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[CLKD]

I expect that Education Authorities will fine parents ........ which in my opinion should stop anyway.

I had anxiety even B4 I went to school.  Also Big School is now much bigger than when I was in education.  It didn't lead well to Interviews either  ........ but transition doesn't happen in the real world  . 

From Stay at Home Keep the NHS Safe - to putting children back into school.  Parents at the gates, kids on buses/transport ........ all possible transmitters of the virus?

[Sparrow]

No, there will be no fines until September.

[CLKD]

I supported [ ? supposed ? ]  DH whilst he went to Uni., on ?14.00 a week and a Grant 

Pupils were often kept back a year in Infant and Primary School.  Heads didn't have to accept pupils if they didn't reach a specific standard. We were streamed so that no one felt under stress by being in a group that they weren't suited for.  Those that caught up in senior school were promoted in the appropriate stream.  Job Done.

I can't understand why parents have children then dump them with others to raise  they miss so much interaction during their formative years.

[Barnacle]

CrispyChick, i completely understand your concerns about your DS and moving up schools. 3 years ago my two went from a very small village primary to a bigger than average secondary school. Even  without the usual transition days, i'm sure that they will try to put some plans in place, so that the new pupils do get more time to settle. I hope it goes ok for him x

 

[CrispyChick]

Thank you Barnacle.

I'm in two minds about the whole thing. He is very happy and content at home. Being away from school and peers has resulted in an 'out of sight, out of mind' scenario, so he is actually less stressed about the whole high school thing just now. But, ultimately, I know he needs the benefit of some transition.

What will be, will be. I have faith that schools will make it work. Like I say, I just wish Sturgeon would share her thinking. At least then we could all make things work, whichever way they turn out.

[CLKD]

Is your son in touch with his Peer group at all?  Are they able to share how they are feeling?  Maybe it's not 'macho' but perhaps you could give your son a scenario when you had to face change, how you felt, how it worked out, who you shared your worries with.

Mum would say 'you'll be alright when you get there' and I was.  But that did NOT help how I felt leading up to an event  . 

[Kathleen]

Hello ladies.

If my children were school age now I would keep them at home until September.  We are nearly at the Summer holidays and by the Autumn we will have a better idea about how the virus is spreading.

 I'm concerned that we don't yet have adequate plans in place to replace the Lockdown. Today I noticed that many trades people were back at work and none of them were social distancing. I hope we don't have another rise in cases in two weeks time as a result.

Wishing you well ladies.

K.

[Yorkshire Girl]

The problem is if parents have to start going back to work what happens to the children, if not in school? Parents are already pulling their hair out trying to home school & some are having to work from home as well. When the summer holidays come round that's another 6 weeks of having to keep them entertained. You're dammed if you do and dammed if you don't. So glad I'm not in this position.

[jillydoll]

Did anyone watch that science program last night on ITV ( I think)
They said it could be another 12 months of living like this.
No sign of a vaccine yet. it's something we have to adjust to, because life has to go on.
And, a professor said, there WILL be more pandemics like this one in the future, virus's they know nothing about yet. Virus's that jump from animals to human. They just don't know when. it's a scary thought!

[jillydoll]

Yeah, don't think the ?norm? will be for a long time yet.
I'm getting used to staying in. I loved going out, shopping, etc, but the worry is just too much. Yet when I see people, ( like next door neighbours) all getting together and having people round, I question myself. Am I over reacting? I have an underlying health worry, and I'm scared to go out because of it, maybe I?ll undo all my hard work up to now and catch it!
Maybe I won't. 🤷‍♀️ After seeing my OH with it, it scares me to death!
I know a little of how your feeling Theresa, but it must be terrifying for you with the cancer too. There's only one option, you have to keep yourself as safe as you can, just keep thinking, one day, this will all be over. And maybe a new way of doing things WILL be our ?norm? .
Don't let this beat us, we have to carry on, we've people who love us, we have to for them.
xxxxx

[Kathleen]

Hello again ladies.

The likelihood  of other viruses  infecting humans is increased by the way we keep animals. Factory farms and wet markets act like petri dishes for developing mutations.  If we can change our method of food production we can have much better control of disease spread.

Apparently in Malaysia a few years ago a factory farm that kept pigs had an outbreak of a new disease and many of the workers died. The government were quick to act and destroyed the pigs and the factory. I can't remember the the name of the virus but the scientists involved calculated a death rate for humans of 40%.

Hopefully many lessons will be learned  and we can find ways to prevent another pandemic or at least be able to contain it.

Take care ladies and stay safe.

K.

[Sparrow]

Just to be clear, the term 'Wet Market'  just means frest produce, eg  meat, fish, vegetables etc.,

It's constantly being misused in the media and causing confusion.

[Kathleen]

Hello again ladies.

I thought 'wet market' was the right description for markets selling live animals, I had no idea it meant more than that. Just goes to show how an inappropriate term can stick!  Not great when we need to be as accurate as possible to deal with the virus.

Wishing you well ladies.

K.

[Sparrow]

Exactly right Kathleen.  The trouble is we tend to look at things like this from a first world perspective.  Unfortunately in much of the third world there is often limited or little electricity, so no refrigeration, and no supermarket, particularly in rural areas.  The selling of 'live' food is therefore a necessity, and not something that can just be changed by legislation.  It's a problem of poverty, as is the Bush meat trade.

Even if it could be stopped there will always be close contact between people and animals, wild and domestic, in rural Asia, Africa, South America etc.,  If I remember rightly 60% of the known virus in humans originated in animals.  It's just not possible to separate the two completely.  Also, the eating of animals is not the danger, it's the handling whether dead or alive.

I don't think there is a simple solution to this problem.

Update - I have just read that the authorities on Wuhan have now officially banned the selling, eating and breeding of wild animals.  This is of course great news.  However the cynic in me thinks it will just drive the trade under ground.

[sheila99]

It's well known diseases can spread rapidly when animals are factory farmed. We don't seem to have worked out the same thing happens when people live in similar conditions.