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[Vicky81]

Whilst I agree CLKD - no NHS doctor will prescribe utrogestan in doses that supress.

Just like no doctor will prescribe my 1.5 cerazette. But my GP is aware that I am trying this as I'm so desperate for relief.

Some of us are so outside the realms of 'mainstream' that we need to think outside the box. And often have to lead on this. I do wish it weren't like this. But it's the reason we are on this forum.

Vicky - there are plenty FB groups that discuss high doses of utrogestan. X

So whyvwont the gp prescri e utrogesten to suppress? Does it have to be a gynae? Cos im seeing one on wed

[CrispyChick]

I mean, you might find one that does. But utrogestan is used to protect the endometrium as part of HRT in the NHS at uni supressing doses. End of.

What u and I are trying to do, is find suppression with tools most doctors don't use in this way.

You'll be much better asking the gynae.

That's why I came hack on CLKD's response. It's not helpful folk saying ask your doctor. You and I are here having to pay out a lot of money to ask doctors...and even then, we might not be helped.

There is nothing wrong with asking on this forum - someone may have been through it before. It's not like you can take mega doses of utrogestan without a doctor prescribing it anyway. But sometimes WE need to lead the doctor to let us try something!

Ask away Vicky!

[CLKD]

I would suggest by-passing the Gynaecologist and seeing a dedicated menopause specialist. 

Vicky81 - there should be a Nurse Practitioner at your surgery if the GP isn't clear in what can be prescribed in the NHS - she should be able to listen, advise and direct. We are not medics on here and it does seem that not many Members have had the problems that U and CrispyChick are experiencing. 

Have U read the information at the top in the pink line = Menopause, Treatments etc.? 

[Mary G]

I mean, you might find one that does. But utrogestan is used to protect the endometrium as part of HRT in the NHS at uni supressing doses. End of.

What u and I are trying to do, is find suppression with tools most doctors don't use in this way.

You'll be much better asking the gynae.

That's why I came hack on CLKD's response. It's not helpful folk saying ask your doctor. You and I are here having to pay out a lot of money to ask doctors...and even then, we might not be helped.

There is nothing wrong with asking on this forum - someone may have been through it before. It's not like you can take mega doses of utrogestan without a doctor prescribing it anyway. But sometimes WE need to lead the doctor to let us try something!

Ask away Vicky!

Agreed, there is nothing wrong with asking on the forum, that's what it's for particularly as so many women on here have clueless doctors who have virtually zero knowledge of the menopause and HRT. 

Time and time again we have women on here who are getting no help whatsoever from their GP, they often can't afford private menopause treatment and they are barely holding it together (many have had to give up work) so they come here for advice and I personally feel duty bound to offer it. 

CLKD, when you suggest women seek help from a menopause specialist I hope you mean a private specialist because the NHS menopause clinics are oversubscribed with waiting lists of up to a year which is about as much good as a chocolate teapot for someone who is desperate.

Vicky, Utrogestan is not a good choice for suppressing FSH and LH.  Synthetic progesterone is far more potent.

Why did you stop the Cerazette?

[CrispyChick]

Indeed Mary. .

Yes clkd there are less woman in this hell hole that Vicky and I find ourselves in. Lucky them!

But I've had some great help and ideas over the years and, quite frankly, I doubt I'd still be here if I'd simply stuck with the NHS.

It is forums like this that give us hope. Other women's real experiences and advice.

I've had plenty private messages from woman who have been through hell. They dont all public ally post (can't think why?!) And the topic 'can peri really make me this ill' was enlightening.

Those that cant help, generally scroll past, or leave some nice supportive comments. 

There is no need to continually post on someone's thread to tell them to seek medical advice. Of course they are doing that too. But it takes time. My specialist (paid for appointment) is in Jan. But I'm in a desperate state right now. Why should I not post, seek support and possibly some new ideas?

And, lordy, why on earth can Vicky not??? She's already been blocked from creating new posts. Enough harm done to this poor lass.

She simply asked a question!!!!

[CLKD]

Getting onto a dedicated waiting list for both NHS and Private, of which there are long waits, is important.  Also being able to take a 'cancellation' slot at short notice might help.

Sadly all waiting lists are long these days ........... due to not enough GPs at Surgeries = worried people going to A&E .  There R no inter-hospital referrals either, every 1 has to be 'referred back to GP' which means more waiting lists, instead of being treated between specialities where necessary.  No wonder the. NHS can't meet government targets! 

[Ayesha]

Indeed Mary. .

Yes clkd there are less woman in this hell hole that Vicky and I find ourselves in. Lucky them!

But I've had some great help and ideas over the years and, quite frankly, I doubt I'd still be here if I'd simply stuck with the NHS.

It is forums like this that give us hope. Other women's real experiences and advice.

I've had plenty private messages from woman who have been through hell. They dont all public ally post (can't think why?!) And the topic 'can peri really make me this ill' was enlightening.

Those that cant help, generally scroll past, or leave some nice supportive comments. 

There is no need to continually post on someone's thread to tell them to seek medical advice. Of course they are doing that too. But it takes time. My specialist (paid for appointment) is in Jan. But I'm in a desperate state right now. Why should I not post, seek support and possibly some new ideas?

And, lordy, why on earth can Vicky not??? She's already been blocked from creating new posts. Enough harm done to this poor lass.

She simply asked a question!!!!

Well said Crispy, no one should be cross examined, given the third degree on this forum when desperately looking for answers and finding they have to step outside the box when conventional treatment doesn't work. I've learned that for myself and thankfully I have young GP's that agree, they like the fact because of social media patients are well educated on matters HRT. 

As for Vicky, she has history on the forum from three years ago where she took over the threads with demands and rants and shouting for attention. Its not the way to behave on a forum.

[Minusminnie]

Anyone feeling at their very worst may not post in a way to suit others is that not understandable ?

I’ve noticed that often an afternoon/evening post differs from one posted in the morning or early hours of the night.

[Vicky81]

Just needed alot of help at that time I dont remember shouting that's not me.....desperation id say.
I dont hurt anyone at all.
I dont like seeing anyone hurt or treated unfairly.
But when anxiety and desperation take over it hurts your soul and all you eant is that comfort.
I'd never do harm to anyone.

[Vicky81]

Sorry yes it is a menk specialist im seeing via the computer on wed. My partner paid for it i just asked him .

[Vicky81]

Sorry yes it is a meno specialist im seeing via the computer on wed. My partner paid for it i just asked him .