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mac:
Hi ladies

I'm not sure where to start with this as I am so confused and feeling very sad.  As you know I stopped my HRT on the 16th May thinking I was worse on it.  That was because I started having severe migranes and floaters and constant loose stools, more so when i changed to patches, I also at times had underlying anxiety but i could cope with that.  When my last bloods showed a change in my thyroxine levels i was told to increase my thyroxine to 150mcg. OMG did i feel ill.  Agitated, going to the toliet constantly did'nt know which way to turn.  I blamed the hrt patch, which i possibly shouldn't have and took it off.  When i went back to the GP (unfortunately not the one I usually see who is very supportive) she said they had made a mistake and i shouldn't have been told to increase my thyroxine dose!!!!  She feels i am extremely sensitive to medicines at the moment.
Since stopping the HRT and reducing my thyroxine to what it was 125mcg I am having more bad days than good.
They're unwilling to take further bloods to check my hormones until they are sure that the oestrogen i was taking is out of my system and they have said that could take 2 weeks.
Yesterday had a good day but today really bad with anxiety and have had to take propanalol, which the GP gave me for anxiety, I have been prescribed 40mg 3 times a day but have only had to take it once since being prescribed it as I am trying to cope, I cut them in half as well as i am to scared to take the 40.
So now i don't know what to do the GP I saw said they wouldn't consider HRT again for me because of my symptoms but i know they'll try AD's.

I have also read that if your on patches and taking thyroxine, the oestrogen does'nt allow the thyroxine to convert properly?  have you ladies heard of this, and that you should take hrt tabs only.

The doc also said i that i did not need to take the propanalol all the time but as i needed it???

My mood is all over the palce, with my poor daughter commenting that i should be back on the patches!! I feel so guilty. :(

I have now signed myself off work as I am not really coping.  Night time and morning time seem to be worst.
I feel as if I am about to start a period but nothing so far :'(

I think if i could control the anxiety and sadness i could cope better with all the other symtoms.

Mac

Bette:
Hi Mac
First of all, have a   :hug: - it sounds as if you need it. This is from the menu on the left (no mention fo which type of HRT is best):-
Thyroid disease
Hyperthyroidism, due to either overactive thyroid gland or over-replacement of thyroxine in under active thyroid disease, leads to an increased risk of osteoporosis due to excess bone loss. Consideration should therefore be given to screening for osteoporosis in postmenopausal women who have a history of hyperthyroidism and offering bone protective measures. HRT does not worsen thyroid disease and in fact may be particularly helpful because of the bone protective effect. However, patients taking thyroxine should be monitored by having thyroid function rechecked 3 months after starting HRT since the thyroxine dose may need to be adjusted. Similarly, thyroxine requirements may alter if HRT is stopped and thyroid function should be rechecked 3 months after stopping HRT.
There are several ladies on here on both thyroxine and HRT, so hopefully they'll be along to advise you. It's very confusing and annoying when you get conflicting advice from different gps; you may well find that your usual gp will be happy for you to try HRT again if that's what you want.
Bette x

Lucky Stone:
There's a lot here I can't comment on Mac but I am sure someone else will be along to help. What I want to say is not to worry too much about the propanolol, which I also was given by my doc. I had it in 10mg tablets and was told to take up to 40mg three times a day as and when needed and I used to vary the dose although I'm not sure I ever took the maximum. But I think I came close. There's a school of thought that says that 'as and when' doesn't work but as it is given to people nervous about going on stage (actors and musicians) I can't see that can be true. It sort of helped me, it slows your heart down and made me a bit calmer, although too much can make you dopey and a bit cold in the winter. I also tried the slow release ones which actually have 180mg in them but I didn't get along with those as they made me feel really strange.

I'm sorry you are having such a rough time and you really shouldn't feel guilty, although us women do, don't we? I think the anxiety symptoms are the worst part of this meno lark, and although mine are better than they were (I am on HRT), I do have not so good days (like today, actually). I'm hoping that time will resolve things and that sometime in the future, I will be back to my 'old self' or indeed a 'new self' - one that doesn't have to fight off the panic in the supermarket and can cope with a shop full of demanding customers.  :P

Anyway, this posting is more about saying 'chin up', you are far from alone, us girls must stick together and I am sending you some hugs, although as I can't remember how to do that on here, they will have to be virtual ones. ::) I see while I have been typing this, Bette has been on (hello Bette) - and she can do the hugs  :D :D

mac:
Hi Bette
Thank you.  I'm now in floods of tears :(
This is so hard, i think its even worst today because hubby is on duty tonight.

Mac

Bette:
Let it out, I howled my eyes out all day the other day when OH had gone away and Mum was in hospital.  :'( Felt awful at the time but I'm sure that it helped.
I'd agree with Lucky Stone (hi there!  :) ) that it's worth trying the propanolol.
Try to do something to keep your mind occupied; watch tv, work your way through the "Funnies" on here, catch up on threads you haven't read and maybe post a few things. Remember that you're not alone in all this.  :bighug:
Bette x

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