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Title: 'smart' motorways
Post by: CLKD on October 19, 2020, 05:22:54 PM
Well, another 'good' idea.  Not.  M1 is being altered which means devastation of countryside: trees felled, ground dug up, queues which means more fumes from vehicles.  Then they are simply not a safe means of travel, no hard shoulder and pull offs occasionally.  Already 10 people have died as a result of people breaking down with no where of safety.

 :bang: :bang: :bang:  :sigh:
Title: Re: 'smart' motorways
Post by: Ju Ju on October 19, 2020, 05:30:51 PM
Been through the agonies of motorways being made ‘smart’, which apparently has caused some accidents due to no hard shoulder. Made going to my parents even more painful. Finished now and roadworks moved to another motorway that I use. It takes years to do.
Title: Re: 'smart' motorways
Post by: CLKD on October 19, 2020, 05:51:19 PM
I think they should be stopped.  It's known that people have been killed on the Hard Shoulder so why remove that chance of keeping off the main carriageway  :-\. I can't see the reasoning ..............
Title: Re: 'smart' motorways
Post by: CLKD on November 11, 2020, 10:02:14 AM
Despite deaths due to lack of escape routes 9 more motorways will be affected ..........
Title: Re: 'smart' motorways
Post by: jaypo on November 11, 2020, 02:45:28 PM
It makes NO SENSE at all,we saw someone broken down about a mile from the lay-by thing,also,won't it slow emergency service vehicles down,who used to use the hard shoulder?
Title: Re: 'smart' motorways
Post by: CLKD on November 11, 2020, 03:59:41 PM
Probably, hadn't thought of that aspect. 
Title: Re: 'smart' motorways
Post by: Ms Peak on November 11, 2020, 09:03:27 PM
Hi there.
The M1 in Leicester is already 4 lanes both side :( my close friend and I have sons who are HGV mechanics on break down rotation. Her boy works the M1 all the time in that area.. Cra who decides smart is the way forward....
Thank goodness my younger lad works east anglia....no motorways
Ms Peaks
Title: Re: 'smart' motorways
Post by: Taz2 on November 11, 2020, 09:15:39 PM
Apart from the M11 and the M25 Ms Peaks!

I lost a close friend due to the minibus she was driving on the M4 losing power with nowhere to go. I'm sure a hard shoulder would have saved three lives that day. Smart motorways don't sound very smart to me.

Taz x 
Title: Re: 'smart' motorways
Post by: CLKD on November 11, 2020, 10:02:51 PM
Sorry to learn that Taz2.  So un-necessary.  I have told DH that we must avoid these monstrosities ....... I'd rather take a longer journey !!
Title: Re: 'smart' motorways
Post by: Ms Peak on November 11, 2020, 10:11:18 PM
Hi Taz.
I mentioned M1 as it was in the first post.
I hate the idea of smart motorways.
Lives should never be compromised for the sake of traffic flow.... Safety first.
So sorry to know you lost a friend on one.
I hope to goodness my boy stays working in the East when we have none.... Fixing HGVs on a smart motorway is too too dangerous....!!!
Ms Peaks
Title: Re: 'smart' motorways
Post by: jaypo on November 12, 2020, 08:06:23 AM
Oh Taz,that's awful,so so sad,what makes it worse is that she COULD have survived  :'( :'(
In this country it wouldn't matter if we had 8 lanes either side,you'll always get idiots who sit in the outside lane or the ones who sit in a middle lane when there's absolutely no traffic anywhere   >:(
Title: Re: 'smart' motorways
Post by: CLKD on November 12, 2020, 09:37:29 AM
So what can we do, or is it like HS2 a lost cause  :'(
Title: Re: 'smart' motorways
Post by: jaypo on November 12, 2020, 01:11:56 PM
Do as Michael Mckintyre,if they're in the middle lane,overtake them and then when in front of them spray your window washers,then go to the inside lane and then overtake them again,just circle them basically and spray them with water every time  ;D ;D
When there's been enough accidents (sadly) wait and see,they'll revert back to how it was,isn't that what ALWAYS happens  >:(
Title: Re: 'smart' motorways
Post by: Taz2 on November 12, 2020, 04:00:11 PM
Oh Taz,that's awful,so so sad,what makes it worse is that she COULD have survived  :'( :'(
In this country it wouldn't matter if we had 8 lanes either side,you'll always get idiots who sit in the outside lane or the ones who sit in a middle lane when there's absolutely no traffic anywhere   >:(

Yes if she'd had the hard shoulder to pull on to they would have been safe. The second lorry driver behind didn't have time to react when her speed dropped from 60 to virtual standstill.

A work colleague of mine was fined for being in the middle lane when the inside lane was empty.

Taz x
Title: Re: 'smart' motorways
Post by: jaypo on November 12, 2020, 06:46:26 PM
We have a large RV and my OH doesn't really like going into the outside lane but he won't undertake and these idiots just sit there in the middle lane (sorry Taz's workmate  ;D ) so he has no option but to use the outside lane,it's even worse for lorry drivers as they're NOT allowed to use the outer lane so they just have to sit patiently behind these people  >:( >:( 
Rant over  ;D
Title: Re: 'smart' motorways
Post by: CLKD on November 12, 2020, 07:01:42 PM
..... and when they are going up a slope  >:(
Title: Re: 'smart' motorways
Post by: Taz2 on November 12, 2020, 07:56:44 PM
I've found that things have improved since it was made illegal. The undercover cars around here (M4/M3/M25) are very active. My only gripe with being in the inside lane is the ruts which cause tramlining when I'm driving my car.

Taz x
Title: Re: 'smart' motorways
Post by: CLKD on November 12, 2020, 08:00:06 PM
Something that should be addressed during lockdown?

The roads in my area are dreadful.  Street Doctor no longer 'works' ......... patching doesn't last for long.  I'm surprised that a Solicitor hasn't taken on the local councils to bring up the point how many vehicles are damaged due to 3rd World road surfaces.  Dreadful for cyclists too!
Title: Re: 'smart' motorways
Post by: CLKD on January 12, 2022, 06:21:12 PM
Tn goodness someone has at last seen sense.   All work is going to be halted until more information is collected.   15 have already been killed and a Judge has said that the lack of a hard shoulder is implemented in at least 1 accident.  So who will stand Trial?
Title: Re: 'smart' motorways
Post by: jaypo on January 12, 2022, 07:39:08 PM
Yes but does that mean the 50mph signs will stay put? The M4 & 5 are ridiculous with their 50MPH signs,it adds such a long time on to your travel time,especially if like us,your on a 6 hour drive. Yet again,another waste of tax payers money on a STUPID idea,didn't EVERYONE say when they started these "smart" motorways what a terrible idea it was?
Title: Re: 'smart' motorways
Post by: CLKD on January 12, 2022, 08:31:03 PM
50mph does save fuel.  Apparently  ::)
Title: Re: 'smart' motorways
Post by: jaypo on January 12, 2022, 09:48:20 PM
It may do but it's way too slow these days,especially long haul drives  :(
Title: Re: 'smart' motorways
Post by: CLKD on January 13, 2022, 09:07:55 AM
As well as through road works when there isn't a work force?
Title: Re: 'smart' motorways
Post by: jaypo on January 13, 2022, 04:13:01 PM
That's what it was like today,miles and miles of cones,not a human in site but 50mph  >:(