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Menopause Discussion => All things menopause => Topic started by: Gypsy on September 18, 2013, 05:48:16 PM
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As a newcomer to the world of muddled monthlies and hot flushes, I'm astonished at how little this so-womanly function is hidden away in our society. I'm astonished that I didn't know about all the symptoms. Hot flushes and a few erratic periods and being a bit ratty was the extent of my knowledge. All women go through it for heaven's sake - so why oh why is it still only whispered about?
I feel like I've just entered a private club - when I suddenly rip off a layer in company - other women friends of a certain age look at me knowingly. 'You too?' A friend recently whispered.
When I openly said 'yup, I'm getting hot flushes' the rest of the company looked embarrassed. You'd think I'd just said 'yup, I'm incontinent.'
It makes me frustrated that I'm expected to pretend nothing is happening to me and I've been expressing that frustration by telling my friends - in front of their husbands and partners that - yeah! Actually I have started my menopause and I'm blowed if I'm going to apologise for it!
Thank goodness for this forum - and please forgive me for letting off steam. ;)
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Oh if only our mother's had told us. All my mum told me was possible hot flushes, heavy periods and that was about it. No HRT in her day. She suffered in many ways though, but it wasn't discussed.
TBH I've tried to be open with my DD to get I don't need to know that! Oh yes she does. When her time comes I will be sympathetic. Maybe her generation will be more informed.
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I am the same. I have mentioned it in all female company twice and they were all older then me and was met by a stoney silence. I felt a real pratt. Never again.
My daughter has been really sympathetic. She is only 18 but keeps telling me that there are lots of women on my forum the same as me. I really don't tell her much as she is too young to be burdened with my problems.
I does make you feel as if you are very alone when other women won't talk of it.
Their problem. Not mine.
Honeyb
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this is very true , yet every single ,women has . to , deal with it , at some point ;)you would think , us ladies , would stick , together :)
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I think ladies don't discuss/admit it in open because a) it's admitting to the ageing process, even though I read that it's actually starting earlier and earlier and b) you probably don't want to compromise your job. As we all know it affects everyone differently from those who sail through it to those who go through hell. If you're in hell we all know it's easy to make mistakes because of lack of sleep, the anxiety, brain fog, forgetting things and how sympathetic are employers to this? Therefore we shut up and carry on and keep our fingers crossed.
I've started chatting to close friends about it, one then went off to her docs to get some HRT and is feeling much better so that helped!
It is the last taboo, it's probably easier to come out rather than say you're meno! We still live in a society where womens stuff is still swept under the carpet.
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It's the old 'suffer in silence' brigade. Unfortunately for some, I don't like suffering or silence so that's why this site is so good! My mother (86) refers to 'down there' when she is talking about bladder problems. I also remember when I was in the midst of labour pains, to 'be quiet' so as not to upset the other women! I mentioned this to my daughter who said that she was also told off for moaning when in labour and that was only 2 years ago. Why women believe they have to hide this very disturbing part of life is beyond me. It's so much easier to be able to talk to someone in the same boat as you, don't you think?
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I was just thinking this tonight that it is still not something other women talk about. Perhaps its a bit like depression, people still feel it's a stigma and others wont understand and this is still true. There are some who are open about menopause and many who will not talk about it even to other women and then there are those who say they have not been troubled by it, if true then they are the very lucky ones. It is a good job we have forums like this otherwise many women would honestly not know what had hit them or have any support.
Meg
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no its the last taboo people dont want to talk about it except maybe family
Even good freinds get a bit ewww so you shut up say nothing
Hubbies fab but even he hates my atrophy cos even with Vagifem I have blips like NOW
2 weeks and maybe 6 days 100% OK I shaved down there which always irritates it
But even so its not good and even the thought of sex scares me though of xccourse its nothng like it was 3yrs ago
Buut untill this blip 2/3 weeks ago Ive been fine for months?
Thios is why this site is so important here we can say how we feel and even if theres kowne there while your typing you know someone will answer xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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Gosh you are so right Suzi Q, not many people want to hear about it but they'll drone on and on about other things. Sorry your atrophy is playing up, Suzi as you've been an inspiration. If you can do it there's hope for me somewhere. Trying to get my body used to oestrogen cream as I was told to(not making any difference) and coupled with the other pain I just want to sit in the corner and cry, well itch and cry really. You ladies have given me hope and I hope that this blip goes away soon. I just want rid of this pain/itch/foul mood swings so I will keep going until I can use the full dosage of oestrogen. Do you think that it was shaving that caused this blip, Suzi? I will have to give that up too and even here in Oz I shall not worry about my bikini line even in temps of 38 +. I don't think anyone will notice to be honest ???
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Shaking my head here :) I am happy to talk about the meno but so many women just sort of tut tut, oh well, I never had ANY bother with that, it's natural, oh no I'M not taking anything blah blah. What a fuss!! Well, I'm sorry but some of us appear to have it harder than others and I don't see why we should apologise for that and suffer in silence. The latter often appears to go in hand with "having a nip to calm down" - work in a shop and you can smell those who are coping in that way as soon as they come in. I'm not condemning - no one is perfect - but isn't it better to get it all out in the open and get it sorted properly? :-X It shouldn't be a taboo or shameful. Grrrr! :-\ Rant over. This forum is great and has been so much help to me. Thanks everyone. Let's stand together and be PROUD eh??
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If I even mention it to ladies around my age (50) they ALL, and I mean ALL shake their head and look flabberghasted, say they are having no problems at all, no trouble, "it hasn't started in me yet" - then they look at me with pitying eyes as if I have an imminent death sentence. :(
I used to get a bit upset about it until I found this forum.
Later it has been let slip in a few people I know that they were just not admitting it.
Why deny it?
It comes to us all.
No, I don't like it - I AM struggling with it because it DOES mean I am getting older (but then EVERYONE is getting older, even young 20-something girls)
I didn't tell my husband for ages in case he viewed me with those same pitying eyes and I couldn't bear that. :'(
and yes, I am having a bad-ish day in case it doesn't come across enough in my post ;D
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Oh dear, we all feel like that sometimes Clovie. In this day & age with folk being more open & discussing goodness knows what, why oh why is the menopause like a bad word? This forum is great for that. Can you imagine if all of us got in a room together? It would be non-stop chatter. ;D
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yeah it would be non stop chatter! and I'm sure we'd all have a giggle about it too!! ;D
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I thank god for this forum and others so that we meno ladies have somewhere to go and can vent all we like. :D I have learnt so much since being a member on here. I always found it difficult to tell anyone that I was going through the menopause including my husband, I have to admit I found it embarrassing which sounds ridiculous, but that's how I felt. Now I am more open to my family I feel I can tell them some of how I feel which is all thanks to this forum. :)
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Ive no idea
All i know is if it was affecting another bidy part, say your arm hurt, instead of your giblets, nomone would have a problem with it.
I dont care anymore...we are all ade of the same bits of lego at the end of the day whether we care to admit it or not!:)
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Well Gypsy im glad i came back on the forum , as we have all said, why isnt this talked about more . To be honest i dont think we should be shy of saying whats wrong with us to a lady friend or a man, it is 2013 for gods sake ! There are still women friends that who dont like to talk about it, or luckily they havent suffered, but there is a lot of us that do, so this is where the forum comes in. I saw the other day on here , someone said enjoy the menopause :-\ well im trying my best ....yeah!!! ::)
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Enjoy huh ::) Not the term I would use. Get through would be more appropriate. Bet better than not having one at all - i.e. dropping off the perch before you are old enough :)
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Enjoy ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Thank you for all your replies. I'm still trying to understand and figure out how to deal with this new experience and I'm very glad I found this forum! I still intend to be open about it because I'm not ashamed of my age or the fact that I'm a woman. If the people around me don't like it - well my friends are pretty used to me being up front on most subjects. :)
How do you do all those other smileys?
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If you click on more under the row of smilies you get more to choose from..
Whoever said enjoy the menopause. Someone hold them and I will. :beat:
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Honeyb
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Hi Ladies! I certainly agree about it being a taboo subject. My friends clam up when I mention it and my GP keeps fobbing me off as too young. Im 46 and have felt perimeno for AT LEAST 5 years. My periods have virtually ebbed off although I was never heavy anyway. I now only get the phantom period/pain nothing a panty liner won' t sort out once every 3/4 months.
My mum's periods stopped outright when she was 41. My Mum was brought up by nuns in the 1930's in Ireland and isn't one to discuss many things let alone menopause. My Mum didn't even prepare me for starting my periods but luckily I had older sister to nick stuff from.
Thanks to this website I went to GP and asked for hrt in the form of patch (Femseven Sequi) as had done lots of reading on this Forum. However, apart from patches not sticking, I go mental on the 3rd & 4th week patch. I couldn't take the pill so guess i am progesterone intollerant.
Went back to GP and asked for Oestrogen only patch plus separate Progesterone (again, as per this forum). He admits he isnt sure about HRT & wants to refer me to gynae (good) but have had to come off everything for a month to get a true blood test. Feel like I'm on a roller-coaster, but not a good one. Why does everything have to take so long? Having blood test next week. Any advice would be welcome x
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Gosh you are so right Suzi Q, not many people want to hear about it but they'll drone on and on about other things. Sorry your atrophy is playing up, Suzi as you've been an inspiration. If you can do it there's hope for me somewhere. Trying to get my body used to oestrogen cream as I was told to(not making any difference) and coupled with the other pain I just want to sit in the corner and cry, well itch and cry really. You ladies have given me hope and I hope that this blip goes away soon. I just want rid of this pain/itch/foul mood swings so I will keep going until I can use the full dosage of oestrogen. Do you think that it was shaving that caused this blip, Suzi? I will have to give that up too and even here in Oz I shall not worry about my bikini line even in temps of 38 +. I don't think anyone will notice to be honest ???
No I had the blip 2 weeks ago last Monday out of the blue jut hit it does that I can check cos since I was 30 Ive kept diaries and read this years Ive had a few blip biy not this long nearl 3 weeks but as I said in that time about 6 days OK and sometimnes its just bad am and then goes OK or OK all day then evening eww Waters affecting it again had a shower and OUCH and no soap either So Im using my Nilsta around the poutside it does soothe it and YES I think the shaving which I do an almost BRAZILLIAN does irrittate Today it feels like a shaving rash sore and scrathy but my inner labias inside are red raw and the opening is red and sore
Yet put the normal vagi in last nioght and like BUTTER it slid in so OK insiude I thjink
Still got to go on cantg let it get to me got 7hr ride on MBike tomorrow and agan Sunday
Cant let Atrophy ruin my life it hurts throbs and like a suction feeling and sitting down EWWW
So chinm ujp xxx and hope ypou and me feel better asap xxxxxxxxxx
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Ooh suzi that souns painful, lots of padding for that bike ride. I do admire your resilience :-\
When meno hit me like a juggernaut i think spoke to just about everyone i could to try and get as much info as possible. Any family member and friend i came across got the lot in full detail. I was amazed that so few had experienced anything like what i was describing. My mother passed away 8 years ago so we never got around to talking about it, but neither of her sisters had any problems (i rang them for a chat) and none of my friends have suffered too badly either. They were quite surprised at the horrid symptoms i've had. However my mum in law and sis in law both had a very difficult time and were more than happy to talk about their experiences with me.
I dont blame women for not talking about it once its over, i cant wait to get this time of my life over and done with and forget about it. My daughter however has seen how its affected me so is well aware of how bad it can be. I actually didnt want to frighten her but found it impossible to hide things from her. She probably wont remember this though in 20 years time but at least i'll be able to help her if she does go through the same.
Delilah x
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Hope you enjoy the bike ride, Suzi! You are a braver woman than me ;) I get sore sitting doing work at the computer! let us know how it went!
Rose.
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I can totally relate to what you ladies are saying. Quite a few of my friends are older than me, and when I was going through the worst of my meno symptoms, and I would try to tell them or explain to them what it was like, all I got were blank stares and "I never went through any of that". Were they telling the truth or did they just not want to admit to the fact that they were older than me? Who knows.
I have a friend who is a bit younger than me and has started going though all the hot flushes, insomnia etc. I thought "Great, now's my chance to really help another woman" so I tried to start a discussion with her about what her options were, but I got shot down in flames. She just did not want to know. She could have taken advantage of the fact that I've been there, but she's chosen not to. All I can do is be there when/if she needs any information or support.
I think this "suffer in silence" crap is one of the reasons why there is still so much negativity attached to HRT. Women just don't want to know about it. Well more fool them as far as I'm concerned. I hope it will change with the next generation. Our generation was raised by mothers who were mostly very closed off to personal discussions like this, so in a way that has had a big influence on our attitudes too, but our daughters are more used to being open about things and demanding better opportunities. I hope they simply won't stand for being treated like second class citizens when it comes to hormones problems.
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Hi Dana
it's not just the other women that make this a taboo subject. I went to a male doctor plus gynaecologist and they never clicked that my symptoms were due in part to vaginal atrophy. I mean if the medical profession can't even get out of the woods with this subject what hope do we have? My daughters are just hoping that when it comes their time, it will go away with some magic potion. The way things are going, good luck to them!
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My mum talked to me about it a lot when I was around 16 so that I would understand what she was going through. I didn't understand at all. I thought she was making a big fuss and just didn't want to know. She was prescribed HRT as were quite a few of her friends and this worked well for a year before she had to come off. This was in 1970. I can remember feeling embarrassed as she walked around the house in her petticoat and wishing she would just get on with it and not make such a fuss. She used to say "You wait my girl - your time will come". Of course, in my mind, that would never happen I was ME and would stay like that for ever and not let a few little hot flushes change me at all!
I am the oldest person at work and some of the women are just starting to suffer hot flushes. They are just beginning to ask about HRT. A few years ago when I started it at age 53 there was no way they would ever take it and they were determined to go down the natural route.
I am not sure that women will ever really want to take on board the fact that so much of their body and personality will change as they become menopausal. We had a thread running a while back on positive aspects of the menopause and I'm afraid that I couldn't think of any. I liked the person I was. The woman with tons of energy and a fantastic and varied sex life. I liked the fact that I was good at my job, quick on my feet and quick to learn new things. I liked my figure and my hair and my skin and I don't like the fact now that so much effort has to go into just keeping myself looking attractive. I also liked the fact that I could cope in all situations. I know that we have to accept that things change with the reduction of hormones in the body but it is really difficult to do that and not wait for the "old" us to return. I remember working with a woman who was in her fifties and I was around twenty five and she used to grumble about her husband still wanting to make love when she preferred her knitting. We had quite a few chats about it because I thought she had always been like that but she explained how she used to be very sexual but since she got to her late forties she had "gone right off it" and didn't care if "he never came near me again". Again I was less than sympathetic and thought she was just being mean to her husband. I understand it all to well now of course!!
What I am trying to say is that I did know quite a lot about it but it was still never going to happen to me. I would suddenly wake up "older" at the age of around 90 with a blue rinse and sensible shoes!
Taz x
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I know that we have to accept that things change with the reduction of hormones in the body but it is really difficult to do that and not wait for the "old" us to return.
A few women on this forum have talked about 'coming out of the other side' and the 'old them' finally returning. Am I being optimistic when I say I'm living for when this happens to me? Would I need to abandon HRT and let the whole process of 'going through the menopause' take place in order for the 'old me' to return? What if that actually never happens and these women are just forgetting what the 'old them' was like? I tell you, nothing has taken over my world as much as the menopause - I don't go a day without thinking about how it's affecting me in one form or another - and this has lasted three years so far. Is the elusive 'light at the end of the tunnel' actually non-existent? :-\
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I haven't met anyone who has gone back to being the old them to be honest but they have felt much better as time goes on. HRT allows a lot of the old us to stay intact but as for "coming out of the other side" of menopause, in a completely scientific way, how can you do that i.e. the loss of hormones and go back to being what you were? The hormones don't come back so the actual menopause is something that is with us for the rest of our lives but the horrible mood swings and anxiety of peri meno do tend to lessen from what I have read. It's all about embracing the new us but, like you, I was rather fond of the old me! Which part of it is the most distressing for you Morwenna?
As for it taking over our lives my meno consultant said that although a forum such as this is brilliant we can become obsessed with the meno and let it colour all of what we are doing and saying. It is just part of life, as puberty was part of life, and we should, as much as possible, put it to the back of our minds and accept changes we can't alter while trying our best to get on with life. I probably haven't put that very well.
Taz x
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It would be nice to think that I could go back to the old me but realistically it is just not going to happen.
I have gone back on my HRT again because quality of life was going fast again. It really is prolonging the inevitable and that is sometimes hard to accept.
I did like the old me much better. But there is also the aging process involved too. None of us can stay the same.
It's a lonely journey I think, and a worrying one as at some point HRT will have to stop and there will be nothing to prop us up.
Gosh, doom and gloom or what.
Honeyb
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It's all about embracing the new us but, like you, I was rather fond of the old me! Which part of it is the most distressing for you Morwenna?
As for it taking over our lives my meno consultant said that although a forum such as this is brilliant we can become obsessed with the meno and let it colour all of what we are doing and saying. It is just part of life, as puberty was part of life, and we should, as much as possible, put it to the back of our minds and accept changes we can't alter while trying our best to get on with life. I probably haven't put that very well.
Taz x
I wouldn't say I'm distressed as such, more concerned at the way I'm having to keep my body going by using what feels to me to be 'artificial means'. Also, I can't put my finger on it but I just don't feel the same as I used to, that is physically and emotionally. I had no intention of using HRT before I started the menopause but lasted only a very short time before hot-footing it to the GP with a long list of horrible symptoms. While HRT has addressed most of those, one of the things that is causing a problem is the gradual ebbing away of my libido - it's beginning to affect my relationship and my partner thinks I'm 'going off him' - mens egos are very fragile after all! While I acknowledge this and try my best to 'keep going', tension in the bedroom is something I could really do without! ::)
I know what your menopause consultant means by becoming 'obsessed'. This is the second site I log into every day after checking Facebook! But I can relate to so many of the posts, it's like being a member of an exclusive club - and as so many other members have observed, the menopause is not a subject a lot of middle aged women feel comfortable discussing openly. So this forum is a useful outlet and huge source of information, something I feel lucky to be able to access :)
Honeybun I agree with your comment regarding the aging process being inevitable but resent that it seems to be suddenly happening at a rate of knots!
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Failing libido is a problem for so many women. This is the part I feel most sad about too. I think the more sexdrive we have when we are younger then the harder we fall. I have friends who have hardly noticed the difference but then they were always only a couple of times a week type of women who sort of put up with it rather than actively suggesting it. I haven't found an answer but feel more comfortable now with the fact that this part of my life may be over having spent the last two years fighting to stay the same. It's not easy for our partners of course and during my late night chats in the pub (often the only woman in there) this subject does come up and men struggle to understand - thinking it is their fault.
Taz x
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It was interesting to read, Taz 2 about becoming obsessed with the menopause. However the challenges we face at this stage of our lives does require that we can moan about it to fellow suffers as no one else wants to hear! I have learnt a lot from this site and felt 'heard' by women going through the same thing. I think we are brave, strong women who feel a little lost at times and this site helps us find our way through. I had a very high sex drive which made me make some wrong choices, so not being 'on the boil' so to speak, is quite refreshing. I just hate the pain from VA and the mood swings :) Mind you, my daughters have mood swings with their periods and they moan constantly, so why can't I? Seriously, it's hard and I also wondered if by stopping HRT, how long would it take to get back to 'normal'. Silly me it won't happen. My doc's mother is 72 and my doc told me that when she suggested to her mum that she stop HRT, her mother replied; "Do that and you'll be responsible for me killing your father". enough said.
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Me too with the sex drive thing although after a couple of years without it now I would quite like it back and enjoy making a few odd choices. Sophocles put it so well when he likened losing his sex drive to "being unchained from a lunatic".
After stopping HRT it is advised that if symptoms return it takes around three months for them to reach their peak and then another three to six months to even out again. I will try to chart my progess and see if they are right!!
By being obsessed I think my doc meant that it is easy to blame everything onto meno. We may have a run of headaches - down to meno. We may wake up feeling absolutely horrible with no energy - down to meno. We may lose our temper at work - down to meno. As she said, during our lifetime we have good days and bad days but once we are experiencing the menopause it seems that every little thing is because of meno and not just because the body, both female and male, has bad days. She has also always said never, ever put a new symptom down to meno but check it out. Women have died because they are convinced it "must be the change" when, in effect, it was down to illness.
I agree that this site is a life saver. I think I've been on here since 2005 or 2006 ;D
Taz x
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So much food for thought in this thread. I have been conscious of trying not to think about this new stage in my life too much because I don't want it to overshadow everything else.
When I mentioned in my 'welcome newbie' thread that I'm going to be going off to Europe in a motorhome for the winter, someone called me 'brave' to be going off while I'm menopausal (or words to that effect). It honestly hadn't occurred to me that I might not continue to live my life as I've always lived it and I don't plan to change what I do because of these raging hormones.
Well, not yet anyway! I acknowledge I may have to change my tune if the symptoms worsen, but for now, I'm trying hard to keep things in perspective.
Of course, it's impossible to ignore a hot flush - but I'm trying not to make a big deal of it now. A few weeks ago, my poor OH lived through each and every flush. I'm calming down a bit from the novelty of it and trying to be philosophical.
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You go for it and enjoy every minute. I was fine with HRT and had taken it for two years without a hiccup. Then anxiety came sneaking up and slapped me. It's been difficult ever since which I really resent as I was a go anywhere and do most things kind of person. Now my world is shrinking so if you feel ok then go for it.
Post about your adventures and we can travel with you.
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Thanks, HB. We'll probably leave early next week and I'm thinking about what to stockpile and take with me.
I've used 1000 mg of Evening Primrose for years and I've upped it to 2,000 + 1,000 mg of starflower since reading about it on this forum. Problem is - it will take time before I know if this combination is right for me. So do I bite the bullet and take enough to last me for the next four or five months? Decisions, decisions...
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Wish I had as much courage Gypsy. You go & enjoy. Take enough to last you, for however long, you can always bring any extras back home again.
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I would think that both of these are available in Europe Gypsy so if you do run out you will be able to stock up.
Taz
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Also, I can't put my finger on it but I just don't feel the same as I used to, that is physically and emotionally.
Such an interesting thread. I can relate to so much of it.
Morwenna that is just how I feel - it isn't just the physical thing - it is the emotional too - and all of this is due to our hormones.
I remember having this discussion a while back last year - it's that get up and go, feeling of oomph desire to do and achieve things, getting excited, and of course the sex life. Although like others I am on HRT it just isn't the same. it helps remove most of the physical symptoms, hopefully protects my bones and heart but I will never ever be the same me again and I find that sad.
It takes a while to realise I think, but I am absolutely certain it's because my oestrogen levels are depleted ( probably testosterone too) and there aren't surging up and down like they used to giving all those highs ( and lows too!).
For me once past the menopause I am on a boringly even keel emotionally - life events aside. This is not depression or anxiety - it's more like lack of excitement and without burning desires!!
However it is ,much more important to have and try to maintain good health - so that's what I try to do...
Hurdity x
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Hormones undoubtedly play a huge part in how we feel but I think that even without them we would still be feeling different.
We are all aging and for some of us it's a time of children leaving and also looking after elderly parents. It's a time of change.
I am neither happy not unhappy, contented nor discontented, just feelings of flatness. I need a new direction in life but due to apathy I find it difficult to know what I want for this next chapter.
Honeyb
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Not all women feel this way, I am one of the lucky ones and menopause has not been too bad, I don't feel that much different from before.
What does effect me is just life and its ups and downs and I had them before menopause. My parents dying was a major change for me and turned me into a grownup and aware of my mortality.
I can still be happy and enthusiastic, still be down and anxious, still laugh and cry, being post menopause is much more preferable to the alternative, and I still think this world is a beautiful place (pity about some of the cruel and inhumane humans)
I think the combined HRT can cause the effect of flatness and dampened down sex drive, I remember that's the way the BC pill made me feel, once again advantages and disadvantages.
When I was in my thirties my mother gave me a book about hormones and menopause which started me on the path of finding out all I could about what would happen to my body, I have never found that women would not talk about it and worked at a Well Woman Centre where I gave advice about hormones and menopause and women were very eager to talk about menopause.
A feeling of flatness is a sign that all is not well http://changingtime.wordpress.com/2009/05/03/if-you-are-feeling-emotionally-flat-be-silent-and-listen/
Feeling flat now and then though I think is normal, just part of the human condition.
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Just thought I'd share this with you all; I rang my mother (she's 86 and in Ireland) and decided to ask her if she has ever had vaginal dryness. This was a big thing to ask as she never discusses anything about 'down there' as she calls it. Anyway, I was shocked when she said that she had dried up and was itchy and sore but wouldn't/couldn't ask a doctor about it. It was something to put up with and she put germaline on her 'bits'! I cried afterwards, she was just suffering in silence with no one to talk to about this and has suffered many bladder/kidney infections. I just felt such sorrow for her 'going it alone' and her upbringing has told her it's a taboo subject. The good thing was that at last she did talk to me about it and not run away from the subject.
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I got the GP to prescribe Vagifem for my 91 year old mum. She is more comfortable and although she still has the occasional UTI it's nowhere near as bad as before. Your mum does not have to suffer in silence. If you don't think she would like a pessary then some hormonal cream would help a bit.
Perhaps a word with her practice nurse would help.
Honeyb
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Hi Honeybun
My living in Australia doesn't help to really sit down and talk about it. Can mum still take Vagifem if she has high blood pressure?