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Menopause Discussion => Other Health Discussion => Topic started by: JoJo42 on October 17, 2022, 11:54:34 AM
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Hi All,
I’ve just booked an appt for the autumn covid booster, but now I’m getting really anxious about the side effects now as I had a bit of a rough time after the first AZ injection I had with feeling fluey, chills and muscle and joint pains and upset stomach. It all settled after a few days again. Then I had a Pfizer booster last time and had a delayed reaction at the injection site with pain and redness and an odd ****ling sensation.
I feel like I should have the booster because my husband has diabetes and COPD, (plus - I have M.E and Fibro), but I’m getting anxious about the side effects as everyone I’ve spoken to has had a bit of a rough time with the booster. It makes me consider not having the jab at all. Anyone have any thoughts/words of wisdom.
JoJo xxx
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Had our Phizer this morning - will report if there are problems.
What's 'rough time' actually mean? 1 man's cold with be another man's 'flu ;). Rough to me means admission to hospital into ICU. 'flu is what it is - 5-10 days feeling aching, sweaty, shivering and really really tired.
If you think that you will have a reaction that sends you to bed for a while, is there someone who can look after your DH?
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Hi Clkd, yes - keep us posted please.
Rough time means spiking a really high fever in the middle of the night where my husband thought i was about to spontaneously combust, extreme chills and shivering, muscle and joint pains, diarrhoea, that omg-i’ve-been-run over-by-a-herd-of-stampeding-elephants-feeling! No hospital/ICU, thankfully! And it did all eventually subside after a few days, but i was left feeling wiped out for a couple of weeks after. I think it may have made the M.E flare up afterwards.
My husband can look after me if i’m out of action for a while! I think I just feel a bit wary of it all because I seem to have reacted to two different types now. That said - I had the normal flu jab a couple of weeks ago and was fine after that.
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It's the jab stimulating your immune system, which can be dire. Did U report those symptoms on the Yellow Card, every report means more knowledge built around this Pandemic. Certainly I would be loathe to go for another jab!
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Yes, I reported the side effects. I think I’ll just have to get it done and hope for the best. I would hate to get covid and pass it on to my husband, or end up with long covid myself on top of M.E. I’m just nervous about it all. I absolutely hate shivering/fever/chills and joint pains. It knocks me flat. Just being a bit of a mard arse! :stretcher: :lol:
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I was a bit hot in the night and I had achy bones but only that first night. A slight headache and a bit tired the next day but otherwise nothing really to report.
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Thanks for your reply Gnatty. That has made me feel a bit better about going. Maybe it won’t be as bad as I think. x
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Do explain if you make an appt how the jabs have affected you B4 you offer up your arm ;-)
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Why, Clkd? What might they do?
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They may suggest a different booster if 1 is available.
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Had our Phizer this morning - will report if there are problems.
What's 'rough time' actually mean? 1 man's cold with be another man's 'flu ;). Rough to me means admission to hospital into ICU. 'flu is what it is - 5-10 days feeling aching, sweaty, shivering and really really tired.
If you think that you will have a reaction that sends you to bed for a while, is there someone who can look after your DH?
Im surprised youve had Pfizer CLKD, I thought the Autumn booster was now the Moderna"s new bivalent vaccine, has Pfizer developed one too?
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I've no idea. Why R U surprised? It is what it is .
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Aaahhhhh! Yes, I see. Thank you Clkd! I ‘ll mention it to them when i go. xx
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It’s the Pfizer or the Moderna for the Autumn booster according to someone we know are doing the jabs
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tnx littleminnie
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My sister had the booster recently and felt pretty rough with it, as had several of her work colleagues. Her symptoms didn't last that long though.
My teen daughter has decided she is going to chance it and not have the booster she has been offered. She was really bad after third one.
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Thanks for your reply Tinkerbell. I think I would probably chance not having it if my husband didn’t have diabetes and copd. I’ll just have to have it and hope side effects are not too bad and/don’t last too long. I have a friend who has not had any side effects at all from any of the vaccines or boosters … as she loves to keep telling me and rubbing it in. I definitely understand where your daughter is coming from - a bad experience with it definitely sticks in the memory.
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Is it better to be poorly after boosters or not :-\
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Good point!! It could be better to have a reaction...
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My sister had the booster recently and felt pretty rough with it, as had several of her work colleagues. Her symptoms didn't last that long though.
My teen daughter has decided she is going to chance it and not have the booster she has been offered. She was really bad after third one.
I felt rough for 24 hrs with body/muscle aches but it was bearable would rather have that than actual Covid.
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I was more ill after the Pfizer booster last time than having covid. Thought it was just Moderna doing the 4th boosters but obviously not. Not sure what I'm going to do now, it shouldn't be this hard a decision that we are scared to have a vaccine. It's not even been 9 month since I had the last one. Where's the data all these boosters so close together are safe?
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I did the Pfizer bivalent in late September. It hurt my arm more than the other Pfizer shots I had. The pain in the arm lasted longer too. I had headache and fatigue and did feel warm though not enuf for fever. It took awhile, quite awhile, for my arm to stop hurting but now I’m fine. The Moderna is an even higher dosage than the Pfizer.
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I suppose the reaction does show that the immune system is kicking in doesn’t it. I also wondered - if my immune system goes haywire to the vaccines then how would i react to a dose of covid? Probably end up in hospital. Most of my friends don’t even give it a thought - toddle along, get jabbed, brag about having no problems, crack on.
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I just had a Pfizer booster on Saturday and had no side effect except a sore arm that's still lingering. The same was with Moderna previously. With AZ i had some symptoms of flu and tiredness for couple of days.
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Thanks Stella2. Good to know. My worst reaction was with the AZ, so maybe this autumn booster won’t be quite as bad.
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My arm became sore by evening, hurt if I slept on that side ::) but not enough to keep waking me. I am aware that I've been jabbed ........ like a bruise I suppose.
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Glad to hear things not too bad for you clkd. I met a couple in the park who are well into their eighties whi both had their booster jabs yesterday and are absolutely fine - not even a sore arm between them! Amazing. They also both had covid and few weeks ago and the man had some symptoms but the wife was positive and had no problems whatsoever.
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I had the Pfizer jab, week ago today, no real side effects at all.
OH had the Moderna booster last Thursday morning.
We went out for a meal Thursday evening, wasn’t out long, as soon as we got back he felt poorly.
He had to stay in bed for two days, slept the whole time, mostly completely out of it, I’d almost say he was on another planet, :o dreaming out loud, talking, ect….I had to wake him to drink and to change his t.shirt, which was soaking wet from all the sweating he’d done. 3/4 times that was.
He recovered the third day, slowly.
He reacts like that to any which one he has. It’s a bloody nightmare! 🤷🏼♀️
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Oof! Sounds awful, Jillydoll. I totally sympathise. That’s how I felt after the AZ with the addition of joint pains and what felt like gastroenteritis. I wonder why some people react and others don’t? I’ve resigned myself to two things: I’m having the jab. It will more than likely be ‘orrible!
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OK thus far.
jillydoll - that's awful. Again >:(. He must have an over activated immune system from his original attack of Covid :-\
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Yeah, AGAIN being the right word. ;D
He’s recovered now, thank goodness, and I’m glad he’s had it, after him being so ill from it first time round.
It’s just a pain in the backside, and a couple of days lost.
But, I’d rather that, than what could’ve happened. 🙀
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Of course jillydoll. Interesting reactions though. Not nice but something is stimulating his immune system.
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Glad to hear he has recovered now Jillydoll.
Thanks for the update clkd
xx
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Thank you JoJo42. 👍
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I felt the same after my first pfizer jab. Aches in my legs and arms went on for weeks. I'm due my 4th jab this week so hoping no side effects.
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Had flu and covid boosters on Saturday and feel awful ! Was wanting to have them separately but the nurse said it wouldn't matter . Well i wish i hadnt listened . Been in bed with every listed side effect . Its like a double whammy !!
Cant believe its now thursday and have been ill for 5 days 🥴
Anyone else had the two together and suffered ?? X
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Hope it goes ok Joanie!
Rosie Roo - sounds awful! Hope you are feeling better.
xx
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That's why I won't be having the 'flu jab though we weren't offered it on Monday with the Pfizer.
We've both had snuffles since and DH felt weary for 24 hours, it didn't stop him doing anything; snuffles be due to my allergic rhinitis being aggravated . Otherwise.
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How’s everyone feeling now?
My OH has been fatigued, not eating much, but I think today was a better day for him, it’s been 10 days since his jab.
I find it really weird how it affects him so bad and yet I have no side effects at all. 🤷🏼♀️
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As I think I mentioned, it would be nice to know if a reaction is better for the immune system than none?
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CLKD I remember reading somewhere that younger people reacted more to the first vaccinations because they had stronger immune systems, but then other articles said the complete opposite. It seemed at the time like everyone became a medical expert and wanted to give their opinion, so it's hard to know what was fact and what was fiction!
I can't find anything more recent from a source I would deem trustworthy but may try googling again later.
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Tnx getting_old. Will U have a booster?
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Tnx getting_old. Will U have a booster?
Just in the process of booking one.
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Had mine yesterday, the new Pfizer omicron one, arm hurts bad but thats a common side effect, i will let you know if i get any other side effects.
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I've still not booked mine, I'm so worried about this 4th booster after being ill with the last one. I've been looking back to my WhatsApp conversations with my family and I was ill for 4 days, but was ill 10 days with Covid just before Christmas. Also I had to have an ECG because of palpatations after Covid and strange brusing that just appeared for no reason.
Logically I should be more worried about Covid but my brains not thinking logically and I'm anxious about the risk of myocarditis with this Moderna vaccine, would feel better if I knew it was Pfizer again but you cant choose.
Anyone got some reassuring words in favour of this jab, all I'm hearing is negative at the moment and alot of people saying they're not having any more.
I'm scared to have it but also scared if i don't!
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I've still not booked mine, I'm so worried about this 4th booster after being ill with the last one. I've been looking back to my WhatsApp conversations with my family and I was ill for 4 days, but was ill 10 days with Covid just before Christmas. Also I had to have an ECG because of palpatations after Covid and strange brusing that just appeared for no reason.
Logically I should be more worried about Covid but my brains not thinking logically and I'm anxious about the risk of myocarditis with this Moderna vaccine, would feel better if I knew it was Pfizer again but you cant choose.
Anyone got some reassuring words in favour of this jab, all I'm hearing is negative at the moment and alot of people saying they're not having any more.
I'm scared to have it but also scared if i don't!
My third one was Moderna. Felt unwell straight after a doctor sat with me for half an hour before they let me home. Continued to have 'turns' everyday for two and a half weeks. After that at a decreasing rate for six months. The last one was at the beginning of June.
Doctor at the vac centre suspected a panic attack but I've had those for years and this was very different. I eventually used an oxymeter during I turn, and discovered my heart rate dropped to 60 (normally 70 resting) and was irratic.
Consequently I will definitely not be having any more Covid vacs. I had Covid two weeks ago and it was no more than a mild cold. For me the vac is more of a worry the the illness..
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Hello dierdre,
I'm not sure if your in the UK but when I booked mine on the NHS site I had a choice of places to go to so I just rang them. The first I rang was pzfiser so I just booked it.
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Aprilflower, did you not report these turns to your doctor or anyone? Hope you're ok now. Do you think your mild dose of covid
was because you had the vaccine though?
Thanks Pauline67, I might do that, I was ill with the Pfizer booster last time but not as serious as Aprilflower's side effects. I definately don't want the Moderna. I wonder whats in that one that causes heart problems that's not in the Pfizer, or maybe it is, who knows!
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Just done some research and both Moderna and Pfizer have rare myocarditis side effect listed.
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All medications have side effects.
We've been fine other than the snuffles . The ache in the jabbed arm has eased although the area itches. I've been putting hand cream on it.
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I wish we would hear more from those that are fine and less of the horror stories, ignorance is sometimes bliss, it would encourage more to have the boosters. Just hearing the awful reactions is putting people off. Having said that, I know serious side effects are rare but when you or your loved ones are the rare one it happens to, the "benefits" become irrelevant.
Also I realise all medications and vaccines have side effects but most are not causing serious life threatening issues these covid vaccines have caused and even death. Just because it's a few shouldn't mean it's OK.
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They are still all under emergency licence and are still being reviewed and tested and yes they have saved thousands of lives but it don't make them less scary for some people to take.
I'm one of those people who hate taking a paracetamol (took me years to be ok taking local estrogen), so these vaccines have been a big thing for me to do and although I do always have them it takes me weeks to talk myself into it, its getting harder each time.
I've had covid twice now but that wasn't my choice to make, so it seemed less stressful than having the jabs, if that makes sense...
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It does make sense. However, it isn't known how long effects from the Virus last or indeed, how long immunity lasts after the boosters.
Which leads me to explain that no one with symptoms should be jabbed, vaccines should be given to healthy people/animals! Especially if 1 has underlying health conditions, this should be discussed in detail prior to acceping vaccines etc..
It was a bit like a supermarket when we went, all lined up in a row >:(
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I watched all of the debate in parliament on Monday about covid vaccine safety and injuries.
Very interesting, but was dismayed to see how few MP’s bothered to turn up despite numerous requests from their constituents to do so.
Still, Monday was a busy day for them I suppose :-\
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Well….had a Pfizer booster this morning and have felt ok so far. Last time I had a booster vaccine I started with the chills in the middle of the night so I’ll just have to see how it goes.
Husband also had Pfizer this morning and has been absolutely fine so far. Feels great. He was outside in the garden this afternoon doing some jobs!!
Spoke to another older couple yesterday when I was out for a walk and they had both had Moderna without any problems at all. Their son and daughter in law were out with them and they’d both caught covid a few weeks ago and were both very ill. My husband has copd and diabetes and all along it has worried me me that i could catch covid and give it to him. No one knows how they’ll be affected by the vaccines or by covid do they. Although my husband hasn’t been affected by any of the vaccines up to now! Hopefully we’ll both be ok.
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Well done U! Take some Paracetamol on your way to bed to ease any aches and pains that may happen. Keep well hydrated. Better to have a few side effects than Covid with the risk of passing it on. Both will benefit if the Virus does get you having been boostered.
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My first 2 were Astra Zeneca, third one last year was Moderna and I had another Moderna for my booster about 3 weeks ago.
I felt a bit drowsy and under the weather for 48hrs with the first AZ jab but nowhere near as bad as when I had a typhoid & diphtheria vaccination for travelling.
Apart from that, the only other side affect I’ve had is a slightly tender arm for the others but that only lasted a couple of days.
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Now that is a good idea CLKD!! I’ll take some before bed. I was feeling anxious about the jab, but like you say - better to have some side effects than get Covid and pass it on. Just hope it doesn’t get too rough in the night! Urrghh. Fingers-crossed. Send positive vibes! xxx
The couple I spoke to that caught covid a few weeks ago and had it bad said they thought they were probably just at the tail end of their last booster protection when they caught it. The woman said she honestly felt that if she hadn’t had her jabs, and had at least some protection, she would’ve ended up in hospital. She still sounded a bit chesty when I saw her and that was a few weeks after the virus.
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I watched all of the debate in parliament on Monday about covid vaccine safety and injuries.
Very interesting, but was dismayed to see how few MP’s bothered to turn up despite numerous requests from their constituents to do so.
Still, Monday was a busy day for them I suppose :-\
Just read this debate online, sounds like there's a lot more injuries and deaths caused from the vaccine people know about.
A lot of unanswered questions..
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Felt fine all day yesterday. Took paracetemol before bed. No chills/fever in the night or severe joint pains like I had with the Az. Slept ok. Nothing to report apart from a bit of a heavy feeling in the muscle in my arm. Been out for a walk and now feeling tired, but that’s probably just my battery running a bit flat now with the M.E/CFS. Will rest today and take it easy. Hope everyone else doing ok. x
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I was about to ask the question: Did U sleep JoJo42?
I think more will become known as research becomes available. My wonder is how long B4 boosters get on top of Covid ..........
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There are still so many unknowns about all of it aren’t there…how the illness affects the body in different people…vaccine reactions…and the many different variants that seem to keep coming. Like you say, clkd - the research is ongoing isn’t it.
I tossed and turned a bit in the night, but that’s not unusual for me. I think sleep problems are just part of the M.E. I might put the electric blanket on and slither back into bed later. My body seems to shut down in the afternoons - I get cold and exhausted and the raynaud’s kicks in.
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I had the Pfizer and flu jabs 6 days ago. Had sore arms for about 3 days. I thought I had escaped any yucky side effects but have had a sore head for the last couple of days (responding ok to ibuprofen), feeling a bit lightheaded and nauseous :-\
Hoping to feel better tomorrow 😷
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I definitely won’t be having another booster, I wasn’t to bad immediately after the last one then started having a dark discharge with hot n cold sweats ( I’m post memo several years). Got checked out by the gyne who said everything was ok, but she had seen several women with similar side effects.
This went on for about 3 months.
Hubby had an almost instant bad reaction. Soaked the bed for four days, weak for several more.
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I've made the decision not to have any more boosters after reading the Parliamentary debate online on Monday, regarding vaccine safety.
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Just to update, am feeling completely back to normal today. Who knows for sure about these vaccines 🙏. Outcome may be dependent on individual’s overall health status but, for me, on balance, very glad to have had the 4th covid vaccine and will continue to receive when offered :) 🫶
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I’ve not had any.
Got covid April 20 and again May 22.
Still here and concentrating on getting my endocrine system in balance which is the only battle I want to fight.
I believe I have a good level of natural immunity and that’s enough for me.
Of course might be wrong and drop dead from it!
My choice
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I only had the first two (AZ) and decided against any future boosters. This felt like a very lonely decision last year but this year some of my friends are also saying no to the offer of a booster.
I’d also rather take the chance of relying on my immune system. I’ve avoided Covid so far.
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I hope I am not hijacking this thread, but want to ask on behalf of a friend if there are any petite ladies on here who have experienced bad side effects from their boosters. My friend is just under 5 feet and weighs about six and a half stone, maybe less. She has had all the brands over time, AstraZeneca, Pfizer and lastly Moderna, and has been really ill after all but the first one. I suggested she enquire about a child's dose for the current Moderna booster, but she did not ::). Any thoughts ladies?
Thanks.
JP x
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I've read that both underweight and obese people can be more severely affected by the virus itself so maybe this is why she has a more noticeable reaction? Also the vaccine is less effective in underweight people. I found this link though not the one I was looking for https://www.gavi.org/vaccineswork/covid-vaccines-work-well-people-all-body-weights-underweight-and-obesity-remain
Taz x
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I had the spikevax which is the Moderna 2 in 1 covid 2 and bit weeks ago. My arm at injection site was bright red and swollen felt tired for few days and felt bit sick but that was more than likely anxiety I if I had choice I would have Pfizer any day after the others I had
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One of the MP’s in the parliamentary debate talked about the film made by Oracle called ‘Safe and effective, a second opinion’.
So I had a search online and watched it. Very chilling and made me extremely sad. Quite an eye opener for me even though I knew a lot of the issues. :'(
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I've read that both underweight and obese people can be more severely affected by the virus itself so maybe this is why she has a more noticeable reaction? Also the vaccine is less effective in underweight people. I found this link though not the one I was looking for https://www.gavi.org/vaccineswork/covid-vaccines-work-well-people-all-body-weights-underweight-and-obesity-remain
Taz x
Many thanks, Taz.
JP x
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I wonder if booster is the reason why I started bleeding now. It has been 3 years since mzlast period and I have been on continuous HRT for 10 months. I had booster 3 weeks ago and then a flu jab week later. Now suddenly I have a cough, feel slightly nauseous an I think found few drops of blood. But it might be something else.
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It could be, the vaccines have affected menstrual periods and hrt. If you get the bleeding again though I would get it checkrd out anyway.
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To all those worried about the booster - maybe take a look at Indie Sage 12 myth busters about Covid. Sorry I am too rubbish at IT to provide the link. The upshot is side effects from Covid are far far worse than any potential problems with the booster. There is a lot of Anti Vaccination propaganda out there and it is scary, but I think it is misinformation. I look to see what doctors are doing - they are having the booster.
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To all those worried about the booster - maybe take a look at Indie Sage 12 myth busters about Covid. Sorry I am too rubbish at IT to provide the link. The upshot is side effects from Covid are far far worse than any potential problems with the booster. There is a lot of Anti Vaccination propaganda out there and it is scary, but I think it is misinformation. I look to see what doctors are doing - they are having the booster.
Sorry, but no. Indie Sage have a terrible reputation. Personal it took me six months to recover from my third jab. I'm not anti vac and will be having my flu one next week.
It's not propaganda or misinformation. My family knows six people who have had bad reactions, including me. Four were hospitalised and one sadly died.
Let people make up their own minds.
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Bless you Aprilflower for sharing your
story.
I had a close personal friend who died from the vaccine 10 days after. This was March 21. He told me two days after he’d taken it that he was going to die from it and I didn’t believe him.
I regret to this day I didn’t acknowledge his pain.
As Aprilflower says, it’s personal choice, but are we getting the right information to make that decision in the first place.
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I totally agree Gnatty.
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Sorry Marchlove and Aprilflower, that's so sad.
Thank you Deirdre for your comment, I will have to ring my GP,.
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It is personal choice. There are risks with everything in life including taking/not taking vaccines, but please stop talking about people dying after or so many days after the vaccine!
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It is personal choice. There are risks with everything in life including taking/not taking vaccines, but please stop talking about people dying after or so many days after the vaccine!
To be perfectly honest I wouldn't had mentioned my husband's friends death, had it not been for the post accusing propaganda and scaremongering.
By the way he had a massive stroke days after and was dead within a week. That's quick in my book.
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Aprilflower, that is so sad. I have an eldery aunt who has just had her booster a few weeks ago, and she had a stroke a week later. She has recovered to a degree but she has been admitted to the hospital one week after each of her vaccines which, to me seems a bit too much of a coincidence. I have had horrid palpitations for a year and a half now since having my first vaccine and no answer has been found. I wont take a booster. Its the long terms effects that no one can possibly have an idea about. I have had Covid and I survived so I will trust my immune system hereon in. I have a relative who works in a hospital dealing with the vaccines, she is not taking the booster. But I agree, it has to be an individual choice and because I am naturally a great worrier, the anxiety that the thought of a booster is giving me is far worse than the worry of getting Covid again. Many of my friends are choosing not to get it either so it looks as if the takeup will get less and less. In fact the chief medical officer in England only last week said flu this year is a bigger worry especially in kids.
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Looks like you and I are the same page holidaylover.
I go by personal experience, whatever the scientists say. Our own health is our own business. Sorry JoJo's gone through.
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Hi
Because im a home community care worker to keep my job here in oz i had no choice about vax really i could have moved on but love what i do...i had my vaxes and booster..even when hubby got it ..ive been fine thankfully..moderna and phizer. I got some intial soreness from first one but nothing serious
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I've had the snuffles/allergic rhinitis 48 hours after the booster. Even being away which usually settles symptoms hasn't worked :-\. I am coughing. Hard. Sneezing more often as well as having the scratch the top of my palate continually.
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Really sorry to read about those who've lost people following the vaccination, and also those who've had bad reactions. I think it's really important to share this information as it helps us to not only make more informed decisions, but to also to understand how others may be feeling about getting the vaccinations and afterwards. So thank you for being willing to share your stories.
We don't always know if there were underlying health conditions that may have affected the reactions, but knowing that people have reacted badly means we're more likely to take things seriously and seek help if we do experience any problems. I know that I've been on high alert after each vaccination, and OH and I both had off days following our first boosters so I'm planning to take it easy following our next boosters.
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Thank you Getting Old
It’s been tremendously difficult to share our stories up to now.
So I do appreciate your response to this, it means a lot so thank you x
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It is personal choice. There are risks with everything in life including taking/not taking vaccines, but please stop talking about people dying after or so many days after the vaccine!
To be perfectly honest I wouldn't had mentioned my husband's friends death, had it not been for the post accusing propaganda and scaremongering.
By the way he had a massive stroke days after and was dead within a week. That's quick in my book.
I’m with you there Aprilflower, my husband had a heart attack 5 days after the first shot.
Survived after I got him to Hospital. No previous history, no heart disease.
Ok it can happen, but to much of a coincidence for me.
These things should not be ignored.
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No possible side effects should be ignored or dismissed. We know how easy it is for professionals to dismiss hormonal upheaval ........ it's time that they were intelligent enough to listen!
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Oh golly Suziq! How awful, is he ok now?
I’m so glad my husband refused to have any jabs. He got covid very early in April 20 and announced afterwards that his immunity would be fine now and so it has proven to be.
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Thanks Marchlove, well 12 months later he’s finally off the medication.
Also came to light after the HA, that he has C L, leukemia. (He’s 68)
Apparently there is no connection. Who knows…
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Oh dear, at least they picked it up x
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suziq99 - what treatment is your DH being given?
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Oh dear, at least they picked it up x
Yes agreed.
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suziq99 - what treatment is your DH being given?
Nothing yet, it’s a wait & watch stage.
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I had 2 x AstraZenica in early 2021 and felt rough for a couple of weeks after each one while my immune system did its thing. Like having the flu. Old fashioned vaccine technology. I then had a Pfizer 'booster' last December. I had a massive nervous system reaction and the doc kept me there for an hour or so. I had instant sweats/palpitations/dizziness/felt faint/nausea and shaking. I expected it to be easy as most people I knew had no reactions. I was unwell for about 2 weeks after with the 'normal' immune response (again flu like stuff). However, the body aches carried on for months after the other symptoms and so much so my doc ran a battery of tests and found nothing. By the middle of this year I was better.
So I REALLY can't decide what to do - I'm in my mid 50s and don't have any heart/BP/diabetic conditions, don't drink or smoke etc. I do have a couple of autoimmune conditions though. I am going to speak to my GP and ask for her advice. I'm very small and light and often have a half dose of things like antibiotics etc.
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HellsBells, I wonder if a child's dose of the vaccine would be possible. I have a friend in the same situation, very small and light, and very ill after all her covid boosters of any make. I suggested this to her but don't think she's done anything about it yet. It would be interesting to hear what your GP suggests.
JP x
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If we knew if a reaction was 'good' or ill advised it might help make an informed decision ::)
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I've been meaning to post. We had the latest jab about 2 weeks ago, Pfizer bivalent. OH developed flu about 3 days afterwards and is still recovering, whilst I've been OK apart from feeling very out of it at times, and a bit sniffly and lethargic, but that may also be a bit of OH's flu :-\
The previous booster we both had a day where we were extremely lethargic, couldn't get out of bed, but fine apart from that.
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HellsBells, I wonder if a child's dose of the vaccine would be possible. I have a friend in the same situation, very small and light, and very ill after all her covid boosters of any make. I suggested this to her but don't think she's done anything about it yet. It would be interesting to hear what your GP suggests.
JP x
I was told after I reacted badly to the Moderna booster that it was only a third of a dose.
If someone is going to react I think the size of the dose is immaterial.
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Thanks Joaniepat and Aprilflower both interesting comments. I have a telephone appointment with my GP this week to discuss and I'll post if she has any interesting insights. I had considered a child's dose but not sure how it would work in terms of reactions. I will return....
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To all those worried about the booster - maybe take a look at Indie Sage 12 myth busters about Covid. Sorry I am too rubbish at IT to provide the link. The upshot is side effects from Covid are far far worse than any potential problems with the booster. There is a lot of Anti Vaccination propaganda out there and it is scary, but I think it is misinformation. I look to see what doctors are doing - they are having the booster.
MRN
There is more and more information becoming available about mRNA Covid shots and how the narrative has been very much dictated by those supporting big pharma, while silencing any debate (real science relies on debate). Dr Aseem Malhotra had the shot live on TV when they were first available but has since changed his tune on his own further research. He's also in the Safe and Effective documentary that @Marchlove was talking about. His research can be found here https://insulinresistance.org/index.php/jir/article/view/71/221 (https://insulinresistance.org/index.php/jir/article/view/71/221) and https://insulinresistance.org/index.php/jir/article/view/72 (https://insulinresistance.org/index.php/jir/article/view/72)
Also, this link is a biostatistician's summary of Pfizer's clinical trials. https://t.co/jCVYG5gnDi (https://t.co/jCVYG5gnDi)
It's only fair that everyone has as much information as possible to make your own conclusions and decide on whether to take their shots or not, rather than it being forced on you. That's what any uncoerced medical treatment involves. Even Pfizer's own data shows that efficacy becomes negative after a few weeks, which means that people are more likely to be infected by covid and explains why people have been getting infected again and again. It's also proven that it doesn't stop transmission of covid and the governments of the world aren't interested in investigating the significant increase in all cause (non-covid) deaths across every age group over the last year or so. It's all rather fishy imo. I personally chose not to vaccinate because I react wildly to most things and because the long term data wasn't there. Knowing what I now know, I'm happy I didn't. I haven't had Covid but on my head be it if does happen.
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I wonder what Ben Goldacre says ???
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@CLKD Just had a look at Ben Goldacre and he doesn't seem to have reported on his bad science website since 2017 and can't find anything about what he says about the covid vaccine since 2021. He was involved in 2 papers that show vaccine effectiveness waning quickly https://www.bmj.com/content/378/bmj-2021-068946 (https://www.bmj.com/content/378/bmj-2021-068946) and https://www.bmj.com/content/378/bmj-2022-071249 (https://www.bmj.com/content/378/bmj-2022-071249). Bearing in mind he has been in the employ of the govt and therefore has to be careful about anything that might jeopardise his funding, the fact that he said NOTHING about the vaccines in over an a year, I think speaks volumes. Just my own opinion obviously. These days we seem to be able to find more truth by reading between the lines. It's so frustrating.