Wales I can watch through binoculars.  When he catches something worth showing he phones me on his mobile, I look through the glasses and he holds up the fish  :-*  ............  ::)
Title: Re: Long haul flights - how do you cope?
Post by: Suzi Q on September 24, 2013, 12:03:27 PM
Im in Ozz I have no choice
30 mins to airport 2 hour wait then on to plane 30mins wait t take off
8hrs to Singapore 3/5 hour wait depending on connceting flighs 14hrs to Manchester 2hours customs and out and home to Wallasey thats 30 hours or so but no choice
Hate it with a vengence especially as I HATE FLYING scared to death entire time but I do it
Doing it again next August 2 weeks on my own in Wallasey Bobbles comes over for 2 weeks in UK
We are having a big my family 40th wed ann party his family in UK are all dead now mines huge
Then a week in an appartment on the Left Bank in Paris 4 nights in Venice 4 nights in Rome
Then a week in Bali we havent had a holiday since Sept 2010 when we went home odd weekends other than 4 nights last Xmas in motels riding  motor bike nothing OUR holidaysHOME
But its hard at the moment it isnt good in Ozz at the moment to keep the company going
We and everyone else in the office etc have taken a 20% pay cut a month till ??? when ever
That way the men in the factory dont get laid off thankfully we have paid the mort off
BUT I dont work and 20% a big drop still others are far worse so we may have to rethink Trip
Maybe only UK and Paris NOT giving that up but I hate the journey but its worth it 10 fold
Title: Re: Long haul flights - how do you cope?
Post by: Joyce on September 24, 2013, 12:23:01 PM
If I had close family on other side of the world, like my brother, I would have to bite the bullet.  Think they have struggled each time they've headed out to Oz. Jet lagged on way there and spend days catching up on sleep when they ge back to the UK again.  Very tiring.