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Author Topic: LATEST UPDATE FROM BRITISH MENOPAUSE SOCIETY ON HRT SHORTAGES 26 NOV 2019  (Read 479 times)

Hurdity

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 ***LATEST UPDATE FROM BRITISH MENOPAUSE SOCIETY ON HRT SHORTAGES ***as at 26th Nov


Hi there everyone

Thought I would post this as a separate update which I found while searching for something else this morning! I have posted it on the long-running thread but may get lost amongst all the individual reports about specific HRT types and personal queries....

https://thebms.org.uk/2019/11/british-menopause-society-further-update-on-hrt-supply-shortages-26-november-2019/

Very comprehensive list it is too - so looks like the situation may well improve soon judging by the dates on the list - fingers crossed!

Great to know they are on the job (BMS!).

Hurdity x



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Dotty

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Re: LATEST UPDATE FROM BRITISH MENOPAUSE SOCIETY ON HRT SHORTAGES 26 NOV 2019
« Reply #1 on: November 30, 2019, 11:42:08 AM »

Thanks, Hurdity.  Fingers crossed it gets better xx
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Dandelion

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Re: LATEST UPDATE FROM BRITISH MENOPAUSE SOCIETY ON HRT SHORTAGES 26 NOV 2019
« Reply #2 on: November 30, 2019, 02:47:35 PM »

***LATEST UPDATE FROM BRITISH MENOPAUSE SOCIETY ON HRT SHORTAGES ***as at 26th Nov


Hi there everyone

Thought I would post this as a separate update which I found while searching for something else this morning! I have posted it on the long-running thread but may get lost amongst all the individual reports about specific HRT types and personal queries....

https://thebms.org.uk/2019/11/british-menopause-society-further-update-on-hrt-supply-shortages-26-november-2019/

Very comprehensive list it is too - so looks like the situation may well improve soon judging by the dates on the list - fingers crossed!

Great to know they are on the job (BMS!).

Hurdity x
Thanks Hurdity
Why is utrogestan on the Red List in many areas if there is no shortage?
sorry for the question.
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Age 52.
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Was on Femoston 1/10 from and 2/10 didn't do anything to help, possibly due to IBS affecting absorption, but just my guess.
Went onto evorel patches 27/10/14, starting with 0.50mcg, but needed 100mcg to take away flushes etc, plus utrogestan 200mg, day 15 - 26.

Hurdity

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Re: LATEST UPDATE FROM BRITISH MENOPAUSE SOCIETY ON HRT SHORTAGES 26 NOV 2019
« Reply #3 on: November 30, 2019, 03:23:13 PM »

Dandelion I'll answer on the Utrogestan availability thread  as you've posted there too :)

Hurdity x
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Lola50

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Re: LATEST UPDATE FROM BRITISH MENOPAUSE SOCIETY ON HRT SHORTAGES 26 NOV 2019
« Reply #4 on: November 30, 2019, 03:52:39 PM »

Hurdity, I see Duavive has been discontinued as of August 2018. You mentioned that yesterday on my Premarin post,  so now we know the future of that one!

I'm relieved to see no problems with Premarin still across the board - if it works out for me then that will be good news!

Fingers crossed everything starts to improve on all products soon so that ladies struggling can get back to some kind of normality.
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Hurdity

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Re: LATEST UPDATE FROM BRITISH MENOPAUSE SOCIETY ON HRT SHORTAGES 26 NOV 2019
« Reply #5 on: November 30, 2019, 03:59:12 PM »

That's funny Lola50 becaise I have just this minute posted an update about this on one of the Duavive threads and now just seen yours!

Hurdity x
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Lola50

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Re: LATEST UPDATE FROM BRITISH MENOPAUSE SOCIETY ON HRT SHORTAGES 26 NOV 2019
« Reply #6 on: November 30, 2019, 04:50:09 PM »

I always had a 'feeling' about Duavive that it wouldn't be around for long, Hurdity. It always seemed like a step backwards to me in the current trend forward of moving into developing new bioidenticals. We need more options on those! I had heard a whisper that we may be able to get the Estradiol transdermal spray soon? If so, that would be a marvellous option for women to try.
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Re: LATEST UPDATE FROM BRITISH MENOPAUSE SOCIETY ON HRT SHORTAGES 26 NOV 2019
« Reply #7 on: December 01, 2019, 10:28:08 AM »

Thanks Hurdity, really appreciate you sharing these updates with us. x
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Re: LATEST UPDATE FROM BRITISH MENOPAUSE SOCIETY ON HRT SHORTAGES 26 NOV 2019
« Reply #8 on: December 01, 2019, 11:34:50 AM »

Fab news, fingers crossed xx
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Hurdity

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Re: LATEST UPDATE FROM BRITISH MENOPAUSE SOCIETY ON HRT SHORTAGES 26 NOV 2019
« Reply #9 on: December 03, 2019, 08:03:02 PM »

I always had a 'feeling' about Duavive that it wouldn't be around for long, Hurdity. It always seemed like a step backwards to me in the current trend forward of moving into developing new bioidenticals. We need more options on those! I had heard a whisper that we may be able to get the Estradiol transdermal spray soon? If so, that would be a marvellous option for women to try.

Hi Lola

I wrote to the manufacturers re Lenzetto and reported their response in full on this thread:
https://www.menopausematters.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,39420.0.html

In a nutshell they said:

"This product is licenced in the UK, but not launched.  Launch is expected early in 2020, so watch this space"

Hurdity x
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Lola50

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Re: LATEST UPDATE FROM BRITISH MENOPAUSE SOCIETY ON HRT SHORTAGES 26 NOV 2019
« Reply #10 on: December 03, 2019, 10:57:47 PM »

Thankyou Hurdity.😊

This is the rumour that I'd heard....so it's looking hopeful by the sound of things. 👍

Do you think you'd give this a try yourself? It's tempting, as it sounds easy to use and I have read a few reports of users Stateside on it (women who have also had oophorectomy, like myself).

We tend to find that because Estradiol has a relatively short half life that daily dosing of transdermals like the gels can be a bit iffy for getting stability. Some are OK, but for those who are sensitive to ups and downs like myself with my migraine situation it is a bit too rocky and split dosing is better, but not as good as having a relatively stable dose as with patches.

Dosing gels more than once a day is a pain in the proverbial too - especially with waiting for it to dry before covering the area.

With the Lenzetto, it's more 'spray and go', so it could be easily achieved to apply more than once if needed and quite discrete if you are on the go.

I know some women get the heebies about applying to arms as it's closer to the breasts, but women I have communicated with in the States say that this is not a worry due to the immediate drying of the product so much less risk of accidental transfer. I'd be interested to hear your thoughts on this.

More options are definitely welcome here - especially with how awful the situation has been this past year with supply issues!

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Hurdity

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Re: LATEST UPDATE FROM BRITISH MENOPAUSE SOCIETY ON HRT SHORTAGES 26 NOV 2019
« Reply #11 on: December 04, 2019, 08:04:11 PM »

Thankyou Hurdity.😊

This is the rumour that I'd heard....so it's looking hopeful by the sound of things. 👍

Do you think you'd give this a try yourself? It's tempting, as it sounds easy to use and I have read a few reports of users Stateside on it (women who have also had oophorectomy, like myself).

We tend to find that because Estradiol has a relatively short half life that daily dosing of transdermals like the gels can be a bit iffy for getting stability. Some are OK, but for those who are sensitive to ups and downs like myself with my migraine situation it is a bit too rocky and split dosing is better, but not as good as having a relatively stable dose as with patches.

Dosing gels more than once a day is a pain in the proverbial too - especially with waiting for it to dry before covering the area.

With the Lenzetto, it's more 'spray and go', so it could be easily achieved to apply more than once if needed and quite discrete if you are on the go.

I know some women get the heebies about applying to arms as it's closer to the breasts, but women I have communicated with in the States say that this is not a worry due to the immediate drying of the product so much less risk of accidental transfer. I'd be interested to hear your thoughts on this.

More options are definitely welcome here - especially with how awful the situation has been this past year with supply issues!

Hi Lola50 - I haven't really looked into it (the spray) as yet so have no thoughts  ::) !! However although I know it will be unbelievably convenient I worry about squirting the stuff into the air ( I know it's supposed to be applied directly onto your skin but some will surely escape?). Also I wonder about the pharmacokinetics in the body -  ie how the product is absorbed and excreted over time by the body? I wonder if there might be rapid absorption and then decline although I am sure the pre-launch trials will have looked into this? If it didn't work then it wouldn't have passed the efficacy trials. At some point I'll read about it but would reply on a Lenzetto thread!

Hurdity x
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Re: LATEST UPDATE FROM BRITISH MENOPAUSE SOCIETY ON HRT SHORTAGES 26 NOV 2019
« Reply #12 on: December 04, 2019, 11:06:17 PM »

Thanks Hurdity. Very useful.

Taz x   :)
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Lola50

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Re: LATEST UPDATE FROM BRITISH MENOPAUSE SOCIETY ON HRT SHORTAGES 26 NOV 2019
« Reply #13 on: December 05, 2019, 12:15:13 AM »

Hi again, Hurdity.

I just googled some pictures of Lenzetto, and it has an ingenious little 'cup' on the end that you hold to the skin and then spray, which seems to address the issue of any spray escaping into the air quite neatly!

The developers of this product have obviously put some real thought into the design and delivery of it, but you are absolutely right - will it peak and trough quickly? Does it create a 'reservoir' over time as Estrogel is (alleged) to do? I guess we can't know until we actually have this product and try it - the proof is in the pudding, as they say. 💜
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Lanzalover

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Re: LATEST UPDATE FROM BRITISH MENOPAUSE SOCIETY ON HRT SHORTAGES 26 NOV 2019
« Reply #14 on: December 05, 2019, 12:51:32 AM »

Thanks for the update Hurdity

I am currently using Lenzetto ( purchased in Spain) and as Lola50 has said it's quite an ingenious little thing. Due to design (it's sort of cone shaped)none of the product escapes and it's nearly dry by time you lift it off your arm.

It's applied on the inner forearm between your wrist and elbow or can be applied on your thigh,I put it on my inner arm near to wrist and it's completely dry in seconds.
For me it works exactly the same as the gel but I have only been using it for about 4 weeks so far.

I would give serious consideration to swapping to this product when it's available on the NHS as there's no hanging around waiting for it dry and none of the hassle of trying to remove the residue of patches etc it's a much more user friendly product.

Lanzalover x



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