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Title: Charity Projects
Post by: katsclaws on March 06, 2012, 03:54:55 PM
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Title: Re: Charity Projects
Post by: Hurdity on March 06, 2012, 04:31:18 PM
Hi there
All very commendable but what they are asking you to do is subsidise them on a paid holiday, albeit a working one!
Lots of charities do this sort of thing - ask for members to sign up for treks or projects costing the earth and asking them to get sponsorship.
Sometimes the sponsorship they ask people to raise goes towards the work of the charity - but still - I would say this is definitely not the best use of the money!!
Of course as it's a close relative you want to help pay for their wonderful experience - then great - but just for 2 weeks? - this is almost certainly a holiday mainly for the benefit of the participant rather than the recipients.
Just my opinion - since you asked!
Hurdity x
Title: Re: Charity Projects
Post by: Bette on March 06, 2012, 05:35:58 PM
We have also had weekly reminders by either text, email or letter saying that we haven't yet donated.  I'm afraid that would bring out my stubborn streak and put me off completely.  >:(
I had a similar thing when a friend asked me to go online to sign up to sponsor her for a run. All the names and amounts were there for all to see and you could add little comments. I thought that it was horrible; I like to keep things like that private.  :-\
 Bette x
Title: Re: Charity Projects
Post by: Taz2 on March 06, 2012, 06:00:04 PM
In defence of this type of charity work I would like to say that the "project" work is the part which is very helpful here. As in all things you have to pick and choose the charity. My friend was involved with one where the project was to build walls around wells in remote villages in Africa. This may not sound very worthwhile or necessary but has saved the lives of over fifteen young children a year who would topple into the wells when trying to lift the bucket up. It was a simple thing but man/woman power was in short supply when every waking hour is spent gathering food and water and then cooking it etc. The volunteers live with the families while they are undertaking the work - strong friendships have been forged too. However it is not a holiday as such. You are met at the airport by a landrover or beaten up bus and carried for many miles along mud roads before being deposited in a village with no electric or medical facilities close at hand. It is not for the faint-hearted. I have had a friend who walked some of the Great Wall of China and this was sponsored but I can't remember which charity it was. This did not seem a worthwhile way to raise money in my opinion.

I think you are talking about "just giving" Bette. There is a facility where you can keep the amount of your donation private. http://www.justgiving.com/info/privacy

My son sponsored a grandparent in India via Help the Aged (as it was then). The guy he got was 52 and out of work but liked to spend his time in the local cafe and bar. His children no longer spoke to him and he had nobody that was interested in him. This was not quite the type of "grandparent" my son had in mind!

Taz x

Title: Re: Charity Projects
Post by: CLKD on March 06, 2012, 07:40:13 PM
Charity begins at home  ::) but have a look-see at the Company records for most and you will see how much they have in property etc.
Title: Re: Charity Projects
Post by: Taz2 on March 06, 2012, 08:16:03 PM
That is true katsclaws but you have to look at what the RSPB is for and where their land is - without owning land then our wild birds wouldn't have the reserves to live in. http://www.rspb.org.uk/reserves/?gclid=CLfg3I6L064CFU8MfAodVR87_g

Taz x
Title: Re: Charity Projects
Post by: Taz2 on March 06, 2012, 08:41:38 PM
Yes I agree. I just meant that it would be difficult for the RSPB  not to be a large landowner. It is always worth checking out where our money goes. I particularly don't like the street corner type of collections for various charities where you buy a £1 pin badge for instance. Not everyone realises that these collectors get paid and are not volunteers and that only a teeny amount of the £1 - often only a few pence - goes to the charity.

Taz x

Title: Re: Charity Projects
Post by: CLKD on March 06, 2012, 09:09:03 PM
National Trust also owns huge tracts of land as well as properties  ::).  When I volunteered 4 CatsProtection 10 years ago it broke my heart  :'(.  Now I tend to buy in Charity shops.  Guide Dogs has enough money to train many more dogs than they do each year  >:( and what happens to the pups that they breed which don't make the grade  :-\ .........

In this area a group of wealthy like-minded people have gone to Africa and built and still support a school in a particular village.  Interestingly to me, they have never asked me for a donation  ??? but tend to  have evenings where like-moneyed people get together to raise funds.  At least they go out, keep an eye on how the projects are managed by the local populace and make sure that it is going to Plan.

You pays your money, you takes your choice.  I tend to keep my money local although our local hospice charity shops are now buying in rather than putting donations onto the shop floor  :cuss: for example, more money can be made by bulk selling of books and clothing than can be got from selling in the shops.
Title: Re: Charity Projects
Post by: Taz2 on March 06, 2012, 09:25:26 PM
As my most favourite place is the North Devon Coast I am rather glad that the National Trust own some land as at least it is unchanged and managed properly.

There are just so many charities nowadays that as you say, CLKD, you have to make your own choices and stick to them.

Taz x
Title: Re: Charity Projects
Post by: viv on March 06, 2012, 10:07:21 PM
My cousins daughter went to India for a year with Project Trust. She had to raise £4000 and she did this in so many different ways. She lived with a teacher and taught numerous children when she was there. She has 4 weeks holiday in the year so it was no long holiday.

There are four girls in my daughters year at school doing this. They have been organising walks and bag packing, a country dance,sponsored swims and walks. They now have to raise £5000.

They go all over the world to volunteer.

Not all of these things are just a free holiday. These kids have to really want to do this and work hard to get there.

Honeyb
x
Title: Re: Charity Projects
Post by: Joyce on March 07, 2012, 08:20:19 AM
My daughter at the age of 17/18 went with 5 others to Zimbabwe to work with different projects.  We didn't have to raise sponsorship as that had be done by our local authority.  It was no holiday!

One of the girls was put in a township.  My daughter was put with another girl in a lovely home. But that was only after complaining about the house they had been put in.  Very dodgy folk.   Boys were placed in various places  which were less than salubrious.   We had to phone a local contact here to sort out several problems.  It certainly opened their eyes.

Whilst there they had to paint an old folks home and work with deprived youngsters.  Once she got home our daughter got begging letters for ages.  She kept in touch with the old lady she had lived with for a couple of years, but then the lady couldn't afford the cost of stamps as the cost of living was so high.

Title: Re: Charity Projects
Post by: CLKD on March 07, 2012, 10:21:35 AM
It is important not to become a drain on the local economy in far-flung places so raising funding helps to get people there with skills which can be taught to locals.  It probably covers Emergency Insurance etc. too.
Title: Re: Charity Projects
Post by: Joyce on March 07, 2012, 10:58:45 AM
I think those who go on these projects find that it is worthwhile and gives them a taste of different lifestyles & cultures. 
One of guys my daughter went to Zimbabwe with, then went on and did a project in Cuba for 3 months.  Lived with locals, travelled on the cuban camel buses.  Believe me, that must have been a feat in itself.  Over 200 people crammed in, no air con.
This video will give you some idea.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UtPNXmwRYTA
Title: Re: Charity Projects
Post by: Hurdity on March 07, 2012, 12:09:40 PM
I agree that some of these projects can be very worthwhile indeed - and I think 3 months  is probably a really good minimum time to be involved. Yes to experience diff lifestyles, cultures and volunteer on a local project
it was just the original post as katsclaws said, referred to £2000 for two weeks work - and I was questioning the value of that, which is in effect a working holiday - even if the work itself contributes something - and therefore not something I would want to support (unless maybe a v close relative) if I could choose where to give a charitable donation!
I think you seem to agree too kc?
I would encourage any young person to try to experience and work on a longer project of this nature - none of mine have shown any inclination.

Hurdity x
Title: Re: Charity Projects
Post by: CLKD on March 07, 2012, 12:18:11 PM
What does the £2,000 cover?
Title: Re: Charity Projects
Post by: CLKD on March 07, 2012, 02:59:02 PM
I think that this type of project is fine.  The only way to find out is to go and if you can help your relative then they will get an insight into what is/not required in future and whether this is to be their Life's work  ;)  ....... I'm not brave enough  ::)
Title: Re: Charity Projects
Post by: CLKD on June 15, 2013, 07:41:18 PM
As an aside - today I received a begging envelope from the Blue Cross or PDSA can't remember which : inside it states that someone heard a kitten and found one in a drain, the message being that this kitten was flushed down a toilet and ended up in said drain  :o which will pull at the heart strings: not.

For a start it is unlikely that anywhere in the UK would anything flushed down a modern loo get into an outside drain.  Also, having tried to flush our kittens down the loo, they wouldn't fit  ;) ........ a small kitten would get to the U-bend and bounce back up?  Having tried to flush other items down the loo, it is very difficult to get 'stuff' down.  So I wonder where in the World was this supposedly to have happened  :-\ ....... the kitten on the packet of course was named 'flush' .........

I am fed up with receiving packets of begging information through the mail.  '  only £3 ' will help rescue another cat.  Well, it might fund the next tank of diesal for the Managing Director but ......... <sigh>

Off to write to the MD as well as sending the whole package to Anglia Water ......... <goes away humphing>
Title: Re: Charity Projects
Post by: Pennyfarthing on June 15, 2013, 08:23:25 PM
A young girl I know went to Nepal for 3 months.  It was supposed to be helping underpriveleged and disabled children - she stayed for the duration but had to ask to be moved twice because it wasn't what they were told it would be. 
Title: Re: Charity Projects
Post by: Taz2 on June 15, 2013, 08:25:36 PM
It is a true story http://www.bluecross.org.uk/82477-81761/kitten-escapes-mew-bend-cat-astrophe-with-help-from-the-blue-cross.html   

Taz x
Title: Re: Charity Projects
Post by: Pennyfarthing on June 15, 2013, 08:33:39 PM
I won't support the RSPCA anymore.  They are one of the wealthiest charities in the country (check out the Charity Commission site) yet their local branches have to fundraise themselves because they are so hard up.  My S-L knits for her local branch where my niece used to help.  The RSPCA HQ gets all the millions which are donated and bequeathed and it goes on staffing, uniforms, vehicles, admin and thousands and thousands on taking people to court.

A woman I used to know was taken to court by RSPCA and it cost them £24,000 and she was cleared.  She had 3 horses and they said she was neglecting one of them.  Now why would anybody neglect just one in a field?  ::)She explained over & over that the horse was very elderly and couldn't keep weight on despite being well fed.  A very cocky RSPCA female inspector took an instant dislike to her and she ended up in court.  The owner was able to provide feed bills, farriers bills, hay bills etc along with a wonderful report from an independent vet and she was cleared.  That was a total waste of £24,000.  I've never supported them since then.
Title: Re: Charity Projects
Post by: CLKD on June 16, 2013, 01:51:36 PM
I haven't supported the RSPCA much in recent years.

Taz - that story doesn't become true simply because it's written.  Where in the UK would anything be flushed down a toilet and end up in an open drain?  To think so is an insult to our Water Companies .......

I have begun my letter of enquiry as a draft - need to wait until the anger recedes.

Title: Re: Charity Projects
Post by: Taz2 on June 16, 2013, 03:41:39 PM
It's a basement drain and, to be fair, the advertising does seem to say that it MAY have been flushed down the loo

"Charlotte Hamilton, the vet who looked after Flush, says: “It's horrendous to think someone may have flushed her down the loo and incredible that she managed to survive.

“She was freezing cold, soaking wet and terrified when she arrived, but amazingly, once we'd warmed and cleaned her up, Flush was absolutely fine.  She's a really lucky little kitten"

I'm not sure what you are angry about!

Taz x
Title: Re: Charity Projects
Post by: CLKD on June 16, 2013, 08:16:06 PM
Because the blurb is trying to make out that this kitten was flushed down a toilet ...... "might have been" isn't good enough when in the UK our drainage is usually sealed.  Found in a basement is totally different to being flushed anywhere  ::)

The Vet. doesn't do herself any favours by even suggesting it 'may' have been flushed .......... it's hype  >:( in order for busy people to think 'oh poor kitten must send some money' without even knowing how that money will be spent ........ I wonder how much their Company is worth these days  ???
Title: Re: Charity Projects
Post by: CLKD on October 30, 2015, 08:30:30 PM
Dogs for the Diasabled has been rebranded ……… dogs for good - wonder what that cost?

I can see the reasons because the Charity now spreads across many conditions.  But a new name  :-\
Title: Re: Charity Projects
Post by: CLKD on December 01, 2015, 04:28:18 PM
I took stuff to the local drop in centre this morning ……. that's 2 boxes off the floor and out of the house  ;)
Title: Re: Charity Projects
Post by: Pennyfarthing on December 01, 2015, 08:34:27 PM
Where are These charities getting a figure of "just £3" from?   Every morning on breakfast TV there's one charity or another asking for £3 to provide water, save a child, feed a donkey. ;D

Another advert I wonder about is the Shelter one.  Can it really be true that 100,000 children in the UK will be homeless over Xmas?
Title: Re: Charity Projects
Post by: CLKD on December 01, 2015, 08:47:16 PM
……. that crossed my mind: as opposed to how many during the rest of the year  :-\

Anyone can ask for the Company Accounts of any Charity which may well surprise people as to how much is in Stocks and Shares etc..  It is almost impossible to spend all that is given …….. because of building constraints in the UK where T&C Planning are strict about what can/not be built.  Plus not many people want childrens' homes, cat/dog kennels close by  ::) etc..  NotInMyBackYard syndrome …….

I think that in many cases volunteering is a good way to 'give' without adding to the coffers  ;)

Monies do go further abroad though ……… but as DH keeps muttering: another Company Car there then :  ::)
Title: Re: Charity Projects
Post by: Pennyfarthing on December 02, 2015, 09:27:49 AM
……. that crossed my mind: as opposed to how many during the rest of the year  :-\

Anyone can ask for the Company Accounts of any Charity which may well surprise people as to how much is in Stocks and Shares etc..  It is almost impossible to spend all that is given …….. because of building constraints in the UK where T&C Planning are strict about what can/not be built.  Plus not many people want childrens' homes, cat/dog kennels close by  ::) etc..  NotInMyBackYard syndrome …….

I think that in many cases volunteering is a good way to 'give' without adding to the coffers  ;)

Monies do go further abroad though ……… but as DH keeps muttering: another Company Car there then :  ::)

I agree with the giving time comment.  I did nearly 15 years, one morning a week with a charity for kids with special needs, alongside that I did 3 years with a charity for older socially isolated people.  I reckon that's me done!  If you added up all those hours even at minimum wage I have given thousands to charity.

For years I stopped sending Xmas cards and with the money I would have spent on cards and postage, I bought a couple of sacks of horse feed and dropped them off at a local  sanctuary. 

I don't give to any charities now and never to any tin rattlers in the street or supermarket.

The Kids Company rip off has finally put me off giving to any more. that was obscene the amount of money they "lost" which the Govt and benefactors gave them. 
Title: Re: Charity Projects
Post by: CLKD on December 02, 2015, 06:40:49 PM
How come the Government supports some Charity organisations but the RNLI doesn't get a penny ? but are rescuing lives at C  :-\ ….. as well as the various helicopter emergency teams are public funded ……...
Title: Re: Charity Projects
Post by: Ju Ju on December 02, 2015, 06:59:58 PM
I volunteer with a charity that relies on donations. GPs regularly refer clients. No money forthcoming from the NHS of course. Many clients have no idea that we are volunteers, most not even claiming for expenses. But many clients are very grateful. We had a 'training' session recently on how to ask for donations sensitively and realistically by a more financially stable branch. We are rock bottom financially and soon will not be able to operate if something is not done. Probably most of us are our own worst enemies. More interested in doing the work and embarrassed about asking for money. But if you don't ask.....
Title: Re: Charity Projects
Post by: CLKD on December 02, 2015, 08:22:23 PM
Could you 'run' a raffle twice a year to raise funds? 

Feet up I hope Ju Ju  ;)
Title: Re: Charity Projects
Post by: Ju Ju on December 03, 2015, 08:27:54 AM
A drop in the ocean. Quality training costs as does many other things.

Yes, feet up. No choice! And DH is being wonderful, even talking to and reassuring my parents every day. Haven't felt up to talking to them. But I'm doing well.
Title: Re: Charity Projects
Post by: CLKD on December 03, 2015, 03:16:40 PM
That's good news!  I found talking to people on the 'phone following surgery really tiring  ::).

I can't understand how Charities like Kids Scape (?) get Government 'help' whereas  >:( ……. could you get a 12-months sponsorship from a Drugs' Company or local industry?
Title: Re: Charity Projects
Post by: Ju Ju on December 03, 2015, 05:14:28 PM
The suggestion that has been successfully trialled, is to give a welcome letter at the beginning, including a suggested donation, approximately what it costs to see a client. It takes the awkwardness and maybe inappropriateness of mentioning the need for donations. I'll see what is decided, but having a positive example helps. We do get the odd grant, but they are getting harder to get these days.
Title: Re: Charity Projects
Post by: CLKD on February 03, 2016, 05:59:39 PM
Dan Hodges, Daily Telegraph yesterday, makes good points about how UK Taxpayers are often topping up the various charities.  Is this what we really want to do?  The National Audit Officce, (NAO) has a report: "Public Funding Of Large Charities - 2007" which is an interesting read. 

Of the £219M income for NCH Action for Children, £196.7M came from public money.  Of the £164M income for MENCAP, £155M came from public funding.  So who is making up the difference? 

Leonard Cheshire income for 2013/14 was £162.2M - voluntary donations were £17.8M.  MENCAPs' 2014 AR had an income of £201.2M, £13.2 raised through fundraising. 

I wonder how many Charities ask the Government for hand-outs? where many have monies invested in Property etc.  :-\.  Many UK Charities list their Annual Accounts on line these days.  The above doesn't take into account the several 1,000s of volunteers in the Charity sector which saves Companies money each year.
Title: Re: Charity Projects
Post by: CLKD on March 08, 2016, 08:31:59 PM
Have 2-day bought underwear and sanitary protection to send to our local shelter, along with thick socks and a jumper that is too tight for me.  The Church has a box which is taken over to the shelter twice a week.

Going through the store it was obvious that packets with 6 pairs of knickers had been opened and 1/2 removed  >:(.  I suggested to the store that those packets with less than stated could be donated to shelters as part of their community commitments (sp). 

Title: Re: Charity Projects
Post by: CLKD on May 11, 2016, 01:39:02 PM
After yet another 'bag' purporting to collect clothing to sell for weight and donation given to charity: Himself waded through the link below:


http://www.charitybags.org.uk/index.htm

He found it an eye opener !
Title: Re: Charity Projects
Post by: Dyan on May 11, 2016, 03:09:21 PM
 :thankyou: so did I.

Mind you if I think it looks suspicious I will use it only to line my bin.
I have my favourite charities I like to donate to via genuine bags.
Title: Re: Charity Projects
Post by: CLKD on May 11, 2016, 03:39:34 PM
Apparently house-2-house collection brings in less than the Charity shops do, no surprises there then  ::). 

The bag that arrived 2-day was started by a man who sold it for £1 to a woman - he is now the 'secretary'.  However the Office has moved 3 times in 14 months  :o from Liverpool via Bristol to Somerset.  No accounts offered yet.  Himself wonders if people start these schemes then pocket the monies after selling the 'rags' ………… I tend to cart stuff directly to the shops but am concerned when I see black bags++ of 'unusable' clothing waiting for collection  :-\
Title: Re: Charity Projects
Post by: kpatton56 on May 11, 2016, 04:30:24 PM
I wouldn't be too concerned about that. I think there are a lot of donations from families after a bereavement where they just clear everything into bags and give it in. There is a lot of stuff that is simply too worn to sell on.
I take anything that I think would sell to our local Barnardos. The reason they get it all is mainly because of the parking and ease of access!!
Title: Re: Charity Projects
Post by: CLKD on May 11, 2016, 05:56:24 PM
That does make a difference.  Fortunately most of the Charity shops have reasonable access to car parking.   But I haven't yet got the pants etc. collected in March due to lack of time  ::)
Title: Re: Charity Projects
Post by: Taz2 on May 14, 2016, 10:23:22 AM
After yet another 'bag' purporting to collect clothing to sell for weight and donation given to charity: Himself waded through the link below:


http://www.charitybags.org.uk/index.htm

He found it an eye opener !

If I'm going to use one of the door step bags I always check online that the collection if valid. The annoying thing is that we had a bogus company going round - I checked with the charity involved and it was not one of their vans - but when the charity contacted the police with the date that the bags were going to be picked up they didn't want to know.

Taz x
Title: Re: Charity Projects
Post by: Ju Ju on May 14, 2016, 10:44:48 AM
Yes I've been aware that there are bogus companies. There is money in second hand clothes etc. I reuse the bags to take any stuff to charity shops or charity bins. I'm afraid I bin unsolicited charity mail into the recycling bin unread, including those which I subscribe to regularly asking me to up my monthly contribution.
Title: Re: Charity Projects
Post by: CLKD on May 14, 2016, 03:11:40 PM
The collection is often valid but the Charity doesn't get much income from them by the time the collectors have taken the 'cut'. 
Title: Re: Charity Projects
Post by: Taz2 on May 14, 2016, 06:47:01 PM
This is an interesting link explaining what to look out for http://www.frsb.org.uk/donors/advice/clothing-collections/

Taz x
Title: Re: Charity Projects
Post by: CLKD on January 21, 2017, 04:14:20 PM
 :bounce:
Title: Re: Charity Projects
Post by: breeze on January 21, 2017, 04:23:18 PM
I put charity bags straight in the bin.

If I want to donate I take my stuff to a shop myself.

Simple.
Title: Re: Charity Projects
Post by: CLKD on January 21, 2017, 04:25:03 PM
Someone started a thread about food banks ;-)
Title: Re: Charity Projects
Post by: Pennyfarthing on January 21, 2017, 04:34:06 PM
By coincidence I've just been watching TV progs  which I recorded. One was Fake Britain and it covered fake clothes collection banks. Never knew there were such things but apparently there are loads and I think I'm right in saying that old clothes are now fetching £700 a ton so there's massive money in it an it all goes into the pocket of unscrupulous people and NOT to charities.

If you use these banks make sure they have charities name, charity number and phone number on. The fake ones they showed just had "Kids Go Green" on them and there is no such charity.
Title: Re: Charity Projects
Post by: CLKD on January 21, 2017, 04:42:41 PM
It doesn't make much different PF, some of the bags have apparently legal 'logos' but when Himself looks on the net, they are run by Eastern Europeans who jump from idea to idea, closing one name B4 opening the next.  Clothes are put out in the plastic sacks, picked up and sent to Europe - the Charities mentioned on the sacks either don't exist or get very little or nothing from the pick up.

Which is why we tend in recent years to take stuff to UK Charity Shops although I do need to ask where they bags of stuff not sold goes to: as well as the homeless charity in our closest large town, collect by the Church here.

I didn't know about the food bank until November - apparently it's been used for 10 years  :o
Title: Re: Charity Projects
Post by: nearly50 on January 21, 2017, 07:39:45 PM
I leave the house at 7am and quite often see a couple of women managing to squeeze their hands into the charity clothes bins at the end of the street to get piles of stuff, so that puts me off donating to them.
Title: Re: Charity Projects
Post by: Pennyfarthing on January 21, 2017, 07:43:23 PM
Bags were regularly stolen in the early hours where I lived before. I once put a bag out for Cystic Fibrosis and it had gone when I got up. I then saw the CF van coming up the road some hours later.  The thing is lots of people couldn't care less. They're just relieved to have an opportunity to get rid of junk without making much effort, so as long as the bag disappears ....

You're right. I've seen it round here too. 
Title: Re: Charity Projects
Post by: CLKD on January 21, 2017, 10:19:05 PM
Several years ago, sacks would be lifted into white vans, sorted by the travellers, stuff they didn't want dumped in lay-bys  :-\.  Then the Council had to clear it all up which then went to land-fill  :sigh:
Title: Re: Charity Projects
Post by: CLKD on February 03, 2017, 06:04:42 PM
I went onto the web-site of our local homeless centre that we take stuff to - they had a really good response pre-C.mas with lots of clothing, bedding, soap etc. donated, so much so that they don't want any more donations until mid-Feb. except male and female underwear. 

Apparently street sleepers are on the rise again.  Some Hostels won't take those with dog/s which is a bit short sighted  ::).
Title: Re: Charity Projects
Post by: CLKD on February 27, 2018, 11:30:24 AM
Last night there was an article on the news, asking the public to contact 'shelters' if they see people sleeping rough.

How can emergency rooms be provided in cold weather but not the rest of the year?  We support the Trussel Trust {I think it's called} as well as the local homeless support group in Northampton.  With clothing, food, thick socks etc..  There are lots of people 'under the arches' in M Keynes in tents .......... I read on the national news about a woman who was peed on and then had a bucket of cold water poured over her  :'( in a doorway.

1 thing I think would help are emergency foil blankets.  I carry a few with me to hand out, put on top of the cardboard and wrapped round the person then covered with a blanket will help.  They cost between a quid and a fiver.  Can be used several times.  Some people really can't cope with being with other people in a 'closed' situation  :-\ preferring to hide away in a deep pile of blankets. 

Sanitary towels are a real problem for rough sleepers.  Lack of money to buy every month ......... I had very heavy, clotty periods: 10 days bleed, 10 days off .............  :-\
Title: Re: Charity Projects
Post by: JaneinPen on February 28, 2018, 11:17:54 AM
There is a link for “Say no to a second night” for the homeless.  It is http://www.streetlink.org.uk/ They also have a mobile app
Title: Re: Charity Projects
Post by: CLKD on February 28, 2018, 11:19:34 AM
 :thankyou:

apparently it's the time of year for public 'sleep outs'  :o

I often think of those in box city what ever the weather  :-\
Title: Re: Charity Projects
Post by: Taz2 on March 02, 2018, 10:25:51 AM
There is a link for “Say no to a second night” for the homeless.  It is http://www.streetlink.org.uk/ They also have a mobile app

Thanks for the link Herdwick.

CLKD - do you know where you get your foil blankets from? They do vary in cost. Asking for my son who lives in the middle of a city so often chats to rough sleepers on his way home.

Taz x
Title: Re: Charity Projects
Post by: Daisydot on March 02, 2018, 10:33:03 AM
Hi Taz2 amazon have a very good selection at reasonable prices xx
Title: Re: Charity Projects
Post by: CLKD on March 02, 2018, 10:34:12 AM
Walking/camping outlets.  They do vary from a quid to about a fiver.  I was going to ask during the year about buying in bulk, the same with sanitary protection; once this snow goes I'm off to the supermarket to see if they will give me a 'deal'.  Girls are desperate in some places, even those that aren't sleeping rough!

The idea with the foil blankets is to put a layer of cardboard on the pavement, put the blanket open on top so that it will wrap around the person B4 putting blankets on top.  To make a cacoon - if that makes sense.  Stops the cold seeping upwards as well as trapping warmth against the body.  There are usually 'instructions' on the packets.

Tnx Daisydot
Title: Re: Charity Projects
Post by: Daisydot on March 02, 2018, 10:44:22 AM
Well done you very compassionate xx
Title: Re: Charity Projects
Post by: CLKD on March 02, 2018, 10:49:45 AM
It's the thought that counts and so far, I think about buying bulk when I'm not near a store  ::) but am determined to help more this year.  I can't help across the World but I will feed my wild birds as well as local homeless projects.  People looked after me as I was growing up in the way of hand-me down clothing: cousins, neighbours, jumble sales - remember those  ;D and whilst my younger sister was horrified, it never bothered me.  However, she now buys from charity shops  ::).

The thing Mum wouldn't accept were shoes.  At school there was a 'box' for end of Summer Term students to donate their uniforms into.  They were then mended by the needlework teacher and 'pressed', ready for children who were from large families.  No one seemed to mind, it was looking the same that was important.  Those without stood out more.  It was done tactfully. 
Title: Re: Charity Projects
Post by: Daisydot on March 02, 2018, 11:16:39 AM
That was a great idea and should be done more nowadays we are so wasteful.x
Title: Re: Charity Projects
Post by: CLKD on April 17, 2019, 01:04:35 PM
Some think that those who put monies into Notre Dame should contribute to other Charities.  Firstly I would remind everyone who thinks of giving to get hold of the 'company' accounts for the Charity that takes your fancy.  You may get a horrid surprise.  Which is why I now support with goods to the Food Bank nearby - so it goes into the store, is accounted for locally and handed out to people in our area.  Same with good quality shoes and clothing, it goes to the Shelter for local Homeless via the Church - to be sold in the shop for small amounts.  I get regular e-mail updates and can look on line at how monies are spent and where.

The bigger the Organisation the more people need paying!  Then it becomes a franchise under the headers of the Big Ones: RSPCA, Cats Protection - who get very little monetary help from HQ!  Been there, done it  :'(
Title: Re: Charity Projects
Post by: sheila99 on April 17, 2019, 04:43:53 PM
And often a lot of it goes on advertising, prime time TV ads cost thousands. I support smaller charities because more of my donation goes towards the work.
Title: Re: Charity Projects
Post by: CLKD on April 17, 2019, 04:52:12 PM
I'd forgotten about the adverts., as well as the chuggers that drive a marked vehicle and stand in town centres with stuffed dogs  ::)
Title: Re: Charity Projects
Post by: Krystal on April 22, 2019, 07:01:59 PM
CLKD well said. I too have looked at the so called impoverished charities who play on the good will of volunteers at a local level only to find that their HQ is very lavish. The people at a local level hold fund raising events such as bucket collections and cake stalls to keep the local branch going. This is where all the real hard work actually takes place only to find that the HQ team attend celebratory events at a cost which would keep the local branches going for years. You could argue that these celebratory events raise the profile of the charity under the guise of speculate to accumulate but is this really necessary?   


Chuggers are a menace to all. By law they are not allowed to approach you and ask directly for money but many do. I have experienced them actually standing in my pathway as I walked through the town, started their sales pitch and got abusive as I walked briskly around them.


Charity Bags through the door are another thing I cannot be doing with. The charity this week, usually has a name very similar to a well known charity local to the area. The company doing the bag collections is a registered clothing collection company, and the charity concerned is registered as a charity. The small print on the bag does say a donation from each bag will go to the charity, in reality only a very small percentage of the value of the contents of the bag is likely to go to the receipient. I have never contributed to any charity by leaving a filled bag on my doorstep. I always take any donations I may have directly to the local outlet of the charity of my choice. At least I know the donations will be used or sold on to the benefit of the charity concerned. Where I live there have been many warnings that these Charity Bags through the door may operated by scammers.


Title: Re: Charity Projects
Post by: CLKD on April 22, 2019, 07:54:02 PM
They hail from Kettering - so look at the 'charity' name on the bags to see who is operating the collection and how much will go to the charity.  DH is always looking to check - we support mostly via local shops as bags have such similar logos etc. printed on  ::).  The ones through our door get used to hold freshly caught fish in ;-).

Many years ago a friend was employed as a money raiser, she had to buy posh frocks etc. [we're neither of us posh frock people  ;D] and get herself to venues to encourage people to put money towards the Charity requirements.  She was paid £25,000 per year ........... a certain amount have to be salaried in order to get honest people who are less likely to walk away with the monies. 

As for Notre Dame - it appears that many UK land owners will be offering up oak trees etc.  :-* to help with the rebuilding .   One states that his ancestors were at Agincourt so feels it is time that he gave something back as he feels guilty  ::)
Title: Re: Charity Projects
Post by: CLKD on November 12, 2019, 09:05:22 AM
Here it is, do read B4 putting things into bags as all may not be what it seems!  Better to take directly so that the shop can make decisions as to what to keep and what to sell as rags therefore getting paid by weight.
Title: CATS Protection appeal [ Charity Projects]
Post by: CLKD on June 17, 2021, 07:17:36 PM
A stowaway kitten who survived a trip from Romania to the UK in a lorry has been described as a "little fighter".
The four-week-old, named Roman by his rescuers, was found severely dehydrated by warehouse staff in Bedford.
Roman was underweight and had swollen, inflamed eyes which had to be bathed before he could open them.


He needed intensive care, intravenous fluids and antibiotics and will spend three months in quarantine, sponsored by the charity Cats Protection, which has set up an appeal to pay for his care.
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So: with all the monies CP has in it's coffers, isn't this something that the Charity Commission should be stopping?  Why does CP need an appeal ........ how do we know that this money will go into caring 4 this tiny kitten; which really, being so poorly and from abroad  :-\ .......... had it been one of us bringing a kitten in .............
Title: Blue Cross closes centres
Post by: CLKD on July 01, 2021, 08:00:49 PM
Why does any charity need to close 'centres'?  They have millions in the banks so why not put their hands into their pockets.  Even if the cages etc. aren't modern, then get some monies into the system at local level and bring them up to date !?!?!


An animal rehoming charity has closed four of its centres, shedding 66 jobs in the process.

Blue Cross centres in Cambridge, Lewknor in Oxfordshire, and Torbay and Tiverton in Devon closed on Wednesday.

Thousands had signed petitions set up by volunteers and supporters to try to lobby for the shelters to remain open.

However, the charity said the closures reflected "changes beyond our control in the last year" and would save Blue Cross £1m per year.

The animal welfare charity, which has been working throughout the UK since it was founded in 1897, said following "in-depth consultations" with staff it was putting in place "a new structure to improve services and reach even more pets in need".
Title: National Trust [Charity Projects]
Post by: CLKD on July 01, 2021, 08:04:46 PM
NT is selling off a wild flower meadow to builders and will 'endeavour to make sure that nature isn't disturbed to any great degree' or words to that effect.  Even though locals have crowd funded £K50 thus far, NT have sold ......... I wonder what is in their Constitution to allow them to sell land/properties that have been gifted?  We stopped our NT membership this year due to not being happy with the way they deal with issues.
Title: Re: Charity Projects
Post by: Taz2 on July 01, 2021, 09:25:22 PM
That's a shame. I hadn't heard about this. Which one have they sold?

Taz x
Title: Re: Charity Projects
Post by: CLKD on July 02, 2021, 08:21:53 AM
I can't remember, it was in the Sat papers in a very small article - I meant to read it again but of course ..........  :-\ it makes my blood boil, how these charities can do what they like with public money  >:(
Title: Re: Charity Projects
Post by: CLKD on July 02, 2021, 08:27:54 AM
Interesting: the Telegraph headline was 'wild flower meadow' and it won't let me in 2 view articles unless I sign up to a subscription online.

However:

The National Trust has been criticised in a huge outpouring of anger after it agreed to sell three acres of peaceful woodland in Devon to a housing developer - after locals have raised £20,000 in a fighting fund to buy the land.

Now National Trust members are threatening to boycott the Trust over the decision to sell the three acres of wild land to the highest bidder.

Residents wanted to buy Bonds Meadow in Bovey Tracey from the Trust. The Save Bonds Meadow action group said: "There will be no more dawn chorus after the National Trust announced a deal this week to sell this woodland for development."

"We are going to fight for every single tree and every single dormouse," said campaigner Sally Morgan.


The National Trust said it had sold the land to the higher bidding developer because it was obliged to do so as a charity.

Campaign group Save Bonds Meadow had raised nearly £20,000 towards a £50,000 target to buy the site which is next to Bullands field. They say it was donated to the Trust in the will of local farmer and lifelong resident Major Hole, as part of the Parke Estate. The Trust says the monetary value of the land stands in the region of £300,000.

They said the "rich plot of land" has more than 700 species of flora and fauna, including bats, newts and dormice and is "a much-loved quiet corner of the town".



There's always a cop out : higher bidding developer wonder how much was actually paid ? ! ?
Title: Re: Charity Projects
Post by: Taz2 on July 02, 2021, 08:36:04 AM
Yes it's in Bovey Tracey. It's a woodland not a wildflower meadow. Such a shame although it was left to NT as part of a larger estate with the proviso that it can be sold to help with the upkeep of the rest of the estate. It seems as if it has been allowed to "rewild" over the past fifteen years but now the money is needed for the rest of the estate so the best bid has to be found. I guess it's all in the legal clauses when the Parke Estate was left. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-devon-57559805.

Taz x  :(