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Menopause Discussion => All things menopause => Topic started by: moonbeam121167 on June 22, 2013, 02:39:41 PM
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Hi is it ok to take Magnesium with added calcium while on HRT, I take 2mg Climival plus Vitamin B complex and also have been taking just Magnesium but found online Higher Nature True Food Calcium & Magnesium and also has added B vitamins, does anyone out there know if they are ok to take while on the hrt
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Perfectly OK moonbeam in fact HRT as well as other drugs can deplete some vitamins and minerals.
http://www.steadyhealth.com/articles/Specific_Drugs_and_the_Nutrients_They_Deplete_a1909.html
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thank you silverlady, because someone said as I am on HRT I shouldnt take calcium :)
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This might help http://www.gp-training.net/training/tutorials/clinical/gynaecology/hrt.htm
Low dose hormone replacement therapy (HRT), when combined with adequate calcium intake and vitamin D levels, can prevent bone loss in postmenopausal women.
My GP has prescribed Calcichew D3 Forte along with estrogen patches for the last 10 years. I also take magnesium to balance the calcium.
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Hi again
even if I have had a total Hysterectomy, I also suffer from acid reflex badly, had a endoscopy and all they said was my esophagus was inflamed, so I dont want to take anything to upset that, I dont take anything for it as I was on Omperazole but it never worked, thanks for your help x
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Omega 3, Vit D3 will help with inflammation and magnesium helps with connective tissue issue and irregular heartbeat. Most are deficient in D3 and mag.
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Hi I take Docters Best chelated magnesium, only been on them for two days and have noticed terrible bad stomach, diarrhea and nausea, was on the Asda own brand and never had this bad of diarrhea . Also I take B Complex and Prozac, I am great on the Hrt , I do have headaches and a bad back and thats why I take the Magnesium but I also have an inflamed stomach, do you think the Docters best Magnesium is the cause of my upset stomach and do you think Vit D will help :)
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Sounds pretty uncomfy moonbeam! I have found this info on chelated magnesium http://www.ehow.co.uk/list_5787451_side-effects-chelated-magnesium.html It has various positive and negative side effects. It may be that it doesn't mix with the other things you are taking?
Taz x
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Hi I am going to try just taking half the dose and see what happens and if I still get the diarrhea then I will stop them and stick to the cheap ones, thanks for the reply xx
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Hi I tried half the dose today and not as bad diarrhea but my I still feel sicky and all day I have had a headache, plus a burning stomach and feeling a bit not with it, all this mostly went when I used the cheap Magnesium but will the chelated version cause these problems after only taking them for 2 days, I did try the magnesium with calcium and that also caused major diarrhea so i think its best to stop the expensive ones and stick to cheap ones, I am sorry for moaning but for the last month I thought I was getting better, things were on the up but for the last 2 days I feel crap and the only thing that has changed is the Magnesium, can anyone help please :)
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hi, i dont know whether this helps you at all but i tried magnesium supplements and got a bad stomach and headaches the a couple of weeks ago i bought a magnesium spray supposed to be good for joint problems, well it hasnt helped my back to be honest but what i have noticed is that for no apparent reason my mood has been alot lighter :) i dont know why but i thought just spraying this each night wasnt going to do much but as i say its the only reason i can think of that its picked my mood up. kerrie
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Hi Kerrieann thanks for your reply, I think I will stop taking them and start again with the cheap ones in a day or two and hope , touch wood it I will feel better :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :)
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good luck i hope they dont upset you and if they do then maybe you could try the spray :)
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Hi all,
back on the Asda magnesium and stopped the B complex and so far feeling ok, god I hope it continues xxxxxxxx
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Hi all , an up date, the last couple of days I have been feeling really tired, bad nausea, today I have not taken any magnesium because I still going to the toilet 4 maybe 5 times a day, I am really dont know what to do anymore, if this is what menopause is its sucks, people say once they go on HRT they are a new woman but I am certainly not, I take my HRT every morning , is it best to take before or after food or is it best to take at night, I will still take the Prozac but as for anything else like the Magnesium is not helping, can anyone out there help please, I feel like crying, I am tired of all this nausea and being tired :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(
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sorry your feeling so rubbish :( the magnesium tablets gave me a real upset stomach and nausea but i have really found the spray good, no side effects all and my mood has been soo much better, just a thought x kerrie
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Hi how long will it take to get of my system, I took one yesterday and today I feel real bad, awful nausea, cant be bothered to do anything just want to sleep, my stomach is burning and my head feels just total not with it, I want to cry :'(
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do you think it's defiantly the magnesium making you feel so rough ? not anything else, i know that my stomach does not tolerate much in the way of vitamins etc and if i try things and they upset my stomach i try and drink as much water as possible for a few days to flush it through.
|I do hope you feel better soon, feeling nauseous is the most horrible feeling x kerrie
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Sorry you are still feeling horrible Moonbeam. Can I ask who told you to take magnesium? Are you sure you actually need it?
I am not sure when the best time to take HRT pills is - I didn't last long on mine as they gave me stomach ache and made me feel sick plus I got bleeding all the time so I went back onto patches.
Taz x
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Hi Taz2 been having headaches and after looking on here people said mag would help, today I am feeling real awfully, couldnt eat my breakfast, bad nausea burning in my stomach and miserable and today I had an horrible adrenaline surge, dont know what to do, HRT has been geat with all those symptoms till now, help please xx
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Have you tried any antacids to try and calm your tummy down. Zantac or something a bit stronger.
You might have irritated your already delicate stomach and it can take a while to calm down.
I do sympathise, it's wrotten feeling this way.
Honeyb
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Milk of magnesia has always been used for the symptoms that you describe
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2352139/Milk-Magnesia-disappears-British-shelves-ingredients-fall-foul-EU-meddlers.html so much so that there was an outcry when it was taken of the shelves due to an European regulation, but is being brought back. I prefer the American version which is unsweetened, you can get it on amazon.
I am sure that magnesium per se is not the cause of your symptoms, what it can do is loosen your bowels if you take too much and make you go to the loo. It could be that the type and brand of magnesium you are taking does not agree with you, so you must stop them and if your symptoms continue make an appointment with your doctor.
One thing I would never take supermarket own brand vitamins and minerals.
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Here are some natural sources of magnesium in food
http://www.healthaliciousness.com/articles/foods-high-in-magnesium.php
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Hi all I really dont know what it is, got the docters on Monday but I have no confidence in them, my stomach problems have been going on for about 1 yr, as I said before had a endoscopy and all they said was my stomach was inflamed, didnt say what to do or nothing, I was told by one young GP is the oral HRT is fine on the stomach but people on here tell me it isnt, I did try the patch but I didnt feel it was stronger enough, I would have be ok and then just over 2 days I would have a low, Estraderm mx 50g and same gp said there isnt a stronger one so I went back on the pills, whenever I eat the well bad nausea and burning and in the morning I go to toilet at least 3 or 4 times, and it isnt diarrhea , need help :'(
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Found this http://www.channel4.com/health/microsites//0-9/4health/body/hal_indigestion.html
As for HRT, anything stronger then Estraderm 50 have been discontinued, but there are other brands, also there is Estrogel. I don't know your HRT history so not sure what to suggest.
When you go to GP on Monday I would ask for more tests and second opinion.
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Moonbeam, sounds like you are having an unpleasant time, I use Estradot and they have a 50 to so you could try a 75 or 100 if you felt 50 was not enough, one good tip I got on here was changing the patch every 3 days and I change it in the morning . This really helped me. I use magnesium spray as a deodorant and I doubt the magnesium is causing all those symptoms but know that people tolerate it better in spray form, :P
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Also if it stings, mix the magnesium oil with some moisture lotion or cream and apply.
Epsom salts are magnesium to, just sprinkle a little in your bath and soak, it softens the water too.
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H thanks for all your kindness, my hubby thinks I shouldnt go back to the patches but I need to do something, I have stopped the mag, 2nd day of no mag, do you think B complex is ok to take as I am very stressed person and the Prozac 20mg is not great, as you said there are others patches to try and they surely got to better on my stomach than pills, not sure were to ask for some PPI eg Lansoprazole as Omperazole didnt help :)
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Hi going to try Magnesium spray as today my headaches have been continuous , going to try taking my hrt at night tomorrow and Sunday and see if that helps before I go to GP, I am sorry to be a pest all the time but I am fed up of feeling horrible, I just want to cry :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(
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Hi moonbeam,
I'm afraid I don't have any experience with hrt or magnesium but I do know what it's like to feel scared, unsure, alone etc. I just wanted you to know that you're not alone and I'm sending you a big cwtch (welsh for cuddle)
Xxxxxxx :)
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Hi I thank you for the big Cwtch being Welsh my self , not sure if it is the magnesium but I have stopped it anyway and thought I will try the spray, this Menopause is crap, women have a lot of shit to put up with havn't we ;D :) :)
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We certainly do cariad xxx
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try not to worry about your symptoms and i know how hard that is, as i am the worlds worst stresser and my other half always asks me what i will achieve by worrying, and he's right but do try to relax it will help :) hope you're feeling better soon x kerrie
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Hi Moonbeam
I also use Magnesium Spray (Better You) which suits me. I do not use it every day. I also use magnesium flakes in my bath. Silverlady said you can mix it into body lotion if it stings a bit. You can also dilute it a little at the beginning with mineral water.
You can actually make your own by using magnesium flakes and mineral water. Although it is called an oil, it is a mix of magnesium and water.
I also use the Better You Vitamin B12 mouth Spray and the same make of Vitamin D3.
I am sorry that you are trying so hard to feel better and you are not having the result you are looking for.
You can get your magnesium levels checked at the doctor. Also your vitamin D levels.
Fx
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Hi I have bought some Mag spray and hope that helps, taking some domperidone again to help with the nausea and I am going to GP on Monday and see if she can help, not sure if my oral HRT is not working properly or its just my stomach is playing up, going to ask about the patches again, and going to ask about some Vagiferm as well, going to keep off any vitamins and hope it will help :) :)
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Take a list ?
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Hi I have already written one but thanks for the advice :)
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Hello
I have also had similar problems to you with the acid reflux and also with magnesium making IBS worse.
I have also had the endoscopy and it came back clear been on omeprazole for about four years sometimes seemed to work mostly didn't but now I have got so bad with it they think I have a stomach ulcer and have to have the camera down again. The good news is they have given me Nexium (finally asked before but they would not change think it is more expensive) and there has been a slight improvement from last week and I started it on Thursday. I also had a hysterectomy then had to go back for ovaries to come out due to endo and have done menopause cold turkey as I found I was worse on HRT and could only take the HRT with progestogen in. I am still flushing for Britain 6 years later do not know if it will ever stop but just wanted to say you are not alone with this I understand totally what you are dealing with.. and I hope you can get some Nexium and that it will help you. My sister in law swears by it she says it is the best PPI.
Best wishes
Forgetful
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Hi today they gave me some Lansoprazole and I am more blood test done on Wednesday to check for other stuff, I am not seeing GP again till 27th August as she is on her holidays from next week, if these new pills dont do it I will ask for the ones you have , thanks for your response means alot x :) :) :) :)
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Hello again Moonbeam
I know what a horrible condition it is. I had weeks on the omeprazole where it did not seem too bad and then it would flare up and be really awful again. I have a friend I went to school with who has it as well..she is also on omeprazole and they sometimes work and sometimes don't ??? We go for a coffee every week but now its got that we have to have de caff instead of the real deal and we can't always have the cake due to the fat in the butter icing so end up having rock cakes which usually are alright. I used to like a mild curry sometimes but cannot touch anything like that now but can sometimes get away with chinese if it is not too spicy. As for alcohol I can't even go there although I have got away with a shandy on occasion. I hope the Lanazprazole work for you. How much are you on? I am taking 40mg of Nexium all at once before the evening meal.. I was taking 20 mg of omeprazole in the morning and 20 mg in the evening before. I hope you feel better soon .
Best wishes
Forgetful
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Hi I was given 30mg of lansoprazole but I did notice when started on the Omprazole I was getting a very bad head but didnt think of it thought maybe it was the weather :P but then I took a lansoprazole and had the same real real bad head, so today I never took one and I have been ok so I think its those pills, my Gp is ringing on Friday to see if I can get a different one, you said you are on Nexium are they good as I need something as my poor stomach is crap today , thanks for you reply xx
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Hello
Well I think so far the Nexium has made my stomach a lot better than it was this time last week which was the worst it has ever been.. the doc thought I may have an ulcer. I think its still early days yet as it needs time to heal. It is more expensive than the other ones. Do you sleep flat at night? I have books and a pillow under the mattress and two pillows on top of that. You are meant to sleep on your left side if you have reflux but although I try to sometimes I end up turning over. There is an operation you can have to stop it but I don't fancy that. Do not know why some people get it more than others but I know it runs in our family. My little grandaughter aged 8 is already on omeprazole and gaviscon as her cardiac spincter never closed and my Auntie has not even got one. :o I never had problems until I was forty four thats when it started and it got worse after I had the hyst and the ovaries out. Hope you get some relief soon.
Best wishes
Forgetful
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Hi well so far the lansoprazole is doing ok,going to give it a whirl till I see my Gp and go from there, thanks for your kind response xx
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to moonbeam what hrt are you taking the right one makes you feel like a new woman you have to go thru a few like myself to find the one to suit yourself..I take magnesium mine is Oxytarm with added vit c, I take two every night increased from 1..its a hydroxide formula which cleanses the colon naturally like a laxative,allso it stops bloating and clears your skin..lots of makes don't dissolve in in your stomach or have a reaction..on the hrt again try Climesse 2mg of estradiol and 0.7mgs of norethisterone..Makes me feel me again..brilliant.. paty
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Hello Moonbeam glad the Lanzaprazole is working ;D my stomach pain is a lot better though I still have a lot of heartburn and indigestion but I think it takes a while to heal if it has been really bad.. my doc told me if its an ulcer it takes two months and from other posts on gerd elsewhere if it is all inflamed in there it takes a while to settle down after going on the pills. I am taking gaviscon after meals as well which is what the specialist in charge of my grandaughter has her do she is on four times a day gaviscon and omeprazole. Does not seem to bother her thankfully and she is always eating loads. Personally I think the indigestion thing is worse than the hot flushes and I think it starts up for a lot of people at this time due to poor muscle control with no estrogen. I can only take HRT with progestogen cos of my endo and that makes it worse and makes me grumpy as well (like I'm not grumpy enough already :o) so thats why after trying HRT for six months after the surgical meno I decided to go cold turkey without HRT. At least its cooler now I could not handle that heat at all.
Hope you continue to improve.
Forgetful x