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General Discussion => This 'n' That => Topic started by: CLKD on April 16, 2013, 06:51:12 PM
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I need new bins. For the kitchen. The peddle one doesn't always lift the lid and when DH is cooking he doesn't want to have to touch it whilst preparing grub. So we need a set of 3 - one for compost, one for dustbin and another for re-cycling plastics/glass. Anyone?
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I admire your dedication to the cause CLKD.
I would try harder if I knew that my efforts were not in vain. Hundreds of thousands of tons goes abroad to be dumped.
Begs the question......why bother.
Honeyb
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Our kitchen bin just gets the things we can't recycle put in it and food as we don't do compost. The recycling items sit on the worktop until someone is going to the recycling bins out in the garden - usually me, feel like I'm out and in a million times a day, don't think we'd do as much recycling if left to the other two ::)
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I think I spent 3/4 of my week emptying bins ::). Our Council has sent letters explaining that the Company that collects our recycling does not send it to China or abroad! Rumours only. We are lucky in that our Council is dedicated to keeping as much stuff out of land-fill which in the end saves for the householder on our Rates. If you check with your Council they will explain where it all goes to!
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We have 3 mini bins in a large kitchen drawer. One for general, one for paper/card and one for plastic/cans. They are quite small so they need emptying into the large bins outside every couple of days. We also have a small bin under the sink for food waste.
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Councils sell rubbish to contractors and don't ask what happens to the rubbish. They then ship it out of this country. It's very wide spread. In our area we have three bins.
The whole lot goes in one tip.
It's a joke.
I do recycle simply because if I don't then I can't get everything in one bin.
Cynical......who me.
Honeyb
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Our Council doesn't .......... not any more. A lot from various Councils does go to Aisia in those huge containers that one sees leaving Southampton. That's OK if it is then melted down, and probably sold back to the UK ;D. It depends on what has value and if it can be used before being sold abroad.
A bit like chickens: raised in the UK, slaughtered and lorried to France to be packed, sold back to the UK on a tray wrapped in plastic - all for £2.00 each :o
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I have one bin in the house for landfill. The little food waste bin supplied by the council I use for tins and plastics and a bag on the back of the door for paper, card etc. I only use the green bin for garden waste, any food waste I still put into landfill. Not that there is very much of that anyway. The odd half potato or veg peelings. Amazing how little now goes into the landfill when the plastic and tin goes elsewhere. I would like to have bins all lined up in my kitchen for all 4 (or 5) 'wastes' but my kitchen ain't that big! The same outside, we each have 3 big wheelie bins and 1 half size wheelie bin. Too many bins, too little space!
Bramble
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They will probably do more in the store CLKD, we got one large one and 2 smaller ones from there.
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South Northants District Council:
"There were reports in the national press last weekend claiming that much recyclable waste collected by councils in the UK was in fact ending up in landfill sites in Asia.
"South Northamptonshire Council wants to emphasise that none of the domestic recyclable waste it collects from its residents ends up in landfill. Everything the council collects for recycling is properly, efficiently and effectively dealt with.
"The council works in partnership with specialist recycler UPM, based in Shotton near Chester.This site is one of the largest paper mills in the UK as well as having very advanced methods of dealing with other materials.
"At UPM, mixed recyclables from the black recycling box are put onto a conveyer belt where steel and aluminium are removed by magnets and electric currents. Air jets then separate cardboard and plastics according to weight and density. The paper from the green boxes goes to the paper mill to be cleaned, pulped and made into newsprint.The steel, aluminium, cardboard and plastics are prepared for further processing. Metals are smelted for reuse and plastics reprocessed and typically used in the manufacture of such things as car bumpers and fleeces. All of these materials have value and are sold. South Northamptonshire Council has negotiated very good deals to ensure we get good prices for the materials that we recycle.
"Added to this your green garden waste is turned into compost. Glass from the green recycling boxes is dealt with separately and after being bulked locally it is taken to Barnsley to be turned into new glass bottles and jars.
"Cllr Dermot Bambridge, portfolio holder for environmental services said "The more we recycle, the less we send to land fill, which is very expensive. So you can rest assured that your efforts are not wasted. When you take the trouble to sort your waste into recyclable and non recyclable items we will ensure that anything that can be recycled will be. In fact the newspaper you read on Monday could be recycled and back on the news stand within a week."
"Cllr Bambridge added: "We're not going to rest on our laurels though.The new recycling measures that we're introducing soon will mean more materials will be collected and recycled, and even less going to landfill. Waste food will be processed to run electric generators with the residual matter used as fertiliser on farmland"."
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We are all going to need more room for all these PLASTIC non bio degradable bins.
Our garden waste is now to be combined with food waste. We have a blue bin for glass and paper and a grey bin for the rest. It's a bloomin eye sore.
Honeyb
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We don't have garden waste or food waste collected. We have a grey bin for non-recyclable stuff which is where any food waste is put (although my garden birds demolish most food we leave) and a green one for paper, tins, cardboard and some plastics. I think you can pay so much a year for garden waste to be collected once a month.
Taz x
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We have 4 bins, plus a small one for food waste.
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One should NOT have to pay extra for recycling >:( Norfolk Council does this for garden waste wheelie bins and it is against EU Law ::)! Food waste is going to be burned so we MUST use the little grey buckets given free by the Council. Each Council should have a duty of care towards their recyling aims on their web-site (as above). A lot of waste is taken to HUGE recycling warehouses where it is sorted out, often by hand, into what can be sold for further recyling, therefore less goes into landfill. I keep meaning to book a day at MK recycling but haven't had time ::)
The only food waste we will put into the little grey bucket will be bones and fat, which currently is buried deep into our garden compost bins. We dont' have rats otherwise I wouldn't do so.
When we get a whole new set of bins the old ones will be crushed and recycled to use for more bins, as is alumiumin and cans etc. anyway. The biggest problem we have in the UK is tyres!!!!! and plastic carrier bags.
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Our waste food goes into little bio degradable bags and then into our garden waste bin which is emptied every week. It has only recently started and I have only put that waste bin out twice. It's normally eggshells and bones and left overs and having a son who eats like a pony there is never much left. I am actually quite pleased by how little we do throw out. It means less money is being wasted on things we don't use.
Recycling is really nothing new. Our parents reused lots of things. Stuff came in glass bottles which went back to the shops and most areas had a pig man for food waste.
Honeyb
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We have
Black bin - general waste.
Blue bin - plastics, cans, paper cardboard and other recyclables.
Brown bin - garden waste and food waste - emptied in summer.
Small brown bin with biodegradable bags in the house for food waste - emptied into slightly larger brown bin outside for food waste - emptied weekly when summer brown bin not being emptied.
Green bin - bottles and glass of a certain type.
I don't want to have an armoury of bins sitting in my kitchen - and don't really have the space, so I tend to have a couple of bags in the utility room - general and recycling which I empty into the larger bins daily. The small brown food waste is inside, and I nip outside to put glass in the brown one.
I agree with the principle but is it practical to have so many bins. Some houses hav eto have them outside the front because they may be terraced and no access to the back. It is unsightly.
I happen to have what was a dead space just at the side of the house and so I had it framed and decked and I keep the bins there. they look neat. otherwise, it would irritate me having so many.
CLKD. I had a friend who operated a wormery out the back and created his own 'baby bio' type garden food. perhaps you could have a look at something like that and see if that would suit? I did not grasp it at the time but it made perfect sense and it really did recycle all the garden and food waste into something he could use for his (beautiful and lush) garden.
Fx
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We have a wormery, it's known as a compost ;) ......... we don't use the liquid in the same way as it seeps into the ground. It will be the best soil for miles around when we move the compost onto the garden 8)
Our family have composted for over 100 years (so far)
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Sorry CLKD but that sounds as if your family are being composted.
;D
Honeyb
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Yep ........... sort of ::)
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But not in your back garden I hope.
;D
Honeyb
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How impractical that we all have different coloured bins for things, why not the same everywhere? We have:
Grey bin for unrecycables and food waste - emptied fortnightly
Brown bin for garden waste -emptied fortnightly except winter
Blue bin for plastics, cans etc - emptied fortnightly
Small red box for glass -emptied fortnightly with blue bin and these are alternate weeks from grey/brown bins
We keep the 3 large bins out back and the small red box in the garage, hate when it's windy and the red box gets blown away then have to hunt it down!
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I get really confused....what and when.
My mum had a pull out permit.....easy....should be but she insists that her back gate is locked so I have to take the bin out the day before but because she has the permit and lives alone the bins only go out once a fortnight. I get so mixed up.
It's all so difficult.
Honeyb
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Hi Honeybun.
I know what you mean about frequencies of different bins and different days.
I don't know about your council but our has the facility online y
To print month at a glance diary with pictures of the bins on the relevant days. Prior to finding that I used a kitchen diary and added it in for the year. I also put it into my phone diary with a reminder set when I needed to put them out. Not being a Smartypants. Just wondered if something like that would help?
Fx
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It's the pull out permit thingy that confuses things because it does not apply to every uplift.
If we could just let them come in the garden and get the bin then that would solve the problems.
I have it written on her calendar but I have got it wrong more than once ::)
Honeyb
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Ours are emptied every other week - I have to carry the card with the dates on to the bins otherwise I forget >:( .......... apparently our men are only working a 4 day week now ............
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I put this into the search 'up there' and it didn't show up and a lot of my 'unread posts' don't show either >:(
I digress: did anyone read the article in the Sat. Telegraph, Joanna Lumley went to Africa to follow where our recycled clothes from M&S/Oxfam finish up? Really, really interesting - I read it at 12.30 this morning waiting for the neurofen to kick in :D
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No - I did not read it CLKD. But I have located it and will read it tomorrow.
Thanks.
Fx
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I didn't read the article re Joanna Lumley very closely after all that ::) - skimmed through the 1 in the Guardian at the weekend and wondering how we can become 'less' plastic?
I try to carry either 'bags for Life' to the shops or hessian bags ........
Meat comes on a black tray covered in a plastic type film - some can be recycled, others not
Some of the weekend papers/magazines are plastic wrapped - it seems to vary as to where the papers are printed
Bags in the supermarkets have one paper side the other plastic for bread :-\ - I tend to separate when putting into the bins
Soaps - all wrapped in plastic although apparently Lush have plastic-free toiletries and ScoopAway (Bristol) and Better Food Company sell toilet rolls not wrapped in plastic
Tea bags apparently contain a small amount of plastic so will try to buy loose leafs in future
Seeing the photos of Hamilton Island recently where most of the World's discharged plastics land up has re-alerted me: Must Try Harder ::)
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Where to store them though ;D - we have 2 vehicles; a cupboard under the sink another under the stairs, all possibilities to forget to take them along, plus two Onyas ::)
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We just got new bins for recycling cans, bottles. However plastics are more difficult. Some can & some can't. Arghhhhhh