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Menopause Discussion => All things menopause => Topic started by: lor.com on March 24, 2024, 06:57:57 PM

Title: First time vagifem
Post by: lor.com on March 24, 2024, 06:57:57 PM
So it’s my first dose tonight before bed. Any tips? My riding holiday was great. Had a ball. Where should I post a photo or two as promised?
Title: Re: First time vagifem
Post by: Jules on March 24, 2024, 07:02:43 PM
So it’s my first dose tonight before bed. Any tips? My riding holiday was great. Had a ball. Where should I post a photo or two as promised?
I don't insert right up. I put it about  a third up
Title: Re: First time vagifem
Post by: CLKD on March 24, 2024, 07:40:32 PM
It depends on how tender the internal area may feel, I put the 'ovestin' applicator as high up as possible and use a smear around the outer labia.  If initially it's sore then into the outer end of the vagina with a smear then further up as it becomes relaxed. 

It's not as difficult as it might seem ;-). 
Title: Re: First time vagifem
Post by: lor.com on March 24, 2024, 09:12:25 PM
Gross question is there likely to be any leakage?
Title: Re: First time vagifem
Post by: Cara999 on March 24, 2024, 10:14:16 PM
I put mine about half way up. Occasionally I get a little bit of chalky residue the next day. Good luck xx
Title: Re: First time vagifem
Post by: Jules on March 24, 2024, 10:38:52 PM
I changed the position after reading some info on this forum about post meno women and keeping it away from the cervix. A radiographer told me last week that vaginal estrogen products can make the cervical walls lumpy though she didnt say it was a problem, maybe just if you have a scan and they dont know what it is as with me!
Title: Re: First time vagifem
Post by: VioletAquarius on March 25, 2024, 12:10:27 AM
I used to put mine as far up as possible, as that's what the leaflet says, and also my gp.  But i have now changed to about half way up as someone on here mentioned that putting it far up will make it easier for the estrogen to get up into your womb.
Title: Re: First time vagifem
Post by: lor.com on March 25, 2024, 07:23:02 AM
So woke up after great nights sleep but area feels hot and weird. Is it psychisomatic or can it make you sore? 
Title: Re: First time vagifem
Post by: Joaniepat on March 25, 2024, 08:05:37 AM
It will take a while for the tissues to get used to the oestrogen after a long time without any. Perhaps it's that.
JP x
Title: Re: First time vagifem
Post by: Ayesha on March 25, 2024, 10:23:32 AM
I only put mine a little way up to be comfortable, its a very hard little critter of a pessary. Natural to feel something until your body gets used to it, a moisturiser will help. If you find the pessary is not enough for the outside you can ask for Ovestin to use topically.
Title: Re: First time vagifem
Post by: Dierdre on March 25, 2024, 10:55:57 AM
So woke up after great nights sleep but area feels hot and weird. Is it psychisomatic or can it make you sore?

Sometimes the fillers in the pessary can irritate the vulva when they expel if I place it too low, I usually place it about 2 thirds in but not right up to the cervix. Use a moisturiser in the morning after your shower which should wash away any residue left that could irritate.
Title: Re: First time vagifem
Post by: lor.com on March 25, 2024, 07:46:45 PM
Feels a bit draggy and achey. Hope that goes soon! Not been comfy today! Why are we blessed with all this cr@p!
Title: Re: First time vagifem
Post by: lor.com on March 26, 2024, 08:57:43 AM
Well now I have full on period pains! Weird and not what I expected. Thought this was going to make me happier not in pain 😞
Title: Re: First time vagifem
Post by: Dierdre on March 26, 2024, 10:23:13 AM
I had pelvic cramp when I first started but didn't have a period. Are you postmenopausal?
Title: Re: First time vagifem
Post by: lor.com on March 26, 2024, 11:44:52 AM
Yes most definitely. It’s really not what I expected. Think I’ll just accept my sex life is over.
Title: Re: First time vagifem
Post by: Jules on March 26, 2024, 08:52:24 PM
Yes most definitely. It’s really not what I expected. Think I’ll just accept my sex life is over.

How often are you using it? I remember when I first started I had some mild period type pain after a few weeks but not straight away but after that it was fine. I have no effects from any of the variations of topical estrogen I use other than a recent bleed when I increased the dose. Dont lose heart. Ask your doctor. It made such a difference for me sex wise.
Title: Re: First time vagifem
Post by: lor.com on March 27, 2024, 09:58:57 AM
I’ve lost heart! Feel amazing this morning as I didn’t use it last night. Will do separate post.
Title: Re: First time vagifem
Post by: Bo on March 28, 2024, 05:38:04 PM
Apart from helping against the oestrogen possibly affecting the cervix and/or getting into the womb, are there any other benefits to putting the Ovestin (I'm on cream) lower down (e.g. halfway up)? For instance, does it help pain on intercourse more?


So sorry you're having these problems OP. The whole thing is damned miserable at times. Keep trying though. Maybe get a different preparation?
Title: Re: First time vagifem
Post by: CLKD on March 28, 2024, 06:19:37 PM
lor.com - U don't need to begin a different thread, 1 is able to alter the subject line if appropriate.

It's the Trial and Error that is so tiring!
Title: Re: First time vagifem
Post by: Jules on March 28, 2024, 07:53:40 PM
I’ve lost heart! Feel amazing this morning as I didn’t use it last night. Will do separate post.

The thing is VA doesnt just stop. It is a deteriorating condition. You dont want to end up really sore and tissue wasting or fusing. Ask your doctor for advice
Title: Re: First time vagifem
Post by: orrla on March 28, 2024, 08:00:35 PM
That's why rings put inside make most sense, but ..there are shortages ..now.?