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Menopause Discussion => Other Health Discussion => Topic started by: CLKD on September 18, 2017, 07:56:24 PM
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I know this has been discussed here but how long is it likely to be B4 a person feels benefit once taking tablets?
Is it the case that the longer the body has been depleted the longer it will be for the body to re-adjust?
Thanks.
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If blood tests show a low vit d level, then it takes 7 weeks taking very high prescribed vit d tablets, a further blood test and then vit d/calcium tablets to maintain. Or lots of sunshine!
Bramble
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Mum is on a tablet twice a week for 7 weeks then she has to buy her own packets. Apparently ::) but she won't tell me which tablets that the GP has prescribed so I can't find out what exactly: then she keeps asking why she feels 'so ill'. :'(. I've taken a step back .......
She told me earlier in the year that she was 'going to stop eating to see how many people notice that I'm losing weight' ..... you really couldn't write it!!
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My dad stops phoning people to see if they will notice and phone him ;)
I took 25ug/1000iu which is the Higher Strength from Sainsbugs for 6 weeks and felt a definite difference. I do find that I have to keep taking them though. You can get 10ug/400iu which is the current RDA but there is no harm in taking the higher strength ones. Sometimes you can be given much, much higher doses by the GP.
Most supermarkets sell a RDA and higher strength one. I think it happened after a judge recommended cheap supplements made readily available after a case where a baby had rickets ended up in court.
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Tnx.
What is it with your Dad ::)
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I don't know - social skills were never his strong point ::)
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Like he - and my Mum - are the only pebbles on the beach? Maybe find a beach they could sit on together ;)
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Desert Island? ;)
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I've bought some after it was mentioned on here the other day, so thank you xxx
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They wouldn't agree on their 8 records though dahliagirl ::)
Do you take your supplement daily Lil22?
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I have re-started my VitD. After Mum's diagnosis I had similar symptoms: would do 20 mins. gardening then sit, not moving at all, for 2 hours :-\
We've had colds. Coughing well. I feel knackered. So decided that adding VitD won't hurt for a few weeks.
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I've taken supplements 3 times over the last two years but it was the third strongest dose (22,000 per day for 15 days then one a month for 6 months) that worked the quickest.
I really felt like I was low again recently as had all the symptoms but a blood test showed my levels are now good but have been advised to still take one 22,000 IU a month.
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Sorry, just checked it's 20,000 IU. The first two lots of supplements were a very low dose that I had to take each day for 3 months but when I got tested again earlier this year, it had got worse so I was prescribed this 15 day one then one a month and it made a huge difference. I know quite a few people who have had the same dose. I think it's if your level is below 30.
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I take a high dose daily
DLux 3000iU I think - but it's a spray so I get better absorption
I ws 26, my daughter was 24
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How do we have 2 threads :-\ isn't this one good enough >:(
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How do we have 2 threads :-\ isn't this one good enough >:(
You're the thread police 😛🤣
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It seems illogical to me why members don't check by doing a search B4 starting a new thread. I remember the days of dial up when it would have been impossible ..........
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It does matter to me. Otherwise ideas and experiences may become lost! and I was FIRST :na:
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I found that out but putting VitD Levels worked ;) - however, I have looked 4 my own threads on occasions and they simply don't appear >:( and I can't find the other VitD thread either ::)
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How do we have 2 threads :-\ isn't this one good enough >:(
You're the thread police 😛🤣
I've noticed 😆😂
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The other Vit D thread is in Personal Experiences.
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Tnx :D
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Hopefully the capsules will ease my feelings of tiredness and boost me enough to get rid of this cold!
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I take a Fultium D3 800iu capsule daily, I was diagnosed with low Vit D which is not uncommon in Scotland and I think the UK as our lack of sunshine means that we don't get enough from natural sources ie Sunshine 😀 especially in the winter in fact it has been suggested that the government was thinking about recommending that it should be something that all adults and children take especially in the winter I'm quite happy to take this dosage on a daily basis it works for me, obviously depending on results of individual blood tests etc some people might need more
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That's the 1. But I forgot to take it for 3 days :-\ due to being busy >sigh<
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It's easy to do life just gets in the way sometimes :) but you'll catch up!
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I have just put myself back on vitD.
I take vitabiotics ultra vitamin D 1000it.
It says on the packet optimum level.
I bought mine in boots but I think you can get them in some supermarkets.
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>wave< Dyan
Tnx Green .......
Back home to our routine so note to self ;)
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>wave< CLKD
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I need to begin my capsules now that we are home as well as getting into the :sunny: more often ;)
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I know this has been discussed here but how long is it likely to be B4 a person feels benefit once taking tablets?
Is it the case that the longer the body has been depleted the longer it will be for the body to re-adjust?
Thanks.
I like many was deficient years ago, I knew before the doctor did. In fact he told me that only elderly people in nursing homes get d deficient. Times have changed and it's now a well known epidemic.
I started takkg 10,000 IUs a day.
Sadly I did not notice any difference to my crappy immune system five months later when I was at 80 serum levels.
It's important you take K2 with D it converts the D into the bones. Otherwise it calcifies in your organs if you're taking high doses especially.
Also D3 needs magnesium. It uses what ever you have in your reserve so if you don't take magnesium and take D3 it will rape your supplies making you magnesium deficient
X
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Better You do a vit D+K2 oral spray.highly recommend.it by passes the liver etc just spray into mouth daily much better absorbed you can get on Amazon.😘DD
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Do you need to take K2 and magnesium with the low RDA supermarket brands of vit D ?
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With regard to K2, I must admit it doubted it necessity as a supplement, because I could not find any reliable info about it. I have now done another search and have found some which indicates is it at least necessary for some people.
https://www.healthline.com/nutrition/vitamin-k2#sources
If you read this it shows that most research has be 'observational', which is great as a social science tool but is only useful as a first step is medical science. There are just too many variables. Where the study group live, what they eat, do they drink/smoke, etc., In fact what is eaten is very important as K2 is missing from many peoples diets but as the article shows you really need to be either vegetarian, vegan, non dairy or on a low fat diet to be deficient. The problem with non grass feed live stock does not apply to the UK. There is a very good link on the web page which gives a comprehensive list of K2 high foods.
Personally I think I eat plenty of the foodstuffs for good K2 intake, so I will not supplement, but I can see that there may be some that do need it.
Shadyglade
PS Welcome back Englishrose :)
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Better You do a vit D+K2 oral spray.highly recommend.it by passes the liver etc just spray into mouth daily much better absorbed you can get on Amazon.😘DD
Agreed I use liquid drops 2000 IUs per drop with k2 in it. Off Amazon
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Completely agree Englishrose, shame doctors don't tell you the bit about K2 and magnesium and just prescribe D3 but then it's the cheap option I suppose.
It is especially bad when they prescribe 50,000 IUs a week. But then nutrition is very much outside of a GPs training
My own doctor cut me off mid sentence with “I'm not trained in nutritionâ€
It's a good job I did my own research then! 😁
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Do you think it applies to those with absorption problems too SG? I base y requirements on the fact that I have digestive issues and have to take lansoprazole which cuts down the acid in my stomach. If taken long term it's recommended you have your magnesium levels checked so it makes me wonder if other nutrients could be depleted too. The one I take contains D3, K2, magnesium, zinc and boron. The thing is the GP never suggests checking magnesium, I have to ask and I've only asked once in the 6 years I've been taking it which was a year after I started taking it. Since I was diagnosed with low Vit D a few years ago after the initial prescribed supplement (d3) for three months I've just carried it on myself with the combined one and have managed to maintain a good level of the D. I must remember to ask for a recheck of the magnesium out of interest.
Hi sparkle,
I am doing my Gallic shrug now because I don't know the answer to your question. I assume that due to absorption problems, you probably do. However, as far as I know there is no developed test for K2 levels and no optimum level established. Also I have read that people with blood clotting issues/take blood clotting medication, should check before they take it.
Don't get me wrong I am pro supplementation in general. I take a multi vitamin (half dose) which has Vit D (100% in the half dose), Magnesium (again low dose) and one for my eyesight who's name I forget. The problems is, like with any health issue, it's very individual. I know we all can be vitamin deficient as we get older but I am of the 'top up' school of thought, and not mega doses. Vitamins can cause problems such as calcium, which is now know to be ineffective and possible harmful as a supplement.
None of us is an expert on here so I would be guided by your own health knowledge, research, your doctor and gut instinct.
Not easy is it. ::)
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Do you think it applies to those with absorption problems too SG? I base y requirements on the fact that I have digestive issues and have to take lansoprazole which cuts down the acid in my stomach. If taken long term it's recommended you have your magnesium levels checked so it makes me wonder if other nutrients could be depleted too. The one I take contains D3, K2, magnesium, zinc and boron. The thing is the GP never suggests checking magnesium, I have to ask and I've only asked once in the 6 years I've been taking it which was a year after I started taking it. Since I was diagnosed with low Vit D a few years ago after the initial prescribed supplement (d3) for three months I've just carried it on myself with the combined one and have managed to maintain a good level of the D. I must remember to ask for a recheck of the magnesium out of interest.
Hi sparkle,
I am doing my Gallic shrug now because I don't know the answer to your question. I assume that due to absorption problems, you probably do. However, as far as I know there is no developed test for K2 levels and no optimum level established. Also I have read that people with blood clotting issues/take blood clotting medication, should check before they take it.
Don't get me wrong I am pro supplementation in general. I take a multi vitamin (half dose) which has Vit D (100% in the half dose), Magnesium (again low dose) and one for my eyesight who's name I forget. The problems is, like with any health issue, it's very individual. I know we all can be vitamin deficient as we get older but I am of the 'top up' school of thought, and not mega doses. Vitamins can cause problems such as calcium, which is now know to be ineffective and possible harmful as a supplement.
None of us is an expert on here so I would be guided by your own health knowledge, research, your doctor and gut instinct.
Not easy is it. ::)
I won't take a multi bc there's things in there we don't need or may not agree with us.. it is hard.
Ideally vegetable juice is s good way forward. I did that for a while.. maybe I'll fimd the motivation to get back into it again.
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I posted a while ago about fatigue. Was diagnosed by a blood text as deficient in Vit D. Been on colecalciferol (20micrograms per day) for about three weeks, but still can hardly do anything without major fatigue.
I do eat fish and eggs quite a lot and I do go out in the sunshine, so why could I have this deficiency?
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It's very common in temperant regions. It's a combination of lack of sunshine though the winter, use of sun cream and probably individual genetics. Don't forget that we spend a lot of time indoors, even in the summer, compared to our ancestors.
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It takes a while for the uptake of VitD ........ I noticed an improvement in about 3 weeks. Exercise boosts morale too so on clear days, get out for a brisk walk?