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Title: Feel like #£%&
Post by: Joyce on May 03, 2013, 08:32:01 AM
Sorry to moan, but I really feel awful. I have been suffering with tiredness & aches for months now. Occasionally have good spells, but generally feel I'm fighting a losing battle. Been making myself go swimming etc. However, last night the pains were so bad I hardly slept a wink. It seems to go in cycles like this. Not too bad and gradually building up to this. Pain so bad I thought I would throw up. Last time I saw GP I had bloods done and nothing untoward showed up. Mainly tiredness was the problem then, but this time it's the pain too.  I've made an appointment for this afternoon as I don't think I can stand another night like last night, plus it's the weekend.  Last time I had a lot of pain, GP gave me amitryptiline, made not a jot of difference. Then had physio referral, but pain is back with a vengeance.
Not enjoying this ageing malarkey one little bit.
Title: Re: Feel like #£%&
Post by: Limpy on May 03, 2013, 09:50:02 AM
Sorry you are feeling bad CG.

I agree with you about Amitryptiline, it's not helped me with pain.
However, it was helpful in getting to sleep.

Good luck with the GP
Title: Re: Feel like #£%&
Post by: angelindskiexx on May 03, 2013, 09:51:09 AM
Hi cubagirl,
A few years ago I suffered intense aches and pains - I thought at one time I'd got some kind of arthritis or bone cancer, it was that bad. I could hardly move to get out of bed in the morning.  I was so stiff. Eventually I started doing gentle exercises - just simple stretches which made a difference and relieved some of the pain.  I also took Ibruprofen and  bathed in epsom salts - instant relief for me.  These symptoms would come and go over a period of two years -  Strangely enough I'm getting what I can only describe as painful tendons and odd little shooting pains today - haven't had anything like this for awhile, but I suspect it's a little dip in my hormone levels and will go away once the hormones have settled again.  Make sure you have your thyroid and your Vit D levels checked because thyroid problems and low levels of Vit D can cause the symptoms that you're describing.

Feel better soon. x

Jess.
Title: Re: Feel like #£%&
Post by: ellie on May 03, 2013, 10:02:15 AM
Cubagirl have you been checked for fybromilgia  ? Jus a thought.
Title: Re: Feel like #£%&
Post by: littleminnie on May 03, 2013, 10:13:50 AM
Sorry you are not feeling to good. Until you find out what it is can't you get some stronger painkillers. Which ones do you take?
Also, has it gone worse since you reduced your HRT?
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Title: Re: Feel like #£%&
Post by: Joyce on May 03, 2013, 10:31:04 AM
Not got worse since reducing HRT, pretty much the same.  I was going to wait to see gynae consultant in a couple of months, but can't cope with pain any longer. Just hope GP takes me seriously as fed up having to explain similar symptoms over & over.  If she mentions depression.......  :bang: I'm fed up feeling like this, not depressed!!!
Not been checked for fibromyalgia, but was beginning to think along those lines myself.
Title: Re: Feel like #£%&
Post by: ellie on May 03, 2013, 10:38:37 AM
Where is the pain, or is it general pain.....
Title: Re: Feel like #£%&
Post by: CLKD on May 03, 2013, 11:06:10 AM
chronic pain is awful  :hug:
Title: Re: Feel like #£%&
Post by: Joyce on May 03, 2013, 12:10:31 PM
Pain is from my shoulders to my bum cheeks. Bum feels like I've been kicked by a horse. Very stiff everywhere too even my hands. It's like flu except no other flu symptoms.
Title: Re: Feel like #£%&
Post by: Greyhoundgal on May 03, 2013, 12:13:27 PM
Hope you get a good result with your GP later.  Nothing worse than feeling like that, especially over a long weekend!

 :hug:
Title: Re: Feel like #£%&
Post by: Trey on May 03, 2013, 12:34:25 PM
Is it something to do with those growths on your back?  Also, fibro is fairly easy to sort of diagnose if the doctor is smart.  Good luck with that hope.
I hate it when depression is used as what we call a 'cop out' - an excuse for anything the doctor can't diagnose.

Sure hope you get some answers and relief.

Do you take omega3 - very good for inflammation.  Agree on vitamin D3, too.
Title: Re: Feel like #£%&
Post by: honeybun on May 03, 2013, 12:35:43 PM
Sorry it's got so bad CG.

Maybe get checked for fibromyalgia. It's no fun feeling rubbish all the time.

I think we are all inclined to blame too much on meno when it could be something else.
I don't think that getting older should mean pain. There has to be something else going on.
I hope you get to the bottom of things.

Let us know.

Honeyb
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Title: Re: Feel like #£%&
Post by: catlady on May 03, 2013, 12:36:53 PM
Hi Cubagirl.
It sounds like fibromyalgia.     Might be worth seeing a rheumatologist for a diagnosis
if it is.

Good luck and let us know how you get on

Ann x
Title: Re: Feel like #£%&
Post by: Meggie on May 03, 2013, 12:47:54 PM
Hi Cubagirl

Sorry to hear that you are feeling so rough - push for a diagnosis, pain is so draining.  My late Father used to have fibro-myalgia - not a pleasant condition but once appropriate treatment was prescribed he was much more comfortable.

Good Luck

Meggie
Title: Re: Feel like #£%&
Post by: ellie on May 03, 2013, 12:52:54 PM
My Fybro started at the same time I started being very sick because I had a twisted stomach.......the two things were not related and the stomach specialist kept saying........you are not feeling tired and flu like because of your stomach ...At the time I didn't believe him. But of course the overwhelming tired feeling continued after my operation.....I was then sent to see a rheumatologist who diagnosed Fybro.  I can go a few weeks feeling OK and then the metalic taste in my mouth starts, plus I get sores in the corner of my mouth and feel sick etc......So I can tell when it's going to start up again.....A truly awful illness..
Title: Re: Feel like #£%&
Post by: Joyce on May 03, 2013, 04:05:48 PM
Well she was about as much help as a chocolate teapot. Hadn't a Scooby. Only ran her fingers down my spine and tested reflexes, then said must be muscular spasms and that I could get physio. I told her physio not much use as last time by the time I got an appointment, pain had gone. Then she said it's common to get achy during the menopause. End of story. Gave me prescription for co-codamol and and Naproxen.  So guess I will just have to ask gynae consultant after all.  Here's hoping pain killers work.
Title: Re: Feel like #£%&
Post by: littleminnie on May 03, 2013, 04:57:15 PM
Co-codamol are very effective. I think doctors blame everything on the menopause.
Title: Re: Feel like #£%&
Post by: Joyce on May 03, 2013, 05:18:33 PM
Going to use the cocodamol, not sure about the Naproxen having read the leaflet. Can cause stomach to bleed along with other nasties.  If it is really bad I will give them a go.
Title: Re: Feel like #£%&
Post by: CLKD on May 03, 2013, 05:38:20 PM
 :o Co-codamol-type meds have me on the bathroom floor after the 3rd tablet  :-\ - I stick to Ibuprofen .........
Title: Re: Feel like #£%&
Post by: Joyce on May 03, 2013, 07:00:27 PM
It's actually Solpadol I've been given. Not sure if that's just another name for cocodamol. Took 2 at testime and they have sure kicked in.
Title: Re: Feel like #£%&
Post by: honeybun on May 03, 2013, 07:07:42 PM
Codeine can cause constipation. With me they just make me feel ill.

Did you ask about fibro.

Does not seem you are getting to the bottom of things. Is this your regular GP or one that you could get to see today. You maybe need to go back to someone you can talk things through with.
You need some answers not just pills.

I am frustrated on your behalf. It's not good enough.


Honeyb
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Title: Re: Feel like #£%&
Post by: CLKD on May 03, 2013, 08:31:06 PM
So long as in the short term the pain is controlled: did you make a further appt.?
Title: Re: Feel like #£%&
Post by: Joyce on May 03, 2013, 09:23:39 PM
If it's like the previous times I've had this pain, it has probably reached its peak, hopefully.  She warned me about getting constipated. Will worry about that later, got dulcoease at the ready. Hoping to only take strong painkillers at night and will try and cope with paracetamol and ibuprofen during the day.
I never asked about fibro. I asked if increasing HRT would help and that's when she said that meno ladies get aches and pains. Doubt she would have appreciated me saying much else.  Never seen her before, but she was only GP I could see at short notice. She just sat there looking like she hadn't a blooming clue.
Title: Re: Feel like #£%&
Post by: Trey on May 04, 2013, 12:43:04 AM
Damn!  >:(
Title: Re: Feel like #£%&
Post by: littleminnie on May 04, 2013, 08:34:11 AM
How have you gone on CG?
Title: Re: Feel like #£%&
Post by: Babylon Burning on May 04, 2013, 09:04:14 AM
God save us from useless GP's!  Hope you feel better soon.
Title: Re: Feel like #£%&
Post by: rosie c on May 04, 2013, 09:16:04 AM
I have  fibro ... and it does sort of sound like it, cubagirl. I now go to a local support group... all ladies, all middle age, and the stories that I have heard about how they all eventually ended up with a correct diagnosis.... are just short of horrific. Bog standard pain killers dont usually touch fibro pain or the stiffness, physio is rubbish... you need a switched on Gp or an appointment with a rhemy. It may not be fibro... but you need some answers so you can go forward.
Title: Re: Feel like #£%&
Post by: honeybun on May 04, 2013, 09:40:53 AM
Go back and see someone else.

Please don't be fobbed off. It's really not good enough to try and live in pain all the time.

Honeyb
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Title: Re: Feel like #£%&
Post by: Joyce on May 04, 2013, 11:48:19 AM
Coped, just, on the Solpadol during the night. Did wake with pain and just took paracetamol which of course was useless and ended up with 2 hot water bottles on different parts of my body, which certainly helped. Really stiff today though. Pains radiate round to my front ribcage when it's really bad. She said this was quite common with muscle spasms. I hate being a nuisance and feel like that every time I go to GP, especially when GP I'm registered under passed comment once on number of times I visit the surgery.
I'm still too scared to use the Naproxen, which is an anti-inflammatory. It says it can cause bleeding of stomach lining. I tried to ask chemist about it today, but she was way too busy.
Title: Re: Feel like #£%&
Post by: catlady on May 04, 2013, 12:03:43 PM
Hi
If you do use an anti-inflammatory and it helps, it's NOT fibro.
Fibro isn't caused by inflammation.

I can't take Solpodol, make me feel really ill and was sick as a dog! 

Ann x
Title: Re: Feel like #£%&
Post by: Trey on May 04, 2013, 12:12:40 PM
Naproxen, like all NSAIDS, can cause bleeding. Celebrex, Advil all the same.  If taken with food, a must, or Tagamet, less chance of bleeding.  But if it is fibro probably won't help.  Omega 3 and D3 good antiinflammatories and might help.  My fibro is more of a deep burning pain, rather than muscle spasm feeling.  It won't show on scans or even bloods, except maybe inflammatory indicators.  Not sure, but a rheumatologist would be a very good choice.  Why do doctors have the gall to think we want to see them out of anything but real pain.  What a lack of compassion.

I'm so sorry you are having this CB and I imagine it is set off by your stress, but it is physical!!
Title: Re: Feel like #£%&
Post by: Joyce on May 04, 2013, 12:34:26 PM
Time will tell I suppose. Though not sure why I get it every so often. It's not like I have to do much gardening these days as it's all landscaped, pain just builds up over a few weeks, goes, then builds again. Maybe I'm just an oddball.
Title: Re: Feel like #£%&
Post by: Elena on May 04, 2013, 12:56:33 PM
So sorry to hear this CB, bloody useless GP!  >:(

If you take anything like naproxen you are usually given something like lansoprazole to counteract any stomach irritation.

Shame you didnt get to ask about the fibro possibility.  I would definitely be making another appt, with a different GP.
Title: Re: Feel like #£%&
Post by: Trey on May 04, 2013, 02:42:40 PM
How is your little Grand daughter?  Hope she is becoming more stable.  My son was insulin dependent diabetic at 36 months and I had so much worry as to whether he was a sleep or too low glucose. It's so difficult and I feel so for all of you.  Remember though, he is now 44 and traveling the world in his job.