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Title: sleeping perfectly well but still totally exhausted
Post by: fiorinda on July 13, 2013, 10:21:44 PM
I'm not suffering from insomnia or night sweats or disturbed sleep - even in this heat. I go to bed tired at about 10.30 (in the week) and I fall straight to sleep and barely register anything till the morning. BUT, I always wake with a bursting bladder and sometimes that's at 5.30. Once I've got out of bed to go to the loo it's almost impossible to go back to sleep, I'm wide awake. However, by 8am when I need to leave for work I'm ready to go back to sleep - even if I didn't wake till my alarm goes off at 6.30. Then I'm spending the day feeling really tired and woozy and woolly headed. Part of the week I'm on my feet all day in a library and the other part I sit at a desk. On Thursday I had to ask my boss to let me take a couple of hours holiday to go home early and go back to bed because I was literally falling asleep at my desk - I couldn't keep my eyes open and felt like I was wading through treacle. I slept for 2.5 hours when I got home and only got up because my partner woke me for dinner!

So I think I'm getting plenty of sleep. I eat a healthy diet with lots of fresh food, I drink plenty of water. I haven't had any alcohol all week, which hasn't made any difference at all.

Is this a peri-menopause symptom or should I go see my GP to find out what's wrong with me?
Title: Re: sleeping perfectly well but still totally exhausted
Post by: honeybun on July 13, 2013, 10:27:02 PM
There would be no harm in getting your bloods done just to make sure all is fine.
A lot of our ladies suffer from crashing fatigue and put it down to meno as every thing else had been ruled out.
Are you on HRT...Sorry I can't remember.

Get a bit of a MOT and make sure it's not something simple like an iron deficiency.

Honeyb
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Title: Re: sleeping perfectly well but still totally exhausted
Post by: Claireylou on July 13, 2013, 10:28:35 PM
Hi Florinda,

That's how I feel at the moment. I'm going to see my GP on Monday to ask for some blood tests. Maybe we're lacking something ? This heat can be so draining too.

Big hugs x


Title: Re: sleeping perfectly well but still totally exhausted
Post by: fiorinda on July 13, 2013, 10:32:09 PM
I'm not on HRT. My sister has had breast cancer 3 times so I probably won't be, unless things get so bad I think the benefits would outweigh the risks. I'm currently taking Vit D (someone here suggested it, might even have been you Honeybun?) and glucosamine, suggested by a workmate for achy joints - not sure it's working though!

I'll call the docs on Monday - you have to have them call you back to triage you to see if you need an appointment, it's not the ideal way to do things unless you're at home all day!!

Thanks Claireylou! Hope you get it sorted out hun! I'm usually fine in the heat, I love it! x
Title: Re: sleeping perfectly well but still totally exhausted
Post by: Joyce on July 14, 2013, 07:07:19 AM
Know the feeling. Initially I would take hours to go to sleep. Now I get to sleep, but waken several times a night. Last night it was a neighbours dog howling in the wee small hours. Night before was a car alarm. I've been to doctor on various occasions and it was suggested on each occasion that I may be depressed! NO, just need a decent nights sleep, whatever that is!
Title: Re: sleeping perfectly well but still totally exhausted
Post by: Rowan on July 14, 2013, 08:43:43 AM
I can remember that feeling in my late forties, mine always hit in the afternoon though I slept well at night, its almost always haphazard hormones

http://www.34-menopause-symptoms.com/fatigue-treatments.htm

Its sounds to me as if you wake up in the middle of a sleep cycle, have to get up, and as you say feel woozy and tired. I think its a phase that will pass.

Taking a good brand vitamin B complex with B12 may help.
Title: Re: sleeping perfectly well but still totally exhausted
Post by: Taz2 on July 14, 2013, 08:58:11 AM
Maybe your partner is disturbing your sleep without you knowing? I find that my best sleep is when I am sleeping alone i.e. when I go away for a few days or, bliss, a whole week. It's been proven that sharing a bed is not the best way to get a good  night's although a shared bed is obviously good for other things!

Taz x
Title: Re: sleeping perfectly well but still totally exhausted
Post by: fiorinda on July 14, 2013, 09:03:36 AM
My partner has been sleeping downstairs some nights recently because of the heat, and it hasn't made any difference really. I'm still waking early. But even if I don't wake early, I still get really tired in the day.

I'll go see my doc. I just hate having to make the appointment!!
Title: Re: sleeping perfectly well but still totally exhausted
Post by: Taz2 on July 14, 2013, 09:45:50 AM
I think that if you are asleep by 10.30 then 5.30 is not that early to be waking to be honest. That's a full seven hours which might be enough - we need less sleep as we get older apparently before our dotage when we seem to sleep all the time!!! A check up would be a good idea. http://www.nhs.uk/Livewell/tiredness-and-fatigue/Pages/why-am-I-tired.aspx

Taz x
Title: Re: sleeping perfectly well but still totally exhausted
Post by: Rowan on July 14, 2013, 10:28:24 AM
"Wading through treacle" is exactly how I use to describe how I felt, my sister tells me that sometimes she comes home from work ( the fatigue starts mid afternoon, she is a Librarian) and lays on the settee and just sleeps, she is not on HRT and she is going through menopause. When the fatigue hits you, its like you have no blood in your veins and you just flop.

Glandular fever left me feeling like this for years too.

Thankfully I don't often feel like this now, making an appointment with you GP will at least put your mind at rest that there is nothing to worry about and that it is peri menopause.
Title: Re: sleeping perfectly well but still totally exhausted
Post by: Claireylou on July 14, 2013, 10:38:37 AM
Silverlady I had glandular fever 17 months ago. Maybe that's why I'm this exhausted ? I thought I'd be over it by now x  :(
Title: Re: sleeping perfectly well but still totally exhausted
Post by: Rowan on July 14, 2013, 11:09:12 AM
You might be interested in this Clairelou  http://www.glandularfever.info/
Title: Re: sleeping perfectly well but still totally exhausted
Post by: Claireylou on July 14, 2013, 11:49:15 AM
Thank you silverlady, most interesting. My GP told me that I'd probably feel a bit off for a month or two after gf but I never imagined it would take this long xxx  >:(
Title: Re: sleeping perfectly well but still totally exhausted
Post by: CLKD on July 14, 2013, 09:15:53 PM
GF can take 2/2.5 years go begin to get over.  It depletes the sufferer of energy for months!
Title: Re: sleeping perfectly well but still totally exhausted
Post by: Claireylou on July 14, 2013, 09:23:34 PM
Oh Lordy, seems that I have a way to go then x  :(
Title: Re: sleeping perfectly well but still totally exhausted
Post by: CLKD on July 15, 2013, 11:47:54 AM
So listen to your body?  If you are tired, rest, you may not necessarily need to sleep.  But the whole body can be affected by GF.  In this heat we also burn up more energy so eating little and often may well help.  I slept heavily, was dreaming vividly - washing down muddy walls  ::) - but woke OK - now I feel as though an afternoon nap would suit just fine ...... however, places to go, people to see ::)
Title: Re: sleeping perfectly well but still totally exhausted
Post by: Claireylou on July 15, 2013, 11:49:15 AM
Thank you CLKD. Sound advice as always x
Title: Re: sleeping perfectly well but still totally exhausted
Post by: CLKD on July 15, 2013, 11:49:59 AM
DH tells me if I took the advice I hand out so freely to others  ::)  :D
Title: Re: sleeping perfectly well but still totally exhausted
Post by: fiorinda on July 15, 2013, 11:59:14 AM
I was still exhausted Saturday (after a day off work Friday, though not exactly a 'day off' as such as I had my 91 year old mother over then when she'd gone I had to attend a meeting about the supper club I ran the previous weekend). Unfortunately I had to work till half 5 Saturday.

Then I actually managed a proper lie in yesterday - woke at half 5 but went back to sleep till half 8!! All day yesterday I felt fabulous! We had a brilliant day in some friends' garden, sitting around chatting, sharing food, drinking wine (2 glasses only though), a fair walk uphill to get there and the same downhill to get home, I stayed up quite late for me last night - about 11.30, then the neighbours decided to take it in turns to stand in the yard having shouted conversations with someone inside just as I went to bed, so it must have been gone midnight when I got to sleep.

I accidentally switched my alarm off instead of hitting snooze this morning and didn't wake till 6.50, but I feel like a new woman today! I walked in to work, no problem, and I feel full of energy and not sleepy at all!! Don't know what's happened, but I'm not complaining..... except for about how painful my boobs are at the moment!!!
Title: Re: sleeping perfectly well but still totally exhausted
Post by: Claireylou on July 15, 2013, 12:06:06 PM
Oh Florinda how wonderful !

I'm so glad you're feeling better. Long may it continue xxx
Title: Re: sleeping perfectly well but still totally exhausted
Post by: CLKD on July 15, 2013, 12:07:49 PM
Don't do too much though!
Title: Re: sleeping perfectly well but still totally exhausted
Post by: fiorinda on July 15, 2013, 01:23:35 PM
Don't worry, CLKD, I never do!  ;D
Title: Re: sleeping perfectly well but still totally exhausted
Post by: honeybun on July 15, 2013, 07:22:58 PM
Does your partner turn in as early as you. I find hubby and I go to bed at much the same time and if I go earlier then I read until he comes to bed because if I get wakened up just after I drop off it can take me hours to get back to sleep.

My two kids one 24 and one 18 are real night owls. My son who is the oldest thinks nothing of staying up all night on the computer. Oh to be young again.  ;D

Honeyb
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Title: Re: sleeping perfectly well but still totally exhausted
Post by: Taz2 on July 15, 2013, 07:35:37 PM
Yes my 24 year old normally goes out around 10.30 to 11 on his nights out - but I think he takes after me! Boundless energy at that age!

Taz x
Title: Re: sleeping perfectly well but still totally exhausted
Post by: fiorinda on July 15, 2013, 07:45:07 PM
No, Lee's a night owl - he usually comes to bed around 12.30/1am, or so he tells me. We speak, apparently, but I'm quite often not aware of it. He always cuddles up and says 'I love you' and I say 'mmf mmf mmf' in reply. I don't usually remember this.

His whole family are the same though, whatever age, they don't sleep well and all stay up late.
Title: Re: sleeping perfectly well but still totally exhausted
Post by: CLKD on July 15, 2013, 09:35:20 PM
 ;D  we have similar conversations  ::)

In this hot weather I am content to lay and read or watch the curtains blowing gently in the breeze - eventually I drop off and find that I 'catch up' - the trick for me is to stop worrying about the lack of hours!