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Menopause Discussion => All things menopause => Topic started by: Misty22 on February 26, 2017, 08:20:45 PM

Title: Unsympathetic GP
Post by: Misty22 on February 26, 2017, 08:20:45 PM
Hi ladies,having a terrible time finding the right HRT for me.I'm peri menopausal and have tried prempack c,evorel 50 sequi,all gave me terrible headaches when taking the progesterone tablets.I then tried femoston 1/10 but my symptoms came back and finally femoston2/10 which I thought I'd found the right one,I felt wonderful for 5 months then started to feel sick and dizzy on the oestrogen tablets! Went back to my GP Friday with lots of information from this wonderful website,and she told me to stop reading such rubbish gave me a prescription for ellest duet 1 mg and told me there's not much else she can do for me, I left in tears.I have given each HRT 6 months to work.Please help is it time to go private?im 44 have no social life just too tired
Title: Re: Unsympathetic GP
Post by: Dandelion on February 26, 2017, 08:44:46 PM
Hi ladies,having a terrible time finding the right HRT for me.I'm peri menopausal and have tried prempack c,evorel 50 sequi,all gave me terrible headaches when taking the progesterone tablets.I then tried femoston 1/10 but my symptoms came back and finally femoston2/10 which I thought I'd found the right one,I felt wonderful for 5 months then started to feel sick and dizzy on the oestrogen tablets! Went back to my GP Friday with lots of information from this wonderful website,and she told me to stop reading such rubbish gave me a prescription for ellest duet 1 mg and told me there's not much else she can do for me, I left in tears.I have given each HRT 6 months to work.Please help is it time to go private?im 44 have no social life just too tired
I had trouble a few years ago, getting my GP's to give me evorel patches and utrogestan.
I tried femoston, went straight through me due to perimenopause based IBS, problem went along with flushes as soon as I got on right patch.
GP was reluctant to give me patches as I was getting migraine auras (due to an antidepressant I have now weaned off, no more migraine auras since )
For a small fee, it was £25 back then in 2014, you can email Dr Heather Currie.
Dr Currie emailed me back, saying patches were fine for me.
I had a job getting any of the GP's to read it but one nice GP read it, I explained it was from an NHS consultant gynaecologist at Royal Dumfries and Galloway hosp, and I got my wishes in the end, so, if you don't mind paying a fee and speaking to Dr Currie, that's what helped me.
Title: Re: Unsympathetic GP
Post by: CLKD on February 26, 2017, 09:09:19 PM
Your GP is way behind the times.  If she said as much to me I would ask Dr Currie on here what should be done about her comments.  GPs are paid by the Tax payer to treat symptoms, not be dismissive of proven medicines.  It's often about money [getting to the end of the UK Financial Year  >:(] and many still don't like patients reading the internet and challenging their set ideas.

Change your GP.  It really isn't worth your while to continue with someone who has attitude!  Many ladies have problems with progetesterone part of the HRT cycle.   Tell us more about your GP Surgery, is there a Nurse Practitioner or other GPs?  You could ask for an appt. with a menopause clinic or gynaecologist if your GP is sniffy, however, there's no guarantee that even with a Consultant's backing that a Surgery will pay out for treatment if they don't believe it is worth spending on!
Title: Re: Unsympathetic GP
Post by: Misty22 on February 27, 2017, 04:52:15 AM
Thank you both for your replies,I think I will email Dr Currie and see what she suggests.Im afraid the other GP is much the same in the practice and living in a small town there is no other option x
Title: Re: Unsympathetic GP
Post by: Evelyn63 on February 27, 2017, 07:42:49 AM
I do empathise with you Misty.  I am fortunate that my GP suggested to me rather than the other way round, but I have known friends in similar situation to you, and when they brought copies of the nice guidelines were told that " They are guidelines only" and basically the doctor was under no obligation to follow them !  Eventually she found a more sympathetic GP but it was all extra stress on top of the stress if you know what I mean.

I hope emailing Dr Currie will help the situation , but its difficult especially in a small practice where you haven't much option.  Hopefully by going down this route the doctor will realise you are doing your bit and its up to her to at least listen and give you a sympathetic ear! 
Title: Re: Unsympathetic GP
Post by: Misty22 on February 27, 2017, 09:06:43 AM
Thank you Evelyn63,it's so difficult you just get the feeling that you are wasting their time!I keep apologising,but just want to feel normal again!I do think it's time to go private though,so if any of you ladies have any suggestions who I should see,I do live in the Lincolnshire area but would travel,thanks x
Title: Re: Unsympathetic GP
Post by: Maryjane on February 27, 2017, 09:09:31 AM
Afraid why so many through desperation have to go private .

I no we shouldn't have to , but when your backs up against the wall and you feel like you are going mad , it is the only option for many of us.
Title: Re: Unsympathetic GP
Post by: Misty22 on February 27, 2017, 09:19:50 AM
At the moment I would pay anything just to feel human!Im self employed and can't have time off,everyday is such a struggle
Title: Re: Unsympathetic GP
Post by: Dee46 on February 27, 2017, 12:27:10 PM
Misty 22 I was the same my doctor would only prescribe antidepressants for the anxiety I had all of a sudden got, after my research on this site I went armed with reasons for hrt & that I had never suffered anxiety or depression in my life & that it was hormonal, I was prescribed Femoston 1/10 & then 2/10 & it did nothing for me & my digestive system has suffered, as a last resort I went private 4 weeks ago & now on the gel & utrogestan, I shouldn't have to pay for this on top of working but I was getting desperate for someone to understand I am not going mad, I still have a long way to go before I feel better but I have had a rough time with Gp's not listening to me & also telling me not to believe these chit chat websites, without this website I would have not known what was happening to me, I also want to feel human again like you & not like I am scared of my own shaddow!  :( . Are there any private consultant in Lincolnshire? I used Specialist list at the top of this page to find one.
Title: Re: Unsympathetic GP
Post by: Mary G on February 27, 2017, 03:05:05 PM
Misty22, I would have no hesitation in recommending private treatment if you can afford it.  It cost me £300 but it was the best £300 I have ever spent and a relatively small amount of money considering it changed my life.  I had lousy service from my GP who knows nothing about HRT so I didn't have the luxury of choice, I had to go privately but I am very glad I did. 

I had been on the wrong type of HRT at the wrong dose for far too long but I finally reached breakthrough when I sought help privately and was prescribed Oestrogel and very low dose Utrogestan.  I went to Professor Studd who was brilliant but there are other menopause specialists like Dr Nick Panay.  I am sure other members will be along with their recommendations.  You might be able to have a telephone consultation.

It's your life and your time so don't hang around for too long, make that appointment!

Good luck.
Title: Re: Unsympathetic GP
Post by: CLKD on February 27, 2017, 03:10:07 PM
These out-dated GPs are bordering on the negligent though  :-[ ...... there is so much info out there about the various medical conditions - I wonder if men get fobbed off?

How far away are you from the next GP Practice?
Title: Re: Unsympathetic GP
Post by: babyjane on February 27, 2017, 03:48:57 PM
You could be forgiven for suspecting that by being so ignorant of menopause issues these GPs are driving patients into the private sector and so saving the NHS the cost of diagnoses and treatments.  Not that I am paranoid or anything  ::). 

I can't believe that such things go on, I am truly shocked at the lack of care in some areas  :(
Title: Re: Unsympathetic GP
Post by: CLKD on February 27, 2017, 04:03:24 PM
Especially as this time of Life should be treated with sympathy, a listening ear and treatment  :beat: ........ at a time when a lady requires support and treatment to ease symptoms which we know can in itself, be Trial and Error  :sigh:

Maybe the UK needs Representatives to visit each Surgical Practice with up-date information as Reps used to do years ago when new medicines were approved ........
Title: Re: Unsympathetic GP
Post by: Misty22 on February 27, 2017, 05:03:35 PM
Thank you ladies, your messages have made me feel better,and to know I'm not the only one!You would think a lady GP would be a little more sympathetic wouldn't you?The next nearest GP practice is 7 miles away,I have phoned to asked if I could go there but have been refused.                       
Thank you Mary G,I think I may phone Professor Studd,will have to travel anyway have found nobody round my area
Title: Re: Unsympathetic GP
Post by: babyjane on February 27, 2017, 05:06:22 PM
You would think a lady GP would be a little more sympathetic wouldn't you?

 >:(  Her turn will come
Title: Re: Unsympathetic GP
Post by: CLKD on February 27, 2017, 05:35:30 PM
But we won't know will we  :sigh:  ....... do give Prof Studd or Nick Paney a try and let us know!
Title: Re: Unsympathetic GP
Post by: Misty22 on February 27, 2017, 06:14:50 PM
Thank you so much!Will keep you posted 
Title: Re: Unsympathetic GP
Post by: Maryjane on February 27, 2017, 06:22:40 PM
Also Miss Anne Henderson is excellent very much for " The Women" .

London same area as Prof Studd and Mr Panay.
Title: Re: Unsympathetic GP
Post by: Misty22 on February 27, 2017, 06:45:24 PM
Do you know how much it costs for a consultation Mary Jane?
Title: Re: Unsympathetic GP
Post by: Maryjane on February 27, 2017, 06:47:23 PM
All three are about the same £300.00 ish.

I have recommended two others to see her , and they were very impressed.

If you have VA she likes the estring .
Title: Re: Unsympathetic GP
Post by: Maryjane on February 27, 2017, 06:50:04 PM
You can send an email ahead of time with your problems/ history sonyou make the most of your consultation , my GP was very impressed with the letter that she sent her.

I have complex  pain issues , my GP is very good , but is pleased I am under such a specialist.
Title: Re: Unsympathetic GP
Post by: Misty22 on February 27, 2017, 07:05:10 PM
Ok thanks.Never gone private before, do I have to contact my GP to let her know?Or do I just go ahead and book an appointment with Miss Henderson?
Title: Re: Unsympathetic GP
Post by: CLKD on February 27, 2017, 07:09:05 PM
Ring the Secretary to find out their protocol.  Years ago a Consultant wouldn't accept a patient ringing for an appt. without a referral letter because some patients won't give a true medical history which could impact on treatment suggestions. 
Title: Re: Unsympathetic GP
Post by: Misty22 on February 27, 2017, 07:19:47 PM
That makes sense I suppose,thanks!
Title: Re: Unsympathetic GP
Post by: Maryjane on February 27, 2017, 07:22:12 PM
Self referral . Most of the London specialists are .
Title: Re: Unsympathetic GP
Post by: CLKD on February 27, 2017, 07:24:05 PM
 :thankyou:
Title: Re: Unsympathetic GP
Post by: Maryjane on February 27, 2017, 07:30:26 PM
Miss Henderson's PA , said we no more about ourselves than our GPs.

SO TRUE.
Title: Re: Unsympathetic GP
Post by: Misty22 on February 27, 2017, 08:07:20 PM
I totally agree with that!