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General Discussion => Birthdays and Events => Topic started by: CLKD on June 06, 2017, 10:41:38 PM
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Amal Clooney has given birth to twins - a girl named Ella and a boy named Alexander.
:congrats: some happy news for a change
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Congratulations to both of them, but TBH I'd be a very offended to only be referred to as "Mrs Husband's Name" and not my own name, as per the title of this thread. That's an incredibly old fashioned thing to do. It's like she's not getting any recognition in her own right for all her hard work.
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So happy for them, good heavens, so much to bother about in the world at the moment, I wouldnt lose sleep over the fact that her husbands surname has been used tad trivial. Well done to the Clooneys... :)
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It makes a change to have some good news + I like their choice of names. I've got to say though lots of 'stars' are opting for designer twins, I think they must all be going to the same clinic x
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Dana I got a telling off from daughter for doing that when sending a card. Only did it once! 😂
There are pictures of Amal with a bump. Love the normal names of Ella & Alexander.
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So happy for them, good heavens, so much to bother about in the world at the moment, I wouldnt lose sleep over the fact that her husbands surname has been used tad trivial. Well done to the Clooneys... :)
It's not the Clooney surname I commented on. A woman makes her own choice about what surname she uses. However I'm sure Amal didn't change her name to "Mrs George Clooney". I'm pretty sure she kept her own first name.
I find it really grates on me. I'm actually surprised that anyone of our generation thinks it's socially acceptable these days. Didn't we already win that particular fight - the right to our own name?
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My mums always addressed mail that way and I did the same I dont find it offensive at all, quite nice actually... ;)
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Different generations Cassie, I don't have a problem with it myself, but our daughter made her feelings quite clear, saying she agreed to take her husband's surname only. That was me told! I respect her feelings.
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I think calling them Mr and Mrs George Clooney is dreadful, personally. That etiquette dates from when married women were legally their partner's property. Amal Clooney is 39 and has achieved as much in her own right if not more than her heart-throb, coffee-loving actor husband.
I try to address cards to friends as they wish to be addressed, not how I wish to address them.
I made it clear when I married that I wasn't changing my name but if older rellies prefer to address Christmas cards in (non-existent) married names then I am not going to be rude to them - and I notice that over the years, they've changed.
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I have always addressed envelopes to Mr (man's name or initials) and Mrs (woman's name or initials) then the surname, eg Mr Fred and Mrs Betty Bloggs. My mother in law used to address letters and cards as Mr and Mrs (husband's name) then surname as in the title of this thread because she would have loved to erase me from the family if she could have It really got up my nose >:(
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I dont think this thread was meant to be about what its become, just to celebrate the joyous ocassion of new birth after whats been a really lousy week.. :'(
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:yes:
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Can't wait to see photos of them, bound to be gorgeous! :)
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like all conversations irl, it has meandered :-X
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Crikey Dana get off your high horse! In these days of people dying on UK streets I thought a little Good News would be welcomed, not pulled apart :bang: :bang: :bang: my Mum taught me that if one doesn't have something good to say, to keep Big Gob shut.
I have to add that it never crossed my mind that it shouldn't be Mr and Mrs ........ I wasn't even thinking of the 'correct' way even though I am a secretary and was taught proper!!!! I have always been Mrs Hismself and PROUD to be so!
... and don't get me started on people dying to give *me* the Vote 'cos they didn't - they did it for themselves.
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Can't wait to see photos of them, bound to be gorgeous! :)
I read that George and Amal skyped George's parents two hours after the birth and Amal looked gorgeous and George's Dad said the babies are gorgeous with lots of dark hair and George's Mum thinks one of the babies has George's nose! :)
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:thankyou: Cassie
I am offended that what began as Good News has been hijacked - perhaps if women on here felt strongly enough another thread should have been started :'(
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And breathe......
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I wonder if she had a caesarian!
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Out through the sun roof? or was that what she was told ...... and breath :D
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Yes I agree CLKD it was lovely to read this thread after such a dismal few days.
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There's a Society for parents with twins ......... for sharing etc..
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Most people I know that had twins had a c-section. I imagine Amal did too! She looks too posh to push!!
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The 5 people I know that had twins - all had normal deliveries, C-sections were not an option. 3 sets were born at home, it was the 1950s. At 1 point we had 4 sets of twins in our School of 450.
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I think C Sections are more common nowadays be it twins or singletons. I had to have sections, normal delivery wasn't an option.
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One of my first bosses had two sets of twins, all boys!
Why was a c-section not an option? I'm glad it was an option for two of my pregnancies.
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It certainly wasn't thought necessary and probably deliveries were supervised differently. C-section were given as a matter of Life or Death so not necessary for the people I knew.
I could tell the difference of those 2 sets of twins in my year and the pair above but the pair 3 years below looked alike and I never did get them sorted ::) . The latter could even tease their Mum but apparently their Dad could tell ......... ::)
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Megamind, my daughter was breach & wasn't moving as much, so they decided to be safe. With son I developed pre-eclampsia, so at 35 weeks, I had section. First time hubby wasn't allowed in as general anaesthetic, only one guy could do spinal blocks & he was busy. My friends saw hubby being introduced to our daughter in tears. Thankfully got epidural for son, so hubby was allowed in.
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My sons heart rate dropped dramatically and his head was stuck so emergency c-section and husband couldn't come in but he did cry when they handed him our son. Then I became really ill...tough time which put me off for a while but I did go ahead and have another child but that time opted for an elective c-section in case it all went wrong again and yes, husband was allowed in that time.
To think lots of women would die years ago in childbirth so thank goodness for c-sections.
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Twins are just lovely. We had three sets of IVF twins in one street that I lived in. One set was a natural delivery. Other two were sections.
As for my sections. My son would have died if he hadn't been born that way....hubby wasn't there as I had a general. By the time we came to my second daughter I didn't have a choice. It seemingly puts too much strain on things when you have had two previous C sections.
I love the choice of names.....normal for a change.
Lovely news so well done them.....well her ;D
Mrs Brown
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Those were emergency C-sections . Quite understandable :).
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The 5 people I know that had twins - all had normal deliveries, C-sections were not an option. 3 sets were born at home, it was the 1950s. At 1 point we had 4 sets of twins in our School of 450.
My twin sister and I were in a class with two other sets of twins in early primary school. That poor teacher........... ::)
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One of my first bosses had two sets of twins, all boys!
I'm from two sets of twins, Megamind, although we're one set of each. At least our parents could tell the sets apart! :)
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I had 5 pregnancies and 2 of them were fraternal twins, I lost one of each and my nan was a fraternal twin and her mum had about 4 sets
During my first twin scan i was told I had a bicornuate uterus and ovulated from both ovaries each month so wonder if my great grandmother had the same
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Genetics fascinates me. Sometimes a lady is un-aware of carrying twins as 1 may be absorbed or 'lost' very early on. Do the children that were twins Annie feel that they are 'half' of a pair?
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No they don't, I've asked them that question. Twin 1 disintegrated and came away at 14 weeks, twin 2 miscarried with blood/pain at 6 weeks, they took me for a scan and the remnants of what was the sac was visible . Only reason I was given this privilege of early scan is because I'd miscarried preg #2 and preg #3 was my stillbirth so twins were preg #4 & 5 x
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Interesting how we differ in what we 'feel' we have or not ::). Devastating for you though :sigh:
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Thank you x
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I find genetics fascinating too CLKD, my sister is a geneticist and tells me all sorts of interesting things. My husband's siblings for example are fraternal twins (dizygotic) they are a boy and a girl and come from separate eggs. His sister has herself had twins and they are monozygotic i.e. they are identical (girls) and have come from one egg which split. He's got cousins who are twins also, so I would have had a strong chance of having them, but sadly we met too late x
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Identical should have the same placenta ........
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There were three sets of twins in my dads family. All live births and given the fact my dad was born in 1913 and the twins before and after him that was no mean feat.
I was told.....old wives tale....that twins skipped a generation so I had a higher chance of twins. Didn't happen.
Have to say that would probably been it for me.
Mrs Brown
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I was told that too and a year B4 we were married, we found out that there are indeed, twins on Mum's side :o
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Husband's siblings have disapproved that theory ie twins have had twins, but also they were different types of twins which I find interesting x
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My friend is an identical twin and her 3rd pregnancy was identical twins
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That's a lot of Nappies :D
I understand that Beyonce has given birth .........
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Friend of mine is an identical twin. Her children are all singletons. Eldest child had twins.
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There were three sets of twins in my dads family. All live births and given the fact my dad was born in 1913 and the twins before and after him that was no mean feat.Mrs Brown
Wow. That's incredible, Mbrown.
When my mother had given birth to our twin brothers, the family doctor visited her at home, took one look at my twin sister, myself and our new brothers and said to her, "You're going to have your hand full now, Mrs. K." Apparently, Mum promptly burst into tears! :)
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My dad came from a family of 13....they had big families in those days.
Wow, your mum must have been run ragged ::)
Mrs Brown
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My Grand and Gt Grand-parents were from large families. 1 set of twins on the maternal side ....... none B4 or since!