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General Discussion => This 'n' That => Topic started by: Pennyfarthing on March 13, 2019, 05:12:46 PM

Title: sanitary pads to be free in schools
Post by: Pennyfarthing on March 13, 2019, 05:12:46 PM
just been reading that the Govt have said that from the next academic years sanitary protection will be free in schools to stop girls missing school due to “period poverty”. 

I cannot believe that parents cannot afford to buy their girls packets of pads which often cost less than a bag of crisps or a chocolate bar. i have been out shopping today and you can get them for less than 50p a packet.  All the supermarkets do them and even places like Wilko and all the drug stores.

When I was young they were really expensive as there  were just two brands so they could name their price.

i see all the village kids getting on and off the bus every day and they all have cans of drink, crisps, sweets and chocolate all of which cost more than a packet of pads. 

i just don't believe that parents can't afford to buy these for their daughters.
Title: Re: sanitary pads to be free in schools
Post by: CLKD on March 13, 2019, 05:23:26 PM
It's hard to believe isn't it, when many have a TV in their rooms, mobiles etc..  When they seem to be out and about every night of the week and at weekends.  Maybe a compensation culture because Mum's are working? 

Sadly though it is happening.  When I take things to the food bank I often take a mix of sanitary protection which is put onto the table for people to pick up.  I wonder whether this is worse in certain cultures. 

At last!  I wrote to Clement Freud's wife many years ago and asked if pads could be free but was told 'no'.  Essential part of a girl's wardrobe, surely? 
Title: Re: sanitary pads to be free in schools
Post by: sheila99 on March 13, 2019, 05:26:00 PM
Completely agree. The parents that claim they have no money to feed the kids still find enough to smoke and drink.  >:(
Title: Re: sanitary pads to be free in schools
Post by: CLKD on March 13, 2019, 05:28:22 PM
How many have anxiety so smoke and drink  :-\

It's a long way from wearing cotton and having to wash it after and hang on the line to blow  :-\
Title: Re: sanitary pads to be free in schools
Post by: Taz2 on March 13, 2019, 05:49:14 PM
I know a reasonable amount about this very sensitive subject and while I agree that some parents may spend out on items we consider luxuries such as crisps, coke, alcohol, cigarettes etc rather than on necessities such as sanitary protection this is not the fault of our fabulous young women - some as young as 10 years old.

To learn about the campaign Google Amika George for more understanding of the reasons behind it.

Taz x
Title: Re: sanitary pads to be free in schools
Post by: CLKD on March 13, 2019, 06:17:50 PM
I did ask our local food bank if they would accept a lot of pads but they lack storage space so when I remember I take some along.  Using some of my fuel allowance ..........
Title: Re: sanitary pads to be free in schools
Post by: CLKD on March 13, 2019, 08:28:03 PM
What's Homebargains when it's up and dressed  :-\.  We have strescos close by and Aldi but nowt 'cheaper'.  Our School had emergency pads but it was easier to put tissues in knickers until home time  :-\ :'(

Girls don't like to ask Mums when it's about putting food on the table.  However, my Mum always had pads available.
Title: Re: sanitary pads to be free in schools
Post by: jillydoll on March 13, 2019, 08:45:33 PM
Homebargains is a big shop that sells everything. CLKD...
They're popping up everywhere.
Some stuff is good, other stuff not so, but I suppose it's what your looking for.
And budget.....😉
Title: Re: sanitary pads to be free in schools
Post by: Countrygirl on March 13, 2019, 09:21:39 PM
The school my daughter goes too it's 50p in the machine on the wall for 1 as the nurse doesn't have any if they come on early, but the school is cashless to stop bullying (thumb print for lunch, topped up online by parents) there is a red box project that offer donated pads etc to schools in other areas x
Title: Re: sanitary pads to be free in schools
Post by: Pennyfarthing on March 13, 2019, 10:31:03 PM
Its crazy when you think about it.  People like my poor old Mum have to BUY their own incontinence  pads (thats on top of having to sell their houses to pay for their care) and they are really expensive yet money can be found to buy pads for young girls whose parents should be providing these.

the elderly are easy targets and undervalued. :'(
Title: Re: sanitary pads to be free in schools
Post by: Pennyfarthing on March 14, 2019, 03:02:44 PM
Also teenage girls being teenage girls, what's the betting they'll reject school pads in favour of the latest 'designer' brands.

Schools should have a supply of free pads for emergencies, that I'd be in favour of.  Free for all - no!

schools have always kept emergency supplies for girls.  Even back in my day you just went to the School secretary or PE teacher if your period arrived early and caught you unawares.

Title: Re: sanitary pads to be free in schools
Post by: CLKD on March 14, 2019, 03:20:00 PM
So did we - if we were brave enough  :-\

But as I stated, in these days of families needing food banks, several girls don't want to worry Mums any more.  With a multi-cultural environment, it may be difficult for some girls to discuss periods even within the family?  There will be a logical reason for this being wheeled out across the UK.  Maybe ask your local food bank or Heads of School in your areas?
Title: Re: sanitary pads to be free in schools
Post by: Krystal on March 16, 2019, 03:07:10 PM
Not all young girls have a mother or female relative they can ask for help about periods, many are being brought up by their lone fathers or grandparents. Despite todays so called enlightened view on life periods are still something not many young girls may feel comfortable with. The Red Box Scheme has recently started in some schools where I live and is supported by the local education bodies. This is particularly important for many young girls where their faith looks on periods as a taboo subject. The general opinion is that once the young person has broken the barrier about periods at school, they talk to their friends at home and the subject to include female hygiene is then naturally progressed to the home environment.

To me the Red Box scheme is a positive promotion of well being for young women. 
Title: Re: sanitary pads to be free in schools
Post by: CLKD on March 16, 2019, 05:44:30 PM
Does that matter though?  It's about dignity.  Also we shouldn't 'go' on what we see leaving the school gates unless we have access to individual parents' bank accounts ......... and see what each family spends on which items aviallbe.  They probably have the modern gadgets and go on holidays abroad .......... sanitary protection should be free anyway!
Title: Re: sanitary pads to be free in schools
Post by: Ju Ju on March 16, 2019, 10:31:20 PM
Sadly the majority of clients who live in the homeless shelter where my DH works have grown up in care, having had horrendous experiences beforehand. Fostering can be the saving of some children, if the foster parents can love them through sometimes appalling behaviour. Not easy and some children are passed from pillar to post. Drugs and alcohol numbs the pain.
Title: Re: sanitary pads to be free in schools
Post by: CLKD on March 17, 2019, 09:13:08 AM
What kind of pads though  :-\.  A well known brand in the 1960s/70s used to stick to me like s**t to a blanket  :'(.  Pulled.  Made me walk funny ....... can't remember if they were cheap.  There are certainly more brands these days as well as different thicknesses.

It is what it is.  For what ever reasons.  Hopefully this will help girls of all backgrounds feel dignified. 

Our Primary School has a breakfast club.  It began years ago on a Friday but is there every morning to help Mums get their kids to school as they drive to work ........ making sure that every child has access to a breakfast.  I read yesterday that some parents are being chased because they haven't paid for school dinners ............
Title: Re: sanitary pads to be free in schools
Post by: CLKD on March 17, 2019, 12:16:39 PM
It was 2 half-crowns a week when I went to Primary School and really wasn't worth it  :whist: well it probably was but it wasn't food as I was used to.  Teacher used to have a register with a tick for those who paid on a Monday morning  ;D

As for children of addicts not attending Grammar School, I find that slightly offensive  .........   my friend went to Grammar School when we left Primary.  Her father was a functioning alcoholic  :'(.  One of 8 children her Mum made sure that the girls had sanitary protection at all times.  She was a stay-at-home Mum though.  As was mine. 

Anything free from the Government of the Day shouldn't be sniffed at  ;).  Our Schools had free uniforms for those children arriving without, so that we all looked the same.  At the end of the Summer Term any clothing not required, i.e. by those of us moving on, was donated into a large box - whether it was every cleaned or laundered I don't remember but at least everyone looked the same.  We never had to pay for books etc., that was the responsibility of the Education Authority.  I can't understand why parents put up with that these days!  Fairs, jumble sales, book stalls - to raise funds  :o for things that should be provided.

Title: Re: sanitary pads to be free in schools
Post by: Kathleen on March 17, 2019, 01:09:07 PM
Hello ladies.


There is no substitute for experience so I'm inclined to believe the people who have seen first hand the lives some young women endure. A packet of crisps on the bus is hardly an extravagance if that's also your breakfast.

As someone once said ‘ the poor will always be with us'. They should've added that you better be thankful that you're not one of them. Yet.

Take care everyone.

K.

Title: Re: sanitary pads to be free in schools
Post by: CLKD on March 17, 2019, 01:48:51 PM
Two pay packets away, apparently  :-\

My Mum gets angry as 'we had to manage, how do they think that ........... '.  She will not accept that people have needs so I no longer tell her about contributing to the food bank.  She's a bit like a teen; 92 and knows it all  :-\.  There is simply no give with her  >:(

Title: Re: sanitary pads to be free in schools
Post by: Pennyfarthing on March 17, 2019, 05:58:30 PM
The poor will indeed always be with us Kathleen so all the more reason to ensure that freebies are specifically targeted and not dished out to thousands who simply don't need them.

I agree with this totally.  It's an absurd idea and just makes people more inclined to hold their hand out for everything. Next  thing will be giving teenage lads razors  and pimple lotion.

I was a High School teacher for 15 years so I do know something about this.  When I was at grammar school most of us came from low waged parents who lived either in council houses or tied cottages.  We had the bare minimum and no extras but my Mum always managed to buy pads for me.  She would have been horrified if I went to school unprepared and would have cut back on something else to provide me with them.