Menopause Matters Forum
Menopause Discussion => Other Health Discussion => Topic started by: Rowan on April 02, 2013, 09:29:29 AM
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Do you think things will improve now for patients.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-21999532#
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So that is a loaded question Rowan... but important to think about.
Improve in what way? ie What is it that needs improving that these changes could bring about?
I am concerned about competition and tendering for services which can include private companies. Surely this means the potential for profit to override patient care and safety?
I mean look what happened with the railways as an example? I don't think we should mix up our health with the need to satisfy shareholders. I can see that the fundamental principle of the NHS being free at the point of need can still be upheld but at what cost (and I don't mean financial here).
Maybe having GPs control budgets is a good thing but only if it avoids waste and more money going towards healthcare and services becoming less bureaucratic and more efficient (if that is what's needed).
Actually I don't really know much about the issues in detail so my view is probably far too simplistic.
Hurdity x
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i do not feel it will improve things. already my surgery has stopped patients using a repeat prescription service at a local chemist as they are saying too many drugs are being ordered. they are won't let you order prescription over the phone only online or in person fine for me but elderly patients will struggle. they also wp t let you have more than a months worth of anything now too. this seems more bureaucratic than before.
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No I dont :(
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Probably not, as the NHS is still in debt. :(
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Not sure at all. Sorry to say I dont know whether to trust the GP's any more than the PCT's. It may still be a cost cutting exercise for the patient and then there might be further erosion of the good relations which should exist between GP and patient, already maybe at a low ebb!
Meg
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We have no prblems in Ozz?
We pay $60 to see a GP get about $30 back in Medicare rebate you go to a centre to get it back
We pay for btests xrays everyhing thats not in a Hospital situation
Theres no people dropping dead in the street If oyu need a transplant you get one
Its just no a dependant society we pay taxes same as home just as much We dont earn much more
But we are expected and get taxed at a higher rate if we dont also take out Private health insurance
AND ITS A LABOUR GOVERNMENT over 30 you pay higher medicare levy (tax) if you dont take out private insurance
So you dont have that holiday in Torrmalinos or a new car every 4th year here its expected that YOU PAY
People dont expect taxpayers to subsidise them I know when I came here I was stunned shocked beyond words
Now to me too its normal that I pay Im off now to a Dental Tech I will pay 170pounds nothing from medicare
They dont cover teeth eyes list goes on so you HAVE to have private I will probably get 70pounds back from Pmedicine
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The GPs aren't getting the final say in how money is spent/services are used etc. They have to answer to a new Quango which the govt has introduced. In fact despite the idea being to cut bureaucracy (sp?!) new levels are being introduced. It's all a bit smoke and mirrors.
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Pen pushers making more jobs for themselves buggars xxxxxx
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I just asked my OH what he thought, he said that he did not think so and he says that GPs may not know enough about budgeting or have the management skills and it could result in uneven provision from surgery to surgery.
He is a retired banker so he maybe thinking of it from that angle.
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I only heard some of this programme but it touched on the new NHS 111 service and also on fasting and the link between cancer and obesity. http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b01rl8nq
Taz x
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Ah yes, that was where I heard it Taz. The GP who said he and his partners had tried to opt for a service that the patients requested and which they thought was best but was outvoted by the "authority". I think it was out of hours care wasnt it?
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Yes - I'll listen properly later!
Taz x
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Cuts are being made all the time in public services,so it can only get worse,unless we all start paying a lot more towards this 'treasured' service, like they do so in other countries. Sorry for the doom and gloom but being realistic.
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I like Suzi Q answer. It's what we should do here. That way we may well get good continuity of care. Right now just seeing the GP of choice is impossible.
Our large purpose built practice, is ridiculously under used, many rooms promised all manner of services never materialised. Not one GP works full time for their £150.000 salary.
I could go on and on.
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I can ring up this am Saturday any one of 10 sugeries in my imed area and get an appt with a GP
We have a vard WE KEEP as we pay for it and if your GP cant see you you go to another
Youd only do that for a sore throat etc as we do have family GPs but thats only if you want
MY son has our family GP but he would go there 1 time a year if that
He just goes tro any GP for a sore throat He goes to our GP foir his flu jab
You think 2/3 times before you go to GPs cos you PAY
You can find GPS who do whats called as BULK BILL they swipe your Medicare card you pay nothing but they are normally in very poor areas and you may have to wait a week to see them if your not prepaying
Ozz is not a dependant society always been that way since Ive been here theres no IM ENTITLED here in anyway
It would mean entire cultural change in UK to stop this entitled dependANT SAOCIETY dont think anyones got the will