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Machair

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Re: Mucus and Staining /Spotting
« Reply #540 on: January 24, 2017, 02:06:38 PM »

Sparkle when did you skip your first ever period and when did you first notice a change in your cycles? I was regular until I was 53 then I skipped then the trouble started!
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coldethyl

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« Reply #541 on: January 24, 2017, 03:06:26 PM »

I don't comment on here but always have a read. Just to say ER, thinking of you. Many years ago when I was very stressed my ECG threw up some evidence of arrythmia at the surgery- GP rushed me into hospital as BP up and he thought I needed an urgent echocardiogram - they stuck me on a 24hr holter and my heart did somersaults all night - I was sure that was it and I'd be off to heart hospital for surgery as GP had muttered stuff about mitral valve issues and murmurs but no- cardiologist said it was all fine and stress related- like you i had the heavy chest feeling and sometimes it felt like i was going to faint from lack of oxygen but it turned out to be nothing so fingers crossed the same is true for you. I had ten years without any problems but as soon as I hit peri the palpitations set off again and I tend to get them just before a flush xx
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Elizabethrose

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« Reply #542 on: January 24, 2017, 03:59:38 PM »

Thank you so much lovely ladies!!

Sparkle, thank you for the kind words, yep hopefully a storm in a teacup! ETT is like an ECG but on a treadmill, they want to stress the heart to see how it reacts. Hopefully they'll have a gorgeous George Clooney lookalike waiting to rush in and proffer mouth to mouth when I keel over!  ;) x

Coldethyl, how kind you are stopping to comment when you have all the problems you're experiencing at the moment. Thank you so much x

It's reassuring to hear of your experience ending up to be nothing serious. I too was rushed in to A and E about 5 years ago because docs were anxious I was having a heart attack because of very similar pressure. I'd had 13 days in bed with the mother of all migraines and I keep saying that it was muscular but they admitted me, cannula inserted, monitors on etc etc. After a full day of tests all was well and I managed to escape. They kept repeating that women present with heart attacks very differently to the classic image we associate with them.

I've always managed stress well, when times are trying I go into a 'right let's get this sorted' roll up the sleeves sort of mode, but who knows what affect it's having on my heart. Externally I look completely unruffled. This is a much calmer stage in my life too, so I'm not experiencing the previous, juggling career and kids and home and nannies and husbands and PTAs etc etc. In comparison to all of that this is very much a walk in the park. However, who knows. I need to wait to find out if and what they find and get it sorted.

Thank you, I really appreciate your kindness x
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Machair

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Re: Mucus and Staining /Spotting
« Reply #543 on: January 24, 2017, 06:16:00 PM »

Thank you Sparkle sounds like I am about a year behind you!
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Elizabethrose

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« Reply #544 on: January 24, 2017, 06:25:54 PM »

Honestly Machair you could stop right now, never have a period again! It's impossible to tell I'm sure of it. I got to a stage after about 10 years in peri when I just thought, 'what the heck, forget trying to anticipate the end'. After that I just noted what was happening so I knew WHY it was happening and it actually made me feel better. This is despite the fact that I've had the longest frigging perimenopause in living history! OK I might be exaggerating a little here, I'm sure there must be other freaks like me out there  ;) (Sorry ladies, 'special ladies' not freaks!) x
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nearly50

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« Reply #545 on: January 24, 2017, 08:37:09 PM »

Well if it normally 1.5 to 2.3 years from 90 day gap til final period, you must all be very close to the end. Here's hoping. Last 20 suppised to be spaced out?

Hope ETT goes well ER, hopefully it is just a weird rhythm they want to check. One thing after another!
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Machair

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Re: Mucus and Staining /Spotting
« Reply #546 on: January 24, 2017, 09:06:02 PM »

 Thank you nearly50 for that insight. That 2.3 years would be Sept 2016 for me - no good as I am well past that! How does this prediction fit with you ER and Sparkle?
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nearly50

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Re: Mucus and Staining /Spotting
« Reply #547 on: January 24, 2017, 09:17:24 PM »

Thank you nearly50 for that insight. That 2.3 years would be Sept 2016 for me - no good as I am well past that! How does this prediction fit with you ER and Sparkle?

Hopefully means you're nearly there though. Also says 5-8 years from 7 day change between cycles. It'd be September 18 the earliest for me, it'll be a distant memory for you all by then  :)
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Elizabethrose

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Re: Mucus and Staining /Spotting
« Reply #548 on: January 24, 2017, 09:28:05 PM »

Haha, don't ask for mine, I sure as heck won't fit any norm!!

My first 90 day gap started two months AFTER my very last ovulation (so far I hasten to add!). Then had 5 anovulatory bleeds in the next 11 months. The only conclusion I've made is that the 1-2 year period after the final menstrual period when hormonal upheaval continues, well I just completed that, and carried on bleeding right through it simply because the oestrogen surges were so far off the Richter scale that the endometrium built and shed. Think I've said it before - ovaries like footballs!

As my husband says on a fairly regular basis, firstly someone would pay good money for my medical notes, especially if they are studying freaky women,  8) then secondly I will end up pickled on a glass shelf in some dusty lab somewhere!!

nearly50 thanks for your good wishes x

Haha, just read your latest post nearly50 , my change of 7+ and - days was when I was 40, 17 years ago.  :parti:
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Machair

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Re: Mucus and Staining /Spotting
« Reply #549 on: January 24, 2017, 09:42:52 PM »

7 years for me would make me 58 - might just make that one!
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nearly50

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Re: Mucus and Staining /Spotting
« Reply #550 on: January 24, 2017, 09:45:42 PM »



Haha, just read your latest post nearly50 , my change of 7+ and - days was when I was 40, 17 years ago.  :parti:

Oh lord, it really has been a long haul for you! Pity you can't get the opposite of HRT and get rid of all that oestrogen - you've needed Hormone Removal Treatment!

sparkle, I always go with the closer dater, only way to keep sane!
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Machair

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Re: Mucus and Staining /Spotting
« Reply #551 on: January 25, 2017, 08:07:02 AM »

nearly50 you are so right. This is why I am not sure HRT is right for all ladies in their early 50s, as some of us make too much of our own already and we don't need more- in face it could be dangerous. I think GPs need to make sure ladies have symptoms suggestive of low oestrogen such as vaginal dryness and severe sweats before they rush into giving systemic HRT to all ladies too soon, when maybe other treatments would be better. It is so difficult for them in a rushed appointment to ask the right questions, but not all women are short of oestrogen during peri until the late stages. You may notice that Sparkle and I don't really have hot flushes yet but we are hot sometimes, many of my friends were drenched in their forties and had to change sheets in the night. We are all so different. Some women are regular in their cycle at 53 when others are finished at 48, it is weird but true!
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Elizabethrose

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« Reply #552 on: January 25, 2017, 09:07:05 AM »

Can't agree more girls. HRT was an absolute nightmare for me and it was being carefully managed by two very well considered specialists. All attempts to supplement or suppress my own cycle resulted in unmanageable side-effects and sent me into a spin of constant migraine. Even after it was stopped it took a long time to leave my system and then the migraines reduced to about 24 a month. I regularly had very short cycles, so in some calendar months I had two bleeds. Those months were torturous.

I sometimes hear women being castigated for not choosing to take HRT, often by others who are evangelical about it. Whilst it is a God's send to some women, it's an absolute curse for others. Even small changes in dosage can send you into a tail spin. We are all different and it is enormously helpful for docs to see a record of symptoms and cycles before they start treating a patient. I was made to keep records by three separate docs, and interestingly the most detailed ones by the Panay team. I've said it many times before, my body is like litmus paper, but not all women can map their changes. These notes tell a very clear story and are something solid to work with. I have had to walk a tight rope with medication, fiercely controlling dosage so as to prevent Medication Overuse Headache when all meds would have to be removed. Detailed records are a necessity!

Now that my own oestrogen levels appear to have crashed, I'll have to very carefully watch the effects of this. Almost immediately, the vaginal dryness became an issue, and whilst apprehensive about the Vagifem, it does appear to be doing it's job. Irrespective of what I read though, there is most definitely some systemic absorption of oestradiol from Vagifem, I can feel it, though I suspect that as the vaginal tissues are further primed that this may be reduced. xx
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nearly50

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Re: Mucus and Staining /Spotting
« Reply #553 on: January 25, 2017, 09:10:42 AM »

There is an assumption that everyone has low oestrogen, isn't there? I really like this forum but have seen a couple of quite strident messages saying 'you really should be taking HRT' when it really doesn't seem the perfect solution for everyone.

I hate taking medication, I never react well to it and prefer knowing what my body's doing rather than covering it up. I know that's weird, but at least I know my burning neck and tingling hands are down to my hormones, and not my reaction to something I've taken. My perfect 2017 would be one where I do not even speak to a GP!
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Elizabethrose

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Re: Mucus and Staining /Spotting
« Reply #554 on: January 25, 2017, 09:25:58 AM »

I absolutely agree nearly50, I would always say to women, look at your cycle, analyse your symptoms, for goodness sake keep a record to map it. I have read many papers, been given access to stuff not readily available, and yet the problem of too much oestrogen in peri is rarely a conclusion even when the evidence is screaming out in study results. My oestrogen levels have been through the roof through peri.

As far as advice is concerned I sometimes shy away from coming forwards on here. My experience of peri and migraine has been awful and I sometimes see women who are starting out on this journey, reacting like me and seemingly struggling in the same way. I thank goodness that I didn't know what I had ahead, I may not have managed so well if I'd known, and therefore I don't want to enlighten them.
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