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Menopause Discussion => Other Health Discussion => Topic started by: Tc on March 25, 2019, 10:38:57 AM
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I've just come back from the gp and I'm in shock.
I only went to get my scrip for increased dose estradot. But I mentioned to her that I think my upper tummy is swollen and feels uncomfortable. She examined Me and said it didnt feel right.
I also said is I've been feeling breathless and she said it might well be be the "mass" pressing upwards. MASS. Why did she have to use that word.
So now I'm on the urgent scan 2 week referral hell again.
I dont think I can tell anyone. I spent most of last year going through an ovarian cancer scare. 5 years ago I ended up in oncology for suspected cancerous lump in my neck. After it was removed it was clear. Same with my ovaries. Can t help thinking my luck might've run out this time.
I'm in shock.
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Oh Tc. Not what you were expecting your day to turn out like. I really do wish they would choose their words more carefully. Would have been better to say “It's probably nothing to worry about but it won't hurt to check it outâ€. Try to be positive. All the other times you have been clear. We are all here to keep you company whilst you wait for your appointment. Keep us updated on when it will be xx
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Thank you for your support herdwick.x
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Tc, breath.
I'll respond properly later ...
But keep calm. Rest. Eat well.
Watch a happy film. Cuddle the cat.
xx
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TY pants. X
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It's a good thing you mentioned it, even though you didn't expect that reply :-\
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Thinking of you Tc.
Try not to worry ( which is probably a very silly thing for me to say ) . Xx
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Yes too hoots. I've had so many health probs lately I thought. maybe it was a side effect of meds or meno or my operation. When your body goes through so many changes in a short space of time it's hard to separate symptoms.
At least Its going to be sorted now.
Thank youx
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Thanks dottyx
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No wonder you are shocked. Did your GP expand on what she thought it might be and which Dept have you been referred to?
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Clkd. I was so shocked I only said "it's not just fat then? She said it could be your liver or your stomach. I've got colonoscopy in April and she still wants me to get that but she said this is higher up.which is where the swelling is.
She has sent me for urgent scan at moment hasnt referred anywhere as depending what it is it will be different departments.
Of course my minds working overtime now. ???
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Of course it is. You've been through a lot in the last few years with your wife being ill, no doubt your brain is whirring along those lines ........ you have us !
Can you take a cancellation for the scan, maybe ring up the Dept and see if they can call you if someone doesn't turn up?
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Thank you so much Clkd.
I will call the radiology dept in a couple days and see what the score is. I just rang my sis and told her. I wasnt going to but I'm glad I did.xxx
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Oh Tc. Not what you were expecting your day to turn out like. I really do wish they would choose their words more carefully. Would have been better to say “It's probably nothing to worry about but it won't hurt to check it outâ€. Try to be positive. All the other times you have been clear. We are all here to keep you company whilst you wait for your appointment. Keep us updated on when it will be xx
I tend to be suspicious even when they say the "probably nothing to worry about..." Hope it does turn out ok.
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I want it straight. With lots of opportunity to ask questions etc.. My Consultant was straight forward and the Oncologist supportive.
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Could it be a Hernia Tc. I know they sometime cause breathlessness.
Also any chance you could opt for a private scan. Expensive but immediate.
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Hi TC...
I was thinking an hernia too..??
I'm so sorry to hear your bad news, BUT, at least now it's going to be checked out,
hopefully, it's nothing to worry about, keep posting TC.....
😘 :bighug:
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Shady. I suppose it could be. . I will check that I'm "in the system" so to speak in a couple of days and ask about waiting times. I wont wait for the 2 weeks to pass.
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Thanks jillydoll.
My wife had a tummy hernia after surgery years ago. It was in upper part but when she coughed it sort of popped out. That doesn't happen with me. But I guess it could still be a hernia. I had that horrible cough for 2 weeks earlier this month so maybe I've strained something.
Thanks for the hugx
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Thanks birdy. .
When I lay on side and sitting down.its Like its pressing up into my ribs. And It's hard.
When I lay on my back it doesnt move. When I look down from standing or laying on my back it just looks weird. I guess deep down I thought it didnt look right for a few weeks but it's got more and more uncomfortable.
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No point telling you not to worry too much is there tc,realistically it probably is nothing to worry about,dr's tend to forget and use all the scary words,can you get another appointment?as at the time you tend not to ask any of the questions to reassure yourself,even a phone consultation.
Will be thinking about you,all the luck in the world tc
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My health anxiety book has a little mantra which I keep going back to.
It boils down to three things.
We always overestimate the likelihood that we have something wrong.
We always overestimate the seriousness of that something wrong.
We always underestimate the ability of ourselves and the medical profession to tackle and resolve any problem.
Yes, you have had a sore area and, yes, the doctor has said it doesn't feel right and needs looking at BUT it doesn't mean the worst case scenario.
My Dad has been very ill in hospital recently. At one stage, we thought he wouldn't come out. I worried myself sick and cried all night but my husband calmly stuck to the “until we are told otherwise, it's okay†approach. He was right not to panic and I wish I could have stayed calm like him. My dad is now home recovering.
I am the worst person for HA but most of us know that it's important and necessary to be calm and not worry, even if we can't practise what we preach!!
I wonder if a return visit to the GP might help? Tell her she has terrified you, ask some more questions. If nothing else, they might be able to get you up the scan list?
Until then, please don't torment yourself. Message anytime xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxccc
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Dearest Tc. What a shock. But I want you to take a few minutes to be proud of yourself for raising it with the Dr today. You could have very easily swept it under the carpet, thinking ... I'll deal with that another day. But you didn't. You raised it. And now there will be action. Pat yourself on the back.
Now. You just need to put one foot in front of the other. Go through the process. Don't think too far ahead.
Catch you tomorrow. N nite. x
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I know very little about hernias so I've just read the section on the NHS website this morning. I'm not a doctor but it does sound like what you are describing Tc.
Hope you got some sleep and can face the day as calmly as you can.
Xxxxxxx
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Thanks jaypo, pants, agata.xx
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Hiya ladies. I got a call this morning to have my scan later this afternoon. It was a cancellation.
So at least that's nice and quick
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:great:
That's really good news.
Best of Luck Tc.
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Let us know how you get on xx
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Hi TC
Sorry to hear that you are going through this, but at least you are getting the scan done quickly.
As all of the other ladies have said, the chances are it's something that's not too serious.
Anyway, good luck for this afternoon, we are all with you in spirit.
Let us know how it goes
Hugs
Jeepers xx
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That's marvellous. No waiting. Please update us later xxx
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Hope you got on okay TC hopefully they will get the results back quickly for you. Keeping you in my thoughts
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Hiya ladies. The radiologist would t say anything dedpite me asking
so 7 to 10 day for the report.
She did say tbo that my doctor had put liver and stomach and ultrasound cant look at stomach so I need to speak my doc tommorow as stomach scan needs separate referral.
Thank you all for thinking of me.xxx
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Hi TC.
How ya feeling ?
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Tc, really pleased you got a scan so quickly. Sorry you have to wait for a report though. If it was a CT, then the images have to be reviewed by someone experienced. If it was an ultrasound, they are pretty good at telling you if they've found something 'interesting' there and then (based on my own experiences).
Hang on in there. Talk your GP and get the 2nd referral for the stomach scan. Remember ... one foot in front of the other.
I hope you are ok this evening.
xx
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Hiya ladies. Thank you for asking. I'm feeling worried. When they stay tight lipped you cant help it. When I had my initial pelvic ultrasound last year the radiologist told me straight away she had found something. And when I had my recent pelvic trans v she told me straight away everything looked fine. So....dont know what to make of this one.
I have been so tired the last week I cant keep my eyes open and keep falling asleep.which is very unusual for me in recent months. it came on suddenly i thought I might be coming down with something but it seems not and I cant seem to shake it.
I think when I speak doc tomoro I will ask for blood count.
Hope you are all as well as can be and send lovexxxx
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Hopefully you will get the second scan quickly meanwhile as pants saidâ€one foot in front of the other†and try to remain positive. We are all sending you good vibes
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Thank you so much ladies. I've been so tired over the last week. I thought I might have a bug coming on. Obvs something is going on. My tummy is realy playing up. Bad wind and indigestion..
I've been on omprazole for over 18 months now. I'm beginning to wonder if it is actually causing me problems. I do know when you come off it you can get a rebound effect so I dont thinkni should just stop it. I think I'll ask the doc. I'm on the call back list about the scan.
Anyway I'm going to have a day in bed. . I cant keep my eyes open anyway. It's a novelty to actually sleep!!!
Love to all xxx
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The fact you have tummy problems does match with having a hernia.
Fingers crossed for you Tc.
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Thanx. Could well be shady and birdy.
. It Seems to be the thoughts of other ladies on here too.
Sorry you're suffering with your IBS. Birdy.
Strangely my anxiety isnt high today. I'm so tired I feel almost sedated so I actually feel relatively quite calm for once. At least at the moment t!!
Xxx
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Hi TC
I hope you get a good rest today, and the calmness stays with you.
We are all thinking of you
Jeepers xx
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Thanks so much. It realy is so amazing to have such support xxxx
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Take it easy TC.
Half the battle is that bloody anxiety isn't it?
Thinking of you babe, try n relax....
Jd 😘 xx
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Thanks sparkle. Sorry to hear you've so many problems.not boring at all . It's very interesting and helpful to hear your experience.
I've been on omprazole over 18 months to 2 years. A few months ago a blood test for something else showed up low b12. . I only had 3 months b12 and folic acid.
You mention magnesium and only today i've just been reading that amongst other things long term use of PPI s can significantly lower magnesium too.
I will ask for a blood test to check my iron and magnesium
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I cant remember if radiologist said MRI or ct for stomach but she definitely said my doc might want to order endoscopy.
it wouldn't have been a bad idea for my doc to actually look into what was causing my persistent acid reflux before now anyway Instead of the just leaving me on omprazole for all this time without an actual diagnosis.
Hiatus hernia.is actually a very real possibility for me too I think. Coincidentally, My grandmothet had it.
May I ask why omprazole didnt agree with you?
Was your hiatus hernia diagnosed by endoscopy?
Why was your gallbladder removed?
Oh dear, sorry for all the questions. Hope you dont mind.
And wind? How can something so harmless cause such pain. And right up into your neck and shoulders too. Ive been doubled over and sweating with it before I discovered windeze. No wonder babies scream their heads off with it!!
Xxxxxx
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Hiya sparkle no I havent. But I've just had call from the on call doc.
She said pancreas kidneys and gallbladder are o.k. she said I have a fatty liver which might have caused the swelling but she said I need to see the original doc to discuss it and being as I've been on the omprazole so long i need to be referred for endoscopy to look at stomach now. I will book appointment with the original doc when they open.
Huge Relief that nothing sinister. But not sure fatty liver is great. Im resisting googling it. I hope it doesnt stop me taking hrt.
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Wow, that is good.
I have fatty liver which was discovered by a scan for something else. It's very common, especially in women our age. Your doc will tell you what to do re diet etc
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Thanks shady. and sparkle. I am so very relieved it didnt show anything g nasty she said my doc had said liver felt swollen on exam so that might be the swelling I can see in upper belly. She said doc will discuss it further.
I had swollen liver once before in my 20s when I had glandular fever and at that time I was diagnosed with Gilbert's disease which is supposedly harmless genetic issue to do with processing bile. I always forget about it tbh. It shows up in blood tests but it's supposed to not cause symptoms.
Do you get any symptoms from fatty liver shady. I'm assuming it's not the cause of my symptoms.
she said my doc will arrange endoscopy after I see her and I've already got colonoscopy for the 9th so hopefully between the two we will get to the bottom of it..no pun intended!
I've got doc appt next week.
Sparkle you must've gone through a very worrying time over your gallbladder.thank goodness it was benign.
I will ask for the blood tests. To see if the long term omprazole is causing deficiency.
Thank you ladies so much for your support.i dont know what I'd do without you all. Xxxxxx
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Thanks sparkle.
That must've been awful. Especially as losing weight is such a red flag to doctors. You must've thought the worst. So glad it's in the past. You are such a kind thoughtful lady.
I will check out SIBO. It sounds interesting thanks.
Xx
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Tc, very pleased to hear from you. My perimenopause journey started with digestive biscuits. For about a year I had a terrible vicious circle with anxiety, belching, stomach pain, diarrhoea, constipation, ear neck throat pain - You name it, all related to digestive problems. I had an endoscopy which looked down my oesophagus and everything was fine but GERD was diagnosed - basically acid reflux. I had no idea how many problems it could cause. I was put on omeprazole and told to stay on it long term. Did not agree with me, mainly due to the headaches that it gave me. My lifesaver was Dr Kaufmann's acid reflux diet. I stumbled across it on Amazon and I stuck to it religiously for three months, after which all my symptoms had gone. Laziness and gluttony made me come off it but a recent very bad bout of acid reflux is making me go back on it. Tc, I can't recommend it enough as a lifestyle change. You don't have to buy the book, you can get the diet online. You have to cut out triggers for reflux but it's not an impossible diet by any means. It's just sensible stuff which we should probably all do but it focuses on particular reflux foods such as onions fizzy drinks etc xxxxxx
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Oh goodness I'm so sorry to laugh but read the start of your post Agatha 😆🤣
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Digestive biscuits. :)
Agata. Thanks that sounds realy good. I will Google it.
I've found it hard to come off omprazole i dont know if it's just symptoms returning or rebound effect.
Great tip. Thank you.xx
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FFS - Digestive issues!!!
Not digestive biscuits!!!!
Although, to be honest, the biscuits probably did cause the issues xx
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😆😂 glad I'm to the only one who does that
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I've had a quick look at the basics of the acid reflux diet. It seems very do-able. Low ph. I notice tomatoes are out and I've had to stop eating tomatoes as they upset my bladder something awful. Same with fruit juice, including cranberry. If it works for acid reflux and might help bladder too then it's definitely worth a try. Xx
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Step away from the digestive biscuit TC..... :rofl:
That made me laff....😂
Hope your ok tonight TC....
Xxx
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Very pleased with your news, All sounds very promising Tc
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Thanks so much herdwick. If only scans and results were always that quick.
Ladies Speaking of bladder. I have my womens physio appointment tommorow. I wasnt going to go with everything going n in the last few days but I ve been waiting months for it so I think I will now. It could be interesting. I will post separate and let you all know what it was like. I know some ladies on here have had it.
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I'm off to make a cuppa. Digestive biscuit anyone?
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Yes, digestive biscuit for me please, definitely ::)
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Yes, digestive biscuit for me please, definitely ::)
😆😂🤣
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Jilly. I'm feeling relieved thank you. Xxx
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Shall we all go back on it and compare notes?
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Good one TC...
I'm pleased for you....xxx
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Ty jilly.x
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Birdy :)
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TC, Hope you don't mind me joining in :). Non alcoholic fatty liver is almost always the result of insulin resistance and a sign of metabolic syndrome - the first step to diabetes, even if you are not overweight and are not yet even 'pre-diabetic'. Falling levels of oestrogen make menopausal women more prone (often resulting in the spare tyre around the middle).
Assuming there are no other causes (some meds such as statins, for example), it is completely reversible by removing high carb foods from the diet, particularly sugar and all grains (think of fois gras - ducks and geese are fattened on grains to produce the fatty liver). Many people find that if they remove these carbs their other digestive issues resolve completely so things that appear as triggers for reflux/ibs/gastritis such as tomatoes (and even what appears to be lactose intolerance) may not cause problems once the sugar/grains are removed.
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I very much welcome you joining in saffy. It's good to hear from you.
Thanks for your informative post. It's great to get help/advice and experience.
high cholesterol runs in my family. My level was o.k last checked as was my sugar level but to be honest I was surprised they were. And they are not likely to stay that way if I dont make some changes especially now I have fatty liver..I do not have a good diet. I eat far too much sugar and bad carbs.
I have downright abused my body over the years with eating disorders, . But you cant get away with it forever without repercussions.
I think an overhaul is needed.
Hope you are well saffy. Thanks again.
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I see we're both up at silly o'clock ;D. I'm still waiting impatiently for the testosterone to kick in ::).
It seems insulin resistance is insidious and often shows up many years before it's detectable by blood sugar levels alone (as much as 30 years). It's almost impossible to get the direct test in this country so HbA1c and an oral glucose tolerance test are used as proxies. HbA1c is the most common and I read yesterday that it misses 73% of cases of diabetes :o :
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2019/03/190323113744.htm (https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2019/03/190323113744.htm)
Personally I wouldn't be concerned about cholesterol (unless it's too low). Higher cholesterol levels are protective, particularly in older women anyway. Triglycerides and HDL are far more important than LDL (hence why they rarely measure them on the NHS ::) ) and the markers will all improve if you fix insulin resistance (with some exceptions - some people are hyper-responders to saturated fat, although it doesn't seem to correlate with poor health outcomes and isn't the cause of fatty liver).
I apologise, I'd forgotten that you mentioned previously that you'd had eating disorders. Although there can be long term implications, I have read so much that reassures me that you can make huge strides towards optimum health through diet at any age. As you can guess, I find the whole area fascinating and have seen my OH's health and attitude to food transformed. Less so for me as menopause has put a bit of a spanner in the works ;D.
Right, I really must try and get some sleep!!
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What interesting posts Saffy.
I have to say I am in agreement with you. Your views on cholesterol, carbs etc. are much the same as mine.
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I read your comments with interest too, Saffy x
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Interesting isnt it shady and agata.
Saffy Yes I couldn't sleep either. Hope you eventually got some zzzz's.
Thank you for the link.
I have bounced between anorexia and bulimia several times. Diets always start off sensibly and healthily and then i get my ED head on and things go very wrong.
Cutting anything out entirely is seen as a no no by the ED clinic particularly carbs. cut carbs. Crave carbs. Binge . Purge.
My teeth have suffered and im sure my digestive system has. My periods stopped on several occasions. The last time for 2 years. Which has to have a long term effect on bone health which is particularly pertinent now I'm in meno. So it wouldn't surprise me if insulin resistance might also be an effect.
When I recovered from it last time I reached a healthy weight but when I was discharged from the clinic i didnt stop there i just kept bingeing. My brain didnt tell me I was full anymore. so now although I'm not bingeing I havent lost that in the last few years and am overweight by about 4 stone.
. My relationship with food is so complex. Im scared of triggering and going too far again. But I do need and want to lose weight and stop problems developing further with liver, diabetes, heart health etc .
My current phychiatrist is an ED specialist. So I think I will mention it at my next appointment maybe I could get some support whilst trying to lose weight.
Hope that's not TMI But it's very comforting to here you say it's never too late.
Hope you ladies have a good day.xxxx
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Yes really interesting. Isn't it a hard job though to completely cut out sugar?
And what happens when you start to feel iffy, like I do when my blood sugar drops.?
When I eat something sugary, I feel better...
Birdy= your funny....😂
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Birdy - look out of your window.
I'm the one going through your bins looking for the McVities.
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AgathaC......fight you for em....😂🤣😂🤣😂
Winner takes all....😂🍪🍪🍪🍪
Bet you looked out too didn't you Birdy, I did, and it wasn't even a post for me!!! 😂😂😂😂
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Jilly. Earing carbs can help stabilise blood sugar.x
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I'm at it now. *eating carbs its catching agata.
:) :)
Dont put carbs in your ears kids👂👂
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Haha.... :rofl: 🍪🚮
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TC, yes I think doing this with an eating disorder can be really hard. I have heard that it can improve people's relationships with food enormously as it has such a profound effect on the hormonal triggers involved (leptin, ghrelin etc.) and after a while carb cravings disappear completely. This hasn't happened for me, I confess but I haven't needed to be quite as strict as those with clear metabolic/inflammatory/gut issues so allow myself the occasional piece of cake or chocolate ::).
Don't worry about the weight aspect of all this. It can distract from the real issue which is to achieve the maximum health you can. I do think you will struggle to get approval for this way of eating from most medics, even without a history of eating disorders. Even if you were dangerously diabetic the standard of care is to spread huge amounts of carbs equally between meals plus numerous snacks plus drugs to deal with the resulting high insulin spikes. The NHS is moving on this 'though, low carb is now offered as an 'option' for diabetics (fairly quietly I think) and some NHS GPs are coming around to the idea (see Dr David Unwin).
I have never told any medic that I do low carb - I just say that I cook only fresh 'real' unprocessed food from scratch, which is what the diet is at the end of the day. If questioned I would baffle them with the concept of gluconeogenesis (the process by which our bodies synthesise all the glucose we need from protein) and tell them to show me the evidence supporting the claim that carbs are essential in the diet (the answer is they're not - only protein and fat are). I would love to do this but no-one has ever given me the opportunity ;D.
Jillydoll, I've found it surprisingly easy and problem-free. Most 'blood sugar' issues that you mention are the result of the constant ups and downs from carb-centred diets and insufficient protein and fat. When you skip the carbs and fill up on protein and fat your glucose levels remain far more steady without the highs and lows. I rarely snack and the only time I get a low is if I eat a carby treat on an empty stomach. I also fast for at least 13 hrs a day with no issues (although I do need three meals, unlike some who can do just one or two).
Perhaps I should join in one of the 'What have you eaten today' threads so you can all laugh at my bizzarely unconventional meals :D.
Birdy, I managed to avoid the foggy head by switching over to the diet quite slowly, adding plenty of salt and drinking lots of water but it seems to be quite common to suffer 'low carb flu' for a couple of weeks.
PS. You should all try and get hold of the McVities Chocolate Digestive Thins. OMG, I ate the whole packet walking around the shops one day ;D.
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So it's very much like the Keto diet Saffy?
Is it? 🙂
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Mcvities thins are delicious...😋
That's why I don't buy em....😄
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Jillydoll, yes it's basically a less strict version of keto. I actually started with Primal (Mark Sissons) and have lowered carbs somewhat since then. Never really aimed for keto but I guess some days my carbs are that low.
Birdy, ah sorry I misunderstood!
Low carb is a very general/broad term - for some it means technically a ketogenic diet. For those with obvious insulin resistance/metabolic issues/gut and weight problems the advice would usually be to ditch all starchy veg, all fruit (except berries) as well as grains (incl. rice, oats etc.). Even too much dairy and certain nuts can mean the carbs are too high, particularly in those who need to be in ketosis. I'm reasonably strict from day to day but not sure I could maintain that all the time :).
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Saffy, I meant insulin resistance causes foggy head.
I think low carb is the way to go.
I eat a lot of fat now, too, and it is virtually impossible to over indulge on protein because it is so filling. Besides, vegetables are carbohydrates.
When I refer to low carb, I mean simple carbs such as pasta, crackers, digestive biscuits. 🙂
Fat is more filling than carbs and you stay full longer. It's not quite the demon it has been made out to be.
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I would love to bring my cortisol down. I didnt know fasting was bad for it. Is that why it's so high in the mornings.?
Also, does anyone know if insulin resistance has any bearing on SHBG levels?
I remember a convo on here about SHBG level possibly being linked to poor absorption which I quite patently have.
This thread is so interesting.
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Eating anything fatty makes me feel soooo sick, and ill.
Too much sugar aswell, come to think of it...🤷♀️
Think I'm stuffed which ever way I go...😁
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Can you not have a glass of milk before bed, would that help with the reflux and also keep you going till breakfast.
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Deirdre. dont know if it's just me but milk makes my reflux worse.shame cos I love it
I used to always take biscuits to bed but since I've been in utrogestan orally and it has to be on an empty stomach I go a long time without eating now. You might've hit on something re the cortisol there sparkle.
I've just had a thought. Maybe it's the utrogestan upsetting my tummy.
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Yes I'm taking it orally.
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Yeah Tc, you might be on to something there....
Have a look on the leaflet to see if it causes upset stomach, my hrt upsets my stomach,
Sooo bad sometimes, then it goes, then back again...I'm almost sure 100% it's the E or the Prog....
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Bloodyhell Birdy.
If I do that I'll blow the roof off the house with my burping.....😂😂😂
I've got enough gas already....😂😂
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She says burping Birdy but we all know what she really does 😳
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Well, and that..😂😂😂
Didn't realise it was public knowledge......🙀🙀😳😳😂😂😂
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I did wonder. Utrogestan and omprazole are the only things I take orally. I have this thing called Gilbert's disease. I actually always forget about it. But it's a blood thing connected to bile. It's supposed to have no symptoms except yellowing skin and eyes but I've never had that. Tg.
I think that's why transdermal is so popular now as it bypasses the liver
Ladies I've had a weird day. Crying one minute laughing the next. ..but..
something has realy made me laugh just now...
Fartydoll. It could be the menopausal version of tiny tears :)
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There could be a new toy in the making😆
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Jill's going to see this,I take no blame,tell her it was that Tc 😆😂
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Haha
Let's call the new toy Menopause barbie. One minute she wants a cuddle and the next she rips your head off with her bare little plastic barbie hands.
I think I might be projecting a bit.
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Comes complete with hormone patch.
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:rofl:
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And she would have VA only she doesnt have a vagina
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Because her gp wouldn't let her have vagifem so she's totally closed up
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And that's why Ken f*cked off with the nanny.
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Poor Ken sleeps in his tin hat because even his breathing is annoying her
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Brilliant
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Little did Ken know the nanny was booked in for a hysterectomy! Bad move Ken! Get your tin hat back out and practise breathing quietly
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It's one for dragons den
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Oi you lot!!!
Whose the new gal? Fartydoll?
How very dare you all.!!!!!
I've been in stitches reading this......💨💨💨💨💨
😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣
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Oops. It wasnt me jillydoll it was birdy ;D
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Night night.....😉😂😂
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Na nite. Jillyxx
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Hi TC
I'm so very pleased to hear that they didn't find anything (well, I know Fatty Liver is not nothing, but not a tumour). I had an endoscopy last year, it wasn't too bad, I even managed without sedation ( I had no -one to bring me home).
Ladies, all of your comments made me smile and laugh, so thank you all very much :thankyou:
Jeepers xx
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Oh yes,that's right it was Birdy Jill 😆
That was brilliant ladies,imagine us lot on a night out?😳🤣
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BIRDY !!
I want a word with you! Oops 💨 ...😂
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And that's just Jill 🤢😆😂
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You ladies are too much!!
Jeepers thank you.. Endoscopy with no sedation. I know you had no choice but wow . You are a strong cookie. Xxxx
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Listen here you lot!
I could bottle my methane up and sell it.!
I'd make a flipping fortune,...........the next big perfume on the market!!!💨💨. :rofl:
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Be useful in a power cut.
It was such a tonic having a little larf on here last night. A night out,? Imagine it we'd be the ones sitting in the corner screeching our heads off and wed all forget about our reflux when the prosecco arrived.
Wouldn't it be funny if we didnt say our names first of all but chatted for a while and then tried to figure out who was who?
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It's funny coz people are never what you imagine are they?obviously Jill and I would be the stunners,you'd know us because of our leather mini skirts and white stilettos 😆😂
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Hahaha I'm sure you're gorgeous,aren't we all?😊👯♂️🦹♀️
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You are all stunning....👻🤡👹👿👽💀
Me? ...I'm like,.......beautiful........I AM.....FARTYDOLL!!! 🧟♀️
Sounds like a superhero! 🤣😂🤣
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Birdy! Stop it.!! :rofl:
I've nearly wet myself, I HAVE wet myself! 💨
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Funny how nearly wet myself always turns into have wet myself these days!!
On that subject i went to my womens physio appointment.i wasnt sure whether post about it cos I've posted a lot this week and didnt want you all to get fed up of the sound of my voice but would you like to hear about it?
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Yeeeesssssssss TC,
Don't be silly, we never get fed up with anyone!
😘😘
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Do you think I should post about it in new topic?
It might help others to hear about it. What do you think?
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Jays not on tonight, she on the 🥂🍷🍹
So she'll be Brahms n list.....🙀😂🤣😂🤣
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Yeah maybe Tc.....go for it.
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TC? Are you there? 😁
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You going to post TC?
Go on, post, we're waiting.....🧐🧐😄
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I've done it.
You didnt think it would take me five minutes did you? I thought my reputation for long winded posts wouldve told you all otherwise :)
Sorry to mention wind.
Just had a thought. If we did all get in a room together nobody would be able to light a match :hotflash:
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I cleaned up the language a bit. What she actually said was "that's utter b*ll*cks"
And "some doctors need a kick up the a*se"
She was a gem
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Haha, you two, TC & Sparkle. Can speak for yourselves!
You'd be able to light a match anywhere near me...
I'm not a :hotflash: arse! 💣💣💣
Thank you! 💨. 😂😂
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We believe you :o
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Good morning Does anyone know a good natural hayfever remedy.
Its realy kicking in and I have normally got ahead of the game with certrazine by now but I havent started as the last thing I want is to dry my tissues out even further particularly eyes and I'm paranoid about making VA worse.
Why does meno have to complicate bloody well everything!!!!
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Tc The local pharmacist recommended Sterimar spray for sinus and allergies to me last year and eye drops for itchy eyes. Both work really well. You can use the spray as often as you want to as it is natural. It is a large can and lasts for ages. Better for me than taking antihistamines as they make my restless leg problems worse (a side effect I wasn't aware of)
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Thanks herdwick. I will speak to pharmasist. Do the eye drops not dry your eyes out? X
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Vaseline up your nose .............. apparently 😳
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Oh oh and another thing jillywilly fartdoll,I was NOT on the 🍷🍹🥂🍸🍾 last night,well I had one but hopefully tonight,anyone fancy a pint round mine'take corks for your butts though,bad enough the dogs doing it 🤢
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Thanks herdwick. I will speak to pharmasist. Do the eye drops not dry your eyes out? X
not for me Tc
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O.k ta.x
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Actually birdy where I am in Essex there is a local honey.
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Thanks herdwick. I will speak to pharmasist. Do the eye drops not dry your eyes out? X
Hi again Tc. Just wanted to let you know I just bought another can of the Sterimar spray and the one I bought today is for Hayfever and allergies
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Herdwick I got the sterimar this morning.
When I can get to the farm shopi will get some local honey. It's a good idea. And i actually like honey so I can eat a big spoonful. Yummy.
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Herdwick I got the sterimar this morning.
When I can get to the farm shopi will get some local honey. It's a good idea. And i actually like honey so I can eat a big spoonful. Yummy.
Hope it helps Tc. Keep us posted
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Hi TC
How are things with you today? Have you heard about your endoscopy yet?
Jeepers xx
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Hi jeepers. Thanks for asking. I've got doctors Friday so will find out then. How are you feeling this evening?
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Why is meno so cruel. My mental symptoms have overshadowed my physical ones so far but of the physical symptoms hair loss and VA/bladder issues seem to bring such an emotional reaction in me
I' was in tears this morning as I am everytime I wash and try to do something with my hair. It makes me feel so sad. And then at my mums I went to get her washing in and fully wet myself. I wasnt wearing a pad and we differ in size so I couldn't borrow a change of clothes. I had to go home even though I'd planned to stay for lunch. More tears as I drove home.
I feel a bit silly saying it as it's not realy something to cry about. I have been trying so hard to be more positive lately but these things realy send my self confidence plummeting.
Maybe I'm just a bit fragile today. Xxx
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Thanks birdy. It helps being able to say how I feel especially being on my own and I do hide a lot of this from my family and friends I'm going to try to start tommorow trying to be positive again. I want to .be able to get up again when it knocks me down. Fight back. I just dont feel strong enough to do that yet.
I have to hope when HRT is right it will help.
Hope you are as o.k as can be tonight birdy. Xxxx
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OH Tc
So sorry to hear that you have been feeling so down. I hope you are feeling a little bit stronger today.
I know what you mean about hiding things from family and friends. But on here you can say anything and we will all be here for you.
There is a song by Norah Jones called "Wake Me Up" and the line "If it were any other day
This wouldn't get the best of me". Be kind to yourself, and when you start to feel stronger, you will fight back, I am sure of it.
Have a peaceful day TC
Love to you
JeepersXX
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Sorry to hear you are struggling Tc. Sending you a big hug. Keep saying......Today will be a better day.....when you feel sad
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Thank you ladies.
I have that nortaJones song.
Love to you all. Xx
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Well I am trying to be more positive today. But I woke up with a chin full of cold sores.
I used to get them really bad and have had shingles on my face several times (despite the myth you can get it more than once) but I havent had then for many years and thought I had "grown out" of it.
another present from meno.!!
Put zovirax on straight away whilst chanting "think positive, think positive"
My body realy is all over the place.xx
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Tc, I don't know if it's relevant but I've leaked ever since I had dd at 42 unless I did regular pelvic floor exercises. Since being on testosterone I haven't, presumably it has improved muscle tone.
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Anna Muller. I dont think its shingles. I always got herpes simplex on my chin never my lips Apparently the nerve it lives in runs through the cheek, lips and chin.
When I had shingles it was diagnosed as herpes zoster. It covered one side of my face from hairline down even in my eyes I had it 3 times. It was horrendous. I was put on acyclovir tablets for months at a time and had post hepatic nerve pain for years.
When I used to get the chin one in the early days before it was treated properly the underlying tissue in my neck would be infected and my chin and neck gland would swell up.
Eventually I was given acyclovir tablets on repeat to always have a store at home to get on top of it quickly
I havent had it for so long I didnt even have any zovirax cream in the house this morning. But hope I've nipped it in the bud and the sores wont appear its just the raised red itchy bumps at moment but as always there is nerve pain with it.
Both zoster and simplex are opportunistic viruses. They strike when immunity is low. So it wouldn't surprise me if that's what's going on.
Thanks so much for your reply. Are you a fellow sufferer? X
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Sheila. Just seen your reply. Very relevant. I'm so glad to hear that. I've got testosterone ready to start. So that's good news thank you x
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Anna Muller. Thank you for your good wishes
I had ovaries nd tubes removed.
It does seem a coincidence that I havent had it for so many years until now.
I have been pretty unwell since the oP though so I'm probably more run down than I have been in years.
The first time I had shingles it came on when I had glandular fever. It realy is an opportunistic little beggar
It happened to your sister too after her op. It realy affects the nerves so my sympathy goes out to her.
Do you think your auto immune issues have been compounded by meno?
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Good luck at the Doctors today TC, thinking of you
:bighug:
Jeepers xx
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I do wonder why the GP didn't send you to the correct depts. for appropriate investigations :-\ >:( ......... GPs should at least know which Dept covers which conditions :bang: :bang: :bang:
Let us know how you get on!
Anyone watch the programme above McVities biscuit manufacturers last night ;D. Miles and miles of ginger nuts ......... and custard creams :sick02: ...... and acres of plastic covering >:( but oh, so interesting ;)
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Thank you jeepers.how kind of you to remember.
The doc is sending me for endoscopy and is doing a stool sample and blood tests she said she wanted to rule out any lumps or masses first with the ultrasound. And she confirmed it was clear apart from fatty liver.i have the colonoscopy she sent me for next week.
I must say when I first saw her she was the only doc in the practice I hadn t seen. I was despairing of them all and about to change practices but she seems very thorough.
She even gave me more vagifem without questioning how I had used it so quick!!
How are you today jeepers?
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Hi TC
You are lucky to have a good female GP, I'm glad you found her. We don't have any female doctors in our practice, changing practice is almost impossible in my area.
Its good that you are getting all your appointments.
I'm feeling a little bit better today. thanks. I got my gynae appointment through for next Weds, so I feel relieved. I even managed to go to BodyPump today. I used to go 2 or 3 times a week, but my anxiety got so out of hand, I was too scared to go.
Jeepers xx
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Im so pleased you are having a better day and managed to get to body pump jeepers and it must be a relief to finally get your appointment through.
Xxxx
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Hiya ladies. I didnt want to start a new thread on it but I know some of you have had colonoscopy I've got mine on Tuesday.
Today I just remembered many moons ago my wife taking a bowel preparation beforehand.
I havent been sent any instructions
I googled it and saw you are supposed to stop ferris tablets 4 days before. So luckily just in time to stop my b12 today but what i read also mentioned bowel preparation.
I can phone them on Monday but is there anything else I need to do in the next 3 days.?
Any advice please?
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:-X ::) .......... let us know what you are supposed to do ?
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You should've definitely been given advice,I had to fast for a day beforehand and drink a prep which makes you empty your entire gut.phone them for sure xx
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Thanks jaypo. I wont eat anthing Monday until I've spoke to them.
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Hi Tc,
I found this about preparing for a colonoscopy:
https://www.guysandstthomas.nhs.uk/resources/patient-information/gi/diet-advice-bowel-prep-colonoscopy.pdf
Hope it helps!
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Jenna. Thank you so much for taking the time to find that for me.
I've been so distracted I completely overlooked that they hadn't sent me any instructions!!.
At least it's not too late.
Very helpful. Thank you.
X
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Hi tc,
I had to take bowel prep before my hysterectomy and discovered a little tip online. To put sudocream around your anus after each bowel movement :o
To prevent any soreness, it worked well for me! ;D
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Hi Tc. Regarding the colonoscopy, have you been issued with the prep to take before the procedure? I know a few family members who have had this done and they also had to follow a special diet for a couple of days beforehand as well. Our local hospital has everyone in for a preassessment with a nurse before they have it done to go through everything as well so I would give the hospital a ring first thing tomorrow to find out. Mind you different hospitals have their own ways of working but it's best just to check.
Countrygirl, it's a flexible sigmoidoscopy where they do the enema only, not the full colonoscopy. You definitely need to take prep for a colonoscopy.
Good luck with it Tc.
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Yes if it's a colonoscopy you definitely need to be cleared out a full day ahead and the special diet for two days and fasting on the final day,bit strange no instruction from hospital,let us know what's what tc xx
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Thank you ladies. They havent sent me anything. I have called and they said they are going to get back to me but the lady who answered said I definitely need a clear out prep tomorrow. I hope i can go and pick it up. The procedure isnt til 4.00 so hopefully I have enough time to follow any instructions tommorow
Thanks Clare, CD , blot and Jay xxx
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Are you definitely having a colonoscopy Tc or is it a flexible sigmoidoscopy? If it's a flexi sig they will be able to do the enema there tomorrow but if it's a colonoscopy you would have had to be taking the prep today and doing the diet so there wouldn't be enough time. I used to work in endoscopy unit (admin).
Let us know how you get on x
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Blot. Its colonoscopy its at 4 PM on Tuesday. So I thought I would be able to do the prep tomoro? I think I'll call them again
Thank you.
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I phoned them and apparently I'm not on the list!! It's an appointment with the specialist to see me first!!! They didnt say that in their text.
It was choose and book. And the form I had to book it said colonoscopy
I feel a right fool now :-\
Anyways. Thanks for all your help. In not unhappy about seeing the specialist first.
Xx
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Aw well. Not to worry. See what the consultant has to say tomorrow. Good luck and take care x
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At least you've not had to cancel anything Tc,because it would've been too late to take your prep as blot said.ner mind,we're all a bit loopy on here😊
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Thanks blot and Jaypo. It seems meno brain has well and truly arrived. :) im working towards fthe full house on the meno symptom checklist!!
Having said that it did say colonoscopy on the referral letter. Excuses excuses I know!!
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Take the letter with you! Make a list to take with you!